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DE Mike Vrabel (All B1G, All American, All Pro, Super Bowl Champ, NFL HC of Year, HC New England Patriots)

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billmac91 said:
I disagree…..Vrabel low-key insulted Treyveon….he said he needs to educate himself on “inclusivity”.

And this is where Vrabel now loses tons of credibility….bc how is he going to tell a player to educate themselves on inclusivity when the player will just come back with “educate yourself on marriage”.
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If people quit moralizing everything they could just have a grown up conversation.
 
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billmac91 said:
I disagree…..Vrabel low-key insulted Treyveon….he said he needs to educate himself on “inclusivity”.

And this is where Vrabel now loses tons of credibility….bc how is he going to tell a player to educate themselves on inclusivity when the player will just come back with “educate yourself on marriage”.
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Because those two things have nothing to do with each other?
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
Because those two things have nothing to do with each other?
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No, they do. Especially when you come at it with a 'faith backed' approach.

I'm positive Trey hasn't been a shining example of Christianity (I was raised in just this environment. Athletics+baptist church+ football) Just as Vrabes hasn't been a shining example of morality with potential infidelity.

But people love looking to others hearts before their own.

Truth be told, both of our Buckeyes, like 75% of most people, are probably full of shit.
 
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It’s just my opinion…..I get it.

Russini has now resigned from her job while Vrabel marches on. I guess it probably impacts her more as a journalist…..the impropriety of it all makes her look terrible.

On the Treyveon situation though……I don’t think Vrabel is now incapable of giving advice or being a team leader…it’s more nuanced though, IMO. He loses credibility in the locker-room when he’s out making shitty decisions.

Again, I’m a huge Vrabel fan…..but he does dumb shit at times and this is the latest occurrence. For those who’ve forgotten, Google “Mike Vrabel snack bar arrest”.
 
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I'm willing to bet that many people on this board have either participated, or come damn close to participating, in many of the moral behaviors discussed. I think the problem arises when people put sports people on a pedestal and then expect them to act according to the moral compass that they think people on that pedestal should follow. I want to be clear...Vrabel's behavior suggests that he does not interpret the importance of several values in the same way as many people here do...and further that he is going down a path that will lead ultimately to some serious issues in his life. If this is true, it will probably affect his performance as a coach, at least for a period of time.

We know what wins in the end, almost all of the time.
 
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Steve19 said:
I'm willing to bet that many people on this board have either participated, or come damn close to participating, in many of the moral behaviors discussed. I think the problem arises when people put sports people on a pedestal and then expect them to act according to the moral compass that they think people on that pedestal should follow. I want to be clear...Vrabel's behavior suggests that he does not interpret the importance of several values in the same way as many people here do...and further that he is going down a path that will lead ultimately to some serious issues in his life. If this is true, it will probably affect his performance as a coach, at least for a period of time.

We know what wins in the end, almost all of the time.
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Currently undefeated, but this one seems to be on the ropes.
 
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