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Declaring For The 2014 NFL Draft

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If any of these kids are basing their decision about whether to go pro on what the McShay's and Kiper's of the world are saying then they're idiots and deserve what they get. They're even dumber if they're putting stock into preseason mock drafts. The only thing they should be listening to is the draft grade that the NFL gives them when they're contemplating leaving early. They also need to realize if the NFL gives them say, a 4th round grade, that it's no guarantee you're getting drafted.
 
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Buckeye Nut said:
If any of these kids are basing their decision about whether to go pro on what the McShay's and Kiper's of the world are saying then they're idiots and deserve what they get. They're even dumber if they're putting stock into preseason mock drafts. The only thing they should be listening to is the draft grade that the NFL gives them when they're contemplating leaving early. They also need to realize if the NFL gives them say, a 4th round grade, that it's no guarantee you're getting drafted.
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Also you probably can throw in the unscrupulous agents that make these underclassmen unrealistic promises/expectations to get these kids to sign with them.
 
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Buckeye Nut said:
If any of these kids are basing their decision about whether to go pro on what the McShay's and Kiper's of the world are saying then they're idiots and deserve what they get. They're even dumber if they're putting stock into preseason mock drafts. The only thing they should be listening to is the draft grade that the NFL gives them when they're contemplating leaving early. They also need to realize if the NFL gives them say, a 4th round grade, that it's no guarantee you're getting drafted.
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Kiper was right about one thing. Damn you Trev.



Gotta give it to Buddy. "His track record is better than Tobin's."

Where's Mel? Still doin the Draft stuff.

Where's Tobin? Lord knows.
 
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When an URM or (insert big time program name here) 'checks out' for a player where they might be drafted, do they go to a pro scout or two, coach, or is there an NFL 'department' that makes a 'few calls'? I know that Tress and UFM do/did this, pretty sure Woody never, just to see whether their players would be better off going now, or staying around a year more. Some of these kids (leave early, go undrafted) apparently got some bad intell, or were leaving a 'bad' situation at their school (who knows what) that made them want to go the 'pay for play' league. Anyone clearing away the fog will be rewarded with greenies ----errrr, 'like' recognition. Go Bucks.
 
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New draft evaluation guidelines may see NFL advise underclassmen to stay in school

The NFL Draft this past spring saw a record number of underclassmen declare to be eligible to be drafted. More often than not, underclassmen were left at the mercy of the undrafted free agent pool. A rising number of underclassmen leaving school early for a shot at the NFL has been a growing concern on both sides of the football world, college and pro, and now the NFL is looking to find a way to discourage underclassmen from making a bad decision.

The NFL will cut down on the number of underclassmen who will receive a draft evaluation for a draft. Under the new guidelines, no more than five underclassmen per school will receive an evaluation. A total of 98 underclassmen declared for the 2014 NFL Draft and 37 of those players went undrafted.

According to the Associated Press, Troy Vincent (a former Wisconsin Badger and the NFL’s head of football operations) says underclassmen will be advised on their potential to be drafted in either of the first two rounds of the upcoming draft. Previously players were given a draft evaluation up to three rounds. Players may also be advised to stay in school. That would be a win-win for the NFL and college football if agents do not interfere with the decision-making. Advising players clearly not worthy of an early draft pick to stay in school allows those players an opportunity to get better while playing a key role in the college program. At the same time those players would theoretically become better NFL prospects, capable of making an impact or finding a role on an NFL roster faster.

Entire article: http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsport...e-nfl-advise-underclassmen-to-stay-in-school/
 
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MaxBuck said:
And the NCAA refuses to allow those young men to return to their teams, which tells you all you need to know about the organization's concern for student-athletes.
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And of those 61 that did get drafted many won't make the final cut.

However, there becomes a couple sticking points here:

1) Many have hired an agent; and taken advance payments and/or received $$$ for endorsements, autographs, or other activities.

2) Many have dropped out of school to get ready for the combine and draft. They might not have enough credits to be academically eligible to play football for the school.

I will say that if the player doesn't hire an agent, doesn't take any $$$, does not report to a NFL team training camp, is still academically eligible, and does not get drafted (or just doesn't like his draft position); he should be able to return to the school and play out his remaining eligibility.
 
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You let players declare but then return to college if they don't get drafted and you'll see triple the amount of kids declaring.

It sucks for the ones who don't get drafted, but the information is out there for them to make the right decision. In a business that pays this much...there are going to be some cautionary tales.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
You let players declare but then return to college if they don't get drafted and you'll see triple the amount of kids declaring.

It sucks for the ones who don't get drafted, but the information is out there for them to make the right decision. In a business that pays this much...there are going to be some cautionary tales.
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So what's the reason for not allowing kids to return? Especially if they haven't yet accepted a penny to play, in which case they remain complete amateurs. So what if three times the number of kids declare? What would be the problem with that? Do we tell engineering graduates that they may interview with only one company on career day?

The idea that there are "cautionary tales" that eliminate options for kids who are given bad advice, or just have stars in their eyes, speaks to a system that has plenty of money for coaches and administrators yet has no compunction about kicking kids to the curb. I hope the NCAA falls into the sea.
 
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MaxBuck said:
OK, let's say they need to pay back any advances they receive (and for projected third-day picks, that won't amount to much). What's the real problem with that?
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The training facility costs 10-20k. That's just for the workouts, let alone the airfare, NFL expenses and living expenses.

Where are they going to get that kind of money? Boosters?

And before considering repaying it, who is going to float this money to the same kid 2-3 years in a row?
 
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There 3rd year college students. Calling them kids is a stretch. If they go to a good school they will get better advice on how to go. If I drop out of college to get a job and realize it's not cracked up to be I will loose my scholly. What's the diff?
 
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MaxBuck said:
So what's the reason for not allowing kids to return? Especially if they haven't yet accepted a penny to play, in which case they remain complete amateurs. So what if three times the number of kids declare? What would be the problem with that? Do we tell engineering graduates that they may interview with only one company on career day?

The idea that there are "cautionary tales" that eliminate options for kids who are given bad advice, or just have stars in their eyes, speaks to a system that has plenty of money for coaches and administrators yet has no compunction about kicking kids to the curb. I hope the NCAA falls into the sea.
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There is a hard limit of 85 players on scholarship. In January, 5 players from a school declare. In February the school signs enough new players to get to the 85 man limit. In March 4 of those 5 want to come back. Unless you're the SEC (who would just cut the weakest players on the roster), you now have a serious numbers problem. This is enough of a reason not to let them come back, not to mention the problems Josh, Mike, ScriptOhio and others have pointed out.
 
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