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DB Dustin Fox (National Champion)

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MililaniBuckeye said:
The only times I can ever recall him getting beat deep were the two passes to Edwards in The Game this past season. He just didn't look sharp that game...not sure if he was dinged up, ill, or just had a bad game.
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Fox pulled his grion before the Purdue game. Probably affected his performance during The Game as well.
 
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during the game, the catch where edwards beat him deep you could clearly see Fox thinking he had saftey help over the top but it wasn't there. I remeber Fox pulling up a little knowing Edwards was behind him and then seeing no help, so Fox kicked it into gear to try and get the pass interference but it was too late. I'm pretty sure it was blown coverage.
 
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AKAKBUCK said:
One of the Illinois guys got behind him a couple times in '02 but he was plying with a bad hammy or ankle, I think.
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brandon lloyd is the "guy" you are referring to second team all american and two time all b10 player.

fox is a helluva player in space....something that cannot be taught. where he projects at the next level depends on the defensive scheme of who drafts him.

personally he will be a helluva nickel back in any case saftey/corner.
 
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Posting this here as the site requires registration and I know how annoying this can be (3 yards posted this in the recent news)

http://www.cantonrep.com/index.php?Category=17&ID=210621&r=4
Fox impresses with Combine numbers
Wednesday, March 2, 2005 By TODD PORTER Repository sports writer
As cameras from the NFL Network stared him down, Dustin Fox knew his impressionable moment had arrived.

It wasn’t put-up-or-shut-up time before he ran a 40-yard dash for NFL teams Tuesday.

It was more.

It was put-up-or-put-down time.

Fox, a four-year letterman and three-year starter at Ohio State, put up one of the best numbers for a safety at the NFL Scouting Combine. The 5-foot-10, 190-pound GlenOak High graduate ran 4.44 and 4.46 40-yard times.

It was the fastest time for a safety in Fox’s group of 25 draft prospects.

Prior to running the blazing 40-yard time, Fox dazzled coaches, scouts and general managers with a 431⁄2-inch vertical jump. That would have been a record the best at last year’s combine. It was the second-best vertical this year behind a 46-inch jump.

“I was a little bit nervous because when you stop to think about it, every head coach in the NFL has a clock on you and is watching real close ... how can’t you be nervous?” said Fox, who seemed relaxed and comfortable in the days before his physical testing. “But it’s like a track meet. Once you get in the blocks, you just focus and you don’t realize it.

“The nerves don’t hit you until the night before. (Monday) night I had a hard time falling asleep. My palms were sweaty. It’s like Christmas Eve when you’re a kid. I woke up in the morning, and I was focused. It was a good experience to go through something like that.”

It is likely that Fox went from being a fourth- or fifth-round pick to a first-day (Rounds 1 through 3) selection. Fox has signed with Neil Cornrich of Cleveland, one of the more respected NFL agents who sees his client’s stock is rising.

“He helped himself tremendously,” Cornich said. “His performance was spectacular. He opened a lot of eyes and confirmed what the people at Ohio State have known for a number of years: He’s a world-class athlete with world-class character.”

Cornrich also represents Indianapolis safety Bob Sanders. At 5-8, 205 pounds, Sanders had the best vertical jump at the combine last year (411⁄2 inches). The Colts selected Sanders in the second round.

But Cornich is a realist, too. He isn’t about to over-hype Fox. It would be impossible to quantify what Fox’s testing Tuesday did on 32 draft boards around the league.

“I feel very comfortable in saying that Dustin helped himself as much as any player could help himself based on the 40 and vertical jump,” Cornrich said.

What most teams — at least the ones who know what to look for at the combine — do is get a total picture. The physical testing is one part. The medical exams are another (Fox’s are fine).

Maybe the biggest piece of the puzzle at the NFL’s largest job fair is the personal interview. Teams are permitted to spend 15 minutes in a one-on-one session. Fox interviewed with Colts Head Coach Tony Dungy. He talked with the Chiefs and the Rams.

“I got a good vibe from Kansas City here, and at the East-West Shrine Classic,” Fox said. “I got a good vibe from St. Louis. It’s hard to say because I don’t think that means a whole lot on draft day. I did well in the interviews and I didn’t hurt myself today. It put up solid numbers and hopefully impressed some people.”

This was his job interview. Like others seeking work out of college, he must wait for an offer. That won’t come until April 23 if his performance in Indianapolis left the kind of final impression people think it might.
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VprHis said:
I think he projects as a safety because of his ability to work in space, the fact that he's always been a very sure tackler, and some lingering concerns about his quickness.
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I don't agree with that last part. I think he has plenty of quicks. On the 2002 National Championship team, Dustin Fox was timed by the coaches as having the best 40 time on the ENTIRE team... and it that was back in '02!
 
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BuckTwenty said:
I don't agree with that last part. I think he has plenty of quicks. On the 2002 National Championship team, Dustin Fox was timed by the coaches as having the best 40 time on the ENTIRE team... and it that was back in '02!
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Quickness vs. speed is very subjective. A 40 doesn't really measure quickness as much as straight away speed. Dustin's main criticsm is that he doesn't have the hips for corner. Depending on the system, that may not matter. A lot teams use a similar zone blitz package as tOSU. Something that Dustin could thrive in. Not only in coverage, but in run support as well. Could be an Antoine Winfield type of corner. Not really a lockdown, but an incredible all around player.
 
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And please bear in mind that I, personally, am not questioning either his speed or his quicks. I'm merely saying that I believe there is somewhat of a perception out there that he's maybe not the most fleet of foot.
 
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Lloyd's height definitely played a role, but the fact that Dustin had a hip pointer in that game was IMO more responsible for his getting behind Dustin...

oh yeah... you also need to remember that Lloyd went out of bounds and then came back in to catch the ball TWICE in that game... the refs didn't call it either time... by the time Lloyd came back in bounds, Fox had correctly started to help the deep middle, which was why Lloyd was so open in the first place...
 
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What exactly does "plays well in space" mean?

To me it means that a player can cover an area well, and then when the ball is thrown to that area, gets to that place quickly for a tackle. But I'm not an expert and wanted to know more.
 
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oh yeah... you also need to remember that Lloyd went out of bounds and then came back in to catch the ball TWICE in that game... the refs didn't call it either time...
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There were a lot of calls that the refs did/did not make that day ... CK's touchdown that ended up being 3 points sticks out.

Illinois has had a lot of that in recent years -- every game against UM involves shoddy officiating.
 
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