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Cost of schollies, in-state vs OOS

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BB73

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Here's a grid from an Iowa site, that lists the number of football scholarships for each Big-10 squad, broken down by in-state vs. out-of-state for the years 2002-2005. The cost of those schollies for 2004-05 is also listed. I'm personally familiar with that NW tuition figure, my son goes there (thank goodness for financial aid).

To me the only real surprise is the fact that Penn St. gets twice as many out-of-state players as tOSU. tOSU's tuition is right in the middle of the Big-10 schools, although only Iowa and MSU cost less for out-of-state.

press-citizen.com

"By paying in-state tuition instead of out-of-state tuition for two-thirds of its football players on scholarship, Ohio State saves about $500,000 each year compared to most other Big Ten schools."

By the numbers
2002-2005 Big Ten football scholarships
School In-state Out-of-state

Illinois.............42 50
Indiana........... 21 72
Iowa.............. 23 60
Michigan......... 28 53
Michigan St..... 25 68
Minnesota....... 27 65
Northwestern.. 14 62
Ohio State.......57 24
Penn State..... 28 49
Purdue........... 24 72
Wisconsin....... 30 64

Big Ten tuition costs (2004-05)
School In-state Out-of-state

Illinois................ $7,944 $20,864
Indiana............... $6,777 $18,590
Iowa.................. $5,396 $16,048
Michigan............. $8,201 $26,027
Michigan St......... $6,999 $17,844
Minnesota........... $8,230 $19,860
Northwestern..... $30,085 (tuition same)
Ohio State.......... $7,542 $18,129
Penn State........ $10,856 $20,784
Purdue............... $6,092 $18,700
Wisconsin........... $5,862 $19,892
 
Great post BB73!

It's interesting to me that OSU is the only team in the Big Ten that has more in-state football players than out of state kids. That is a great testament to the High School Football programs in the state of Ohio.
 
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dav713 said:
Ohio State doesnt really save $500,000 each year. It's not as if oos kids cost more to be educated
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I think this was stated because the athletic departments actually pay the university the tuition for the athletic scholarships. So the savings are within the budget of tOSU's athletic department as compared to other Big-10 schools.
 
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BB73 said:
I think this was stated because the athletic departments actually pay the university the tuition for the athletic scholarships. So the savings are within the budget of tOSU's athletic department as compared to other Big-10 schools.
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I didn't know that. Either way it doesnt matter to OSU as a whole, but i guess it does matter to the athletic dept.
 
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dav,

OSU's athletic Dept. is a seperate entity than the university... they have to stand on their own two feet. All rev's are the AD, and all costs are the AD's...

If the AD runs in the red, the university will not bail them out... think of the AD as a totally seperate entity... the $500k savings for football can be spent on tuition for others sports...

I don't know of any other AD that is structured like OSU... most of the other AD's are actually part of the university's budget...
 
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Accounting Ledger only

The real cost to the school (and taxpayer) of a student in or out of state is the same. State schools just charge more for OOS because, in theory, the IS kid's parents have paid into the state tax system while the OOS kid's parents haven't.

The University isn't really saving any money.

C
 
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Tuition is higher for out of state... instead of the kid paying the tuition bill to the bursars office, the athletic department cuts a check to the bursars office... it most certainly does cost the athletic department more money for an oos recruit when compaired to an instate recruit...
 
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Definitely good for our AD, which runs with a huge budget deficit IIRC (much of that because of all of the construction in recent years)

And yes, they really do cut a check for the student's tuition, its not just an accounting trick
 
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I'm not convinced it isn't an accounting trick

ntd said:
And yes, they really do cut a check for the student's tuition, its not just an accounting trick
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Not that it matters that much, but if the OSU Athletic Department cuts a check to the Univerisity, how is that not anything but a ledger move? The AD is, for lack of a better expression, "a wholly owned subsidary" of OSU.

True, the ledger looks better for the AD, but equally and oppositely worse for the general fund. In the end, you add up the two anyway. The cost to the university is taking up 1/32 of a class, the room, and the board. The classroom chair doesn't know if the kid's ass is OOS or not. Now, if the AD is allowed to spend the "savings" on non-income producing assest, like, say buying the team fillet mignon instead of ribeye, that's different. In that case, it actually costs the university money instead of saving.

But I digress, and my whole post is stupid anyway. 39 days until kickoff, huh?
 
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Diver said:
The great statistic in that post was that you have a son who is a distinguished scholar, BB73. Northwestern is a great institution at which to matriculate. Congratulations.
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Thanks, Diver. The bad part is that whenever the topic of football comes up, I can no longer just say '1971', which had been our most recent loss to the purple guys.
 
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