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Columbus Smoking Ban

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buckeyebri said:
I'm okay with smoking in bars or bowling alleys, but the movement to eliminate smoking in restaurants I think is a good thing. Non smoking sections are a joke and I really believe most smokers could go an hour or two without a smoke while eating.
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How do you make the distinction? Is any bar that serves food considered a restaurant? Is any restaurant that has a bar, considered a bar? Is any bowling alley with a...j/k that one's pretty obvious.
 
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IronBuckI said:
How do you make the distinction? Is any bar that serves food considered a restaurant? Is any restaurant that has a bar, considered a bar? Is any bowling alley with a...j/k that one's pretty obvious.
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That is a fair question and one of the main sticking points in a law that trys to distinquish that. Maybe it would take defining the main business intent or source of income. I'm open to definitions...
 
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I honestly can't make up my mind on this subject. On one hand, you have the "infringement of rights" argument, but on the other, what's the difference between this and buying alcohol after 2 am? It's always a lot harder to take something away than it is to never have given it in the first place. Isn't it my "right" to buy a case of beer whenever the hell I want it? Yet nobody is bitching about that...(in C-bus, you cannot buy alcohol after 2 am).

The other thing to point out here is, this will effect businesses in C-bus. If smokers go out to eat, they will go to a restaurant that allows them to smoke. All that means in this situation is that the smoker will have to drive about 10 minutes to get something to eat. Gahanna, Dublin, Westerville, Arlington, Hilliard, Worthington, New Albany, Pickerington, etc., have not passed this law, and no matter where you live in Columbus, it is less than a 10 minute drive to one of these "suburbs" where smoking is not restricted. If you don't think that will effect the businesses in town, you're on crack.
 
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maybe us non-smokers should just go up to smokers and rip a gigantic fart right in their face as they munch on their dinner salad....maybe then the smokers will get an idea as to how annoying their smell is.....

Just make sure they're not in the process of lighting up when you do... :biggrin:
 
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DaytonBuck said:
How strictly would this rule be enforced? If some bar on campus wanted to look the other way and no one complained would they get the legal smack down?
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Yes. There is no such thing as looking the other way, when it comes to screwing the small businessman. Everywhere you go, there is at least one person that can't help but be offended by the actions of others. Usually those are the same people that feel that it's their duty to right this wrong doing.:roll2:
 
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buckeyebri said:
Property owners are constantly bombarded with laws that effect their use of their property (environmental) or increased taxes to support schools, librarys, zoos, etc. based on votes by the general citizenry. This would be okay if all voters were property owners, because then it would be a will of the majority, however not all voters are.
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This is exactly why I favor the abolishment of all property taxes, or at least have it where only those who own property can vote on such taxes. It is simply unjust in my opinion to allow people who will not pay the tax to impose it on others through their right to vote. This idea is probably too radical for most of you, but it is what I would consider fair.
 
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How strictly would this rule be enforced? If some bar on campus wanted to look the other way and no one complained would they get the legal smack down?
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Which brings up another point. Isn't the city in a HUGE budget Crunch.

What is the cost of enforcement going to be?
 
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Grandview would... I think I heard Gahanna probably won't... Westerville would... Worhtington.. on the Fence... Those are the only one I've heard about... but there will be holdouts in the suburbs.
 
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I'm all for this ban and wish they would jack up the tax to be $10 a pack too. I'm all for taxing anything that I don't use. I wouldn't mind seeing pot legalized and get taxed to death too.

I do like the fart idea, I might have to use that next time someone is smoking near me in a restaurant.
 
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Cigarettes are $8 a pack in NYC. Close to 10. . .

It would be hard to reorganize the economy, but I am a fan of taxing things we should want to curb and subsidizing things we want to encourage. Unfortunately, we tend to tax based on special interests (keeping taxes off, rather), precedent (income), or voter desires (not much gas tax).

Anyway, whatever.
 
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exhawg, if they legalized pot then taxed it, it wouldn't affect most of the 'heads I know. Maybe if they started taxing the garden department at Wally World...

They're going nuts up in Massachusetts over smoking bans too. I like an occasional Camel, but not when I'm eating. So I kinda see both sides. What's the big deal with going outside?
 
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