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Dick Vitale on the BCS

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I've got a better idea, Dick. Football should expand to a 30 game season like basketball. Play several preseason tournaments to decide the top 25 and the real pecking order. Have the Big Ten and ACC play 11 games against each other on week nights to drum up huge ratings. Then at the end of the meaniningless regular season, have every conference play a full tournament to decide the "real" conference champ.

And then, if there are any players still walking after those 40 some odd games, hold a national championship tournament to decide a true national champion.

Great idea.:crazy:
 
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Jeffcat;674348; said:
he has mentioned this same shat before on espn. he was asking why the little guys like the gonzagas and oral roberts never knock off the ohio states and michigans........well DICK it might because they either are A: too small to have a football team or B: nowhere remotely close to being DIA. vitale is the biggest moron in the sports world today and that speaks volumes in itself. and just to mention it since when is gonzaga a little guy in the NCAA bball world? DICK comes in here during the early season talking about his MASSIVE upsets like oral roberts over kansas even though oral roberts made the NCAA tourney last year......please
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What Dick fails to realize is that you can win in basketball with two good players. Give me Kobe and Shaq and a bunch of role players who can at least dress themselves and we're on the way to the finals. A football team with two good players isn't much. Vanderbilt had one of the best players in the SEC last year and enjoyed a historic season. They went 5-6. Indiana had Antwaan Randel El once. They usually went 2-9. Or 4-7 in a good year.

A mid major still needs 22 guys to compete, and they're just not going to get it. What Dick has missed is that the mid majors in CFB actually don't upset the big dogs very often. Fresno St? They've *almost* beaten anyone, anywhere, anytime. But actually haven't yet. Boise? Didn't they get smoked in Athens against Georgia last year? Marshall? Why was it everytime Marshall made a run they got beat down on Thursday night by somebody like Virginia Tech?

Sure, NIU has upset Maryland before, but it's not like the Terps were competing for championships either. Cincinnati once beat Wisconsin. The Badgers weren't competing for anything.

And lastly, for all the criticism the college football system takes, Dick has failed to recognize that the Gonzagas and Oral Roberts don't actually win the whole thing in basketball, so it was never really equitable to begin with -- it was all just a glitzy dog and pony show that eventually pitted a team like North Carolina against a team like Illinois or Florida against UCLA anyway, and we all knew those were the two best teams four months beforehand!

What does the NCAA basketball tournament really prove? That Gonzaga can win three games against middling teams that were already ranked below them before getting bounced in the Elite Eight?
 
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About the only thing he said that made any sense is that there's no chance for a team in a little conference to get to the big game. However, the level of talent in College football for major programs normally completely overpowers the talent from the lower conferences. Granted there's a 1-2 player exception at times, but overall...
 
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Why are folks so afraid to make subjective judgements about team quality?

I have argued since the start of the season that the Big East was a joke. But suddenly a scheduling quirk gave them 3 teams at 9-0 and we had to give one of them have a shot at the title. Well guess what, Rutgers is a joke, WVU is vastly overrated and Louisville is at best a top 10-12 team. That really didn't need to be proven on the field. By the same token anybody who needs to see Boise St lose on the field to be convinced they don't belong lacks a basic sense of the game (any team that does not have at least two games on its schedule with teams from BCS conferences simply has no case).

When folks argue there is all this support for playoffs it is like the argument that most Americans are Christians. Of course they are - until you try to define what that means. Then everybody is different. There is nothing resembling consensus on what a playoff should look like and most of the options would harm the game as we know it.

Go ahead and make a rule that any undefeated 1A team qualfies for a playoff and watch what happens to non-conf schedules. Set up a playoff system that guarnatees one loss teams from major conferences get in and see how long it is before OSU plays Texas again.

The game ain't broke. Don't break it.
 
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Yeah, those advance schedules where have to know how good your opponent is going to be in 5 years. Yeah, those advance schedules where the big schools duck the dangerous little schools.

According to that logic, someone should call Boise St. and tell them to schedule USC, Michigan and Florida for 2011 now... as if all, or any, of those teams would do it.
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there are 10-15 teams you could set up in the future knowing that they are going to be good teams. oregon state isn't one of them. the 12 game season gives these schools ample opportunity to play giant killer.
 
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DaddyBigBucks;674410; said:
This makes three threads for squabbling about playoffs. Yea!
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Right. So what should we do, conduct a poll ranking the "we should have a playoff" threads to determine which will be BP's official one, or should we maybe seed the threads and have them have a playoff?
 
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Bucky Katt;674411; said:
Does your Differential Analysis give any indication as to which of the three is the best? :p
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There are maybe 6 people on BP that appreciate my differential analysis posts, and I've only seen one of them post in this thread. They're having so much fun arguing, I'd hate to ruin it with something no one cares about. :wink:

OSUsushichic;674415; said:
Feel free to merge. I didn't know where else to put it.
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I think a new thread was in order, but somehow we didn't stay on topic.

So how about that Dick Vitale, huh? He even thinks that Duke-NC is a bigger rivalry than The Game.
 
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I used to really like college (and pro, for that matter) basketball, but this douche Vitale is one of the things that finally made me sick of it. The truth is that I just don't care. There are so many games (preseason, early out of conference, conference, conference tournament, and OMG The Big Dance) on so many stations involving so many teams that I'm way over saturated. I don't even read conference standings in the paper any more, much less fill out a tournament bracket so I can see how I stack up against the IT guy and the secretary who's never even seen a basketball game for March Madness. JHFCOABGDC, is there a more hyped sport with less substance anywhere?

Of course, sports are subjective and I don't begrudge anyone college basketball, if that's his/her thing, but goddamn, shut the fuck up, Vitale.
 
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tsteele316;674339; said:
if they want to dance with the big boys, they should sack up and schedule one in a OOC game.
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Good luck getting one of those "big boys" to sack up. It's simply not a winning proposition for them in most cases. If a team like USC beats Boise State... so what? They're Boise State, USC's supposed to beat them. Heaven forbid they actually lose to that team - that's a season breaker. You can't recover from losing to Boise State like you can losing to a Pac-10 team. This argument goes for other big boys too - including OSU. I have not doubt that the Buckeyes could beat Boise State anytime, anyplace. I still would want no part of them being on the schedule.
 
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Dryden;674414; said:
Right. So what should we do, conduct a poll ranking the "we should have a playoff" threads to determine which will be BP's official one, or should we maybe seed the threads and have them have a playoff?
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I say we let the computers sort it out.

RugbyBuck;674424; said:
I used to really like college (and pro, for that matter) basketball, but this douche Vitale is one of the things that finally made me sick of it. The truth is that I just don't care. There are so many games (preseason, early out of conference, conference, conference tournament, and OMG The Big Dance) on so many stations involving so many teams that I'm way over saturated. I don't even read conference standings in the paper any more, much less fill out a tournament bracket so I can see how I stack up against the IT guy and the secretary who's never even seen a basketball game for March Madness. JHFCOABGDC, is there a more hyped sport with less substance anywhere?

Of course, sports are subjective and I don't begrudge anyone college basketball, if that's his/her thing, but goddamn, shut the fuck up, Vitale.
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I agree 100%
 
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