-
New here? Register here now for access to all the forums, download game torrents, private messages, polls, Sportsbook, etc. Plus, stay connected and follow BP on Instagram @buckeyeplanet and Facebook.
- Thread starter Oh8ch
- Start date
CBS
1/4
Veteran TV exec: Playoff of some kind will happen
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr valign="top"> <td width="10"> </td> <td>
</td></tr> </tbody> </table> [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] LOS ANGELES -- The network executive who helped form the Bowl Championship Series hinted that college football might be creeping toward a modest playoff system.
Loren Matthews, senior vice president of programming for ABC Sports, said "I think what you'll see in the future is something different than what you see now."
That could take many forms, he said, from the much-discussed "plus-one" format to an eight-team playoff.
"It could, certainly," said Matthews, who is retiring after Wednesday's Rose Bowl. "I don't think they needed to go to this one."
He was speaking of the new BCS double-hosting format that debuts a year from now. The Rose, Fiesta, Orange and Sugar will host their traditional games on or around Jan. 1 each year. But the championship game will be played in one of those venues a week later between the 1-2 teams in the BCS.
That means next year the Fiesta Bowl will be playing host to two games a week apart.
Because of existing contracts, the soonest changes could be made is five years from now.
In adopting double-hosting, commissioners left a lot of money on the table and arguably diluted their product. By separating four games from the championship game, Matthews said, the BCS could be killing buzz and momentum.
"The championship game will always be great. The question is how will those stand-alones do?" Matthew said.
Matthews proposed a "plus-one" format to conference commissioners in April 2004. That would have allowed two teams to be selected from the four winners of the four major bowls to play in a national championship game.
The deal would have been much more lucrative for schools. But Matthews was turned down, mainly by college presidents who are at least to make a show of holding the line on expansion of major-college sports.
"I'm looking at it from a TV and sports angle," he said. "The presidents are looking at it from not only economic but academic angles.
"I just think that the commissioners left to their own devices might come up with a different system."
Matthews has been involved in negotiating for ABC's exclusive rights to the BCS since 1998. ABC has retained the rights to the Rose Bowl through 2014. However, Fox will take over televising the Fiesta, Sugar and Orange beginning in 2007.
The BCS has been a ratings success but the volatile and controversial system has undermined its credibility.
"This year the BCS works, next year who knows?" Matthews said. "In order for this to really work you need two undefeated teams ...
"What are the odds you are going to get two undefeated teams every year? What if you have one or none? That probably will happen over the next four years. Then I don't know how you (tweak) the formula yet again."
[/FONT]
1/4
Veteran TV exec: Playoff of some kind will happen
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr valign="top"> <td width="10"> </td> <td>
</td></tr> </tbody> </table> [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] LOS ANGELES -- The network executive who helped form the Bowl Championship Series hinted that college football might be creeping toward a modest playoff system.
Loren Matthews, senior vice president of programming for ABC Sports, said "I think what you'll see in the future is something different than what you see now."
That could take many forms, he said, from the much-discussed "plus-one" format to an eight-team playoff.
"It could, certainly," said Matthews, who is retiring after Wednesday's Rose Bowl. "I don't think they needed to go to this one."
He was speaking of the new BCS double-hosting format that debuts a year from now. The Rose, Fiesta, Orange and Sugar will host their traditional games on or around Jan. 1 each year. But the championship game will be played in one of those venues a week later between the 1-2 teams in the BCS.
That means next year the Fiesta Bowl will be playing host to two games a week apart.
Because of existing contracts, the soonest changes could be made is five years from now.
In adopting double-hosting, commissioners left a lot of money on the table and arguably diluted their product. By separating four games from the championship game, Matthews said, the BCS could be killing buzz and momentum.
"The championship game will always be great. The question is how will those stand-alones do?" Matthew said.
Matthews proposed a "plus-one" format to conference commissioners in April 2004. That would have allowed two teams to be selected from the four winners of the four major bowls to play in a national championship game.
The deal would have been much more lucrative for schools. But Matthews was turned down, mainly by college presidents who are at least to make a show of holding the line on expansion of major-college sports.
"I'm looking at it from a TV and sports angle," he said. "The presidents are looking at it from not only economic but academic angles.
"I just think that the commissioners left to their own devices might come up with a different system."
Matthews has been involved in negotiating for ABC's exclusive rights to the BCS since 1998. ABC has retained the rights to the Rose Bowl through 2014. However, Fox will take over televising the Fiesta, Sugar and Orange beginning in 2007.
The BCS has been a ratings success but the volatile and controversial system has undermined its credibility.
"This year the BCS works, next year who knows?" Matthews said. "In order for this to really work you need two undefeated teams ...
"What are the odds you are going to get two undefeated teams every year? What if you have one or none? That probably will happen over the next four years. Then I don't know how you (tweak) the formula yet again."
[/FONT]
Upvote
0
rock454
All-American
One of the sports network websites (cnnSI, espn, foxsports...) was doing this scenario, but I can't remember which one. Last I saw it they had Ohio State matching up against USC. If anyone else has seen this could you post the link... I'm curious to see how they finished it out. They were actually doing a pretty objective job coming up with the game scenarios.
Upvote
0
I believe that ESPN has the one you're talking about.
I prefer this one though...
http://www.sportsline.com/spin/story/9136920
Upvote
0
martinss01
blissfully stupid
from the same idiots who brought you the genious of the conference championship game. ill bet penn state wouldn't have any issues with tOSU being picked to play usc for the nc this year (assuming usc beats texas). texas wouldn't have any issues with a rematch with tOSU for the nc. what if florida state edged penn state and got picked. what are the chances we buck fans would be ok with that?
why exactly does everyone on the planet think a single extra game will magically cure every possible scenario that could arrise in college football? why exactly, in a year where #1 and #2 couldn't be more clear, are we argueing over whether or not we need a bowl championship tournament? penn state, tOSU, florida state, and notre dame all have 1 thing in common. none of them have earned the right to play for an nc. why is this conscept so complex?
***rant mode off***
Upvote
0
DGADBTWSOM
Hall of Fame
Will there ever be a Playoff?
With recent upsets and the mess that is the ACC, how much longer does the BCS have before we go to a Playoff System if ever?
With recent upsets and the mess that is the ACC, how much longer does the BCS have before we go to a Playoff System if ever?
Upvote
0
Link
Cut the bull and have a Division I college football playoff
October 19, 2006
Auburn coach Tommy Tuberville wants a playoff.
Coincidentally, that emotional plea came before his Tigers team dropped its game against Arkansas. His point was that the Southeastern Conference is too tough for Auburn, once sitting at No. 3, to make the BCS National Championship Game.
I don't blame you, Tommy. I want one too. I think most people in America would love to see an NCAA Division I playoff system. (Except for a little old lady from Pasadena and members of bowl committees with their fashion-destroying blazers.)
But if you are from neither of those groups, imagine for one second a monthlong event that could equal or even surpass the drama and intensity of the NCAA's basketball tournament.
The one argument I've heard is every game in Division I football is a playoff game because for the top teams, losing means losing out on a shot at a national title, a spot in the conference championship game or a BCS bowl berth.
That argument is bull, and I can tell you why. I watched North Central College's Division III playoff run last season. The Cardinals lost one controversial game at Augustana when a blocked field goal was negated by a penalty and eventually led to a 20-17 win for the host Vikings. If Division III hadn't expanded its playoffs over the years, that one moment might have meant NCC was out. At the time, the Cardinals still weren't sure they were in even with their 8-1 record. Yeah, there was some certainty but there was also a shred of uncertainty when the team showed up at the Cress Creek Country Club for the announcement on ESPNews last November.
Division III teams deal with that all year. One loss can mean the end of the season, and two losses in a conference pretty much finishes a team off. NCC understood that this week when the Cardinals faced Elmhurst at home. Both teams were coming off losses last week. This week's game was nothing short of an eliminator.
I don't think it would be any different with a Division I playoff. There could be a few different bracket setups but a team would basically have to win its conference to assure a spot. That's a lot more drama than watching some school settle on a 7-5 season to go to the Independence Bowl.
To the good people of Shreveport, La., and Bossier City, La., Nothing wrong with the Independence Bowl. My alma mater, Missouri, beat South Carolina there last year. My brother's alma mater, Ole Miss, was there often enough that people from Oxford, Miss., started buying winter homes there.
But it would sure be a lot better to dream about making the Big Dance in college football. Could the Tigers grab a wild-card spot then take down Ohio State?
Divisions I-AA, II and III manage to hold a playoff. High schools do it. The NFL does it. So what makes Division I so special? I understand there's some fine tradition in the bowl games, but the Rose Bowl no longer features just the Big Ten and the Pac 10. The Big 12 champ doesn't go to the Orange Bowl. (Although I'm sure the students at Mizzou are still throwing oranges on the field before the start of the season.) There's already been change in college football.
Why not go all the way?
NIU's Garrett Wolfe running wild over Tuberville's Tigers?
That sure beats the Independence Bowl.
Cut the bull and have a Division I college football playoff
October 19, 2006
Auburn coach Tommy Tuberville wants a playoff.
Coincidentally, that emotional plea came before his Tigers team dropped its game against Arkansas. His point was that the Southeastern Conference is too tough for Auburn, once sitting at No. 3, to make the BCS National Championship Game.
I don't blame you, Tommy. I want one too. I think most people in America would love to see an NCAA Division I playoff system. (Except for a little old lady from Pasadena and members of bowl committees with their fashion-destroying blazers.)
But if you are from neither of those groups, imagine for one second a monthlong event that could equal or even surpass the drama and intensity of the NCAA's basketball tournament.
The one argument I've heard is every game in Division I football is a playoff game because for the top teams, losing means losing out on a shot at a national title, a spot in the conference championship game or a BCS bowl berth.
That argument is bull, and I can tell you why. I watched North Central College's Division III playoff run last season. The Cardinals lost one controversial game at Augustana when a blocked field goal was negated by a penalty and eventually led to a 20-17 win for the host Vikings. If Division III hadn't expanded its playoffs over the years, that one moment might have meant NCC was out. At the time, the Cardinals still weren't sure they were in even with their 8-1 record. Yeah, there was some certainty but there was also a shred of uncertainty when the team showed up at the Cress Creek Country Club for the announcement on ESPNews last November.
Division III teams deal with that all year. One loss can mean the end of the season, and two losses in a conference pretty much finishes a team off. NCC understood that this week when the Cardinals faced Elmhurst at home. Both teams were coming off losses last week. This week's game was nothing short of an eliminator.
I don't think it would be any different with a Division I playoff. There could be a few different bracket setups but a team would basically have to win its conference to assure a spot. That's a lot more drama than watching some school settle on a 7-5 season to go to the Independence Bowl.
To the good people of Shreveport, La., and Bossier City, La., Nothing wrong with the Independence Bowl. My alma mater, Missouri, beat South Carolina there last year. My brother's alma mater, Ole Miss, was there often enough that people from Oxford, Miss., started buying winter homes there.
But it would sure be a lot better to dream about making the Big Dance in college football. Could the Tigers grab a wild-card spot then take down Ohio State?
Divisions I-AA, II and III manage to hold a playoff. High schools do it. The NFL does it. So what makes Division I so special? I understand there's some fine tradition in the bowl games, but the Rose Bowl no longer features just the Big Ten and the Pac 10. The Big 12 champ doesn't go to the Orange Bowl. (Although I'm sure the students at Mizzou are still throwing oranges on the field before the start of the season.) There's already been change in college football.
Why not go all the way?
NIU's Garrett Wolfe running wild over Tuberville's Tigers?
That sure beats the Independence Bowl.
Upvote
0
Link
Indiana thinking end to bowl drought in sight
October 19, 2006
By Rusty Miller the associated press
Twelve years and four head coaches have gone away since Indiana last won more games than it lost. Pushed by a coach who has weathered brain surgery twice in nine months, and with a lineup stocked with guys barely old enough to shave, the Hoosiers think they're ready to make a bowl run.
After wins over Illinois and Iowa, the Hoosiers are 4-3 and 2-1 in the Big Ten heading into Saturday's game at No. 1 Ohio State.
The Hoosiers haven't played in the postseason since a trip to the Independence Bowl in 1993.
Terry Hoeppner, in his second year as head coach, has worked hard to discard the old, losing ways in Bloomington. He had a three-ton block of limestone, a remnant of Memorial Stadium's construction in 1960, placed near the field and the players and coaches touch "The Rock" before each home game.
"Championship teams have a special affection, a special trust, a special bond that we usually summarize as chemistry," he said. "We are developing this affection, this trust, this bond and it's tangible."
Now the Hoosiers have won back-to-back Big Ten games for the first time in five years and are 2-0 on the road for the first time in 13 seasons.
"The last two weeks we've had seniors selected as the scout team players of the week," he said. "To me, that's pretty significant. It's one of those thankless, young guy-type jobs and that's where the together thing really takes on meaning for me. That's where this bond, this trust and this chemistry comes from."
Indiana thinking end to bowl drought in sight
October 19, 2006
By Rusty Miller the associated press
Twelve years and four head coaches have gone away since Indiana last won more games than it lost. Pushed by a coach who has weathered brain surgery twice in nine months, and with a lineup stocked with guys barely old enough to shave, the Hoosiers think they're ready to make a bowl run.
After wins over Illinois and Iowa, the Hoosiers are 4-3 and 2-1 in the Big Ten heading into Saturday's game at No. 1 Ohio State.
The Hoosiers haven't played in the postseason since a trip to the Independence Bowl in 1993.
Terry Hoeppner, in his second year as head coach, has worked hard to discard the old, losing ways in Bloomington. He had a three-ton block of limestone, a remnant of Memorial Stadium's construction in 1960, placed near the field and the players and coaches touch "The Rock" before each home game.
"Championship teams have a special affection, a special trust, a special bond that we usually summarize as chemistry," he said. "We are developing this affection, this trust, this bond and it's tangible."
Now the Hoosiers have won back-to-back Big Ten games for the first time in five years and are 2-0 on the road for the first time in 13 seasons.
"The last two weeks we've had seniors selected as the scout team players of the week," he said. "To me, that's pretty significant. It's one of those thankless, young guy-type jobs and that's where the together thing really takes on meaning for me. That's where this bond, this trust and this chemistry comes from."
Upvote
0
Zurp
I have misplaced my pants.
DGADBTWSOM;636370; said:
Will there ever be a I-A playoff? I believe so. Yes.
Anytime soon? No flipping way. If Tommy Tuberville wants Auburn to win a playoff game, he's going to have to drop them down to I-AA and win that playoffs. Until then, cross your fingers, jump through the hoops that the BCS set up, and stop your whining.
Upvote
0