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Cleveland Browns Training Camp

NJ-Buckeye said:
can't disagree there BinMich... but did anyone else notice how often Hawk was assigned pass coverage on a WR yesterday? He was all over that #2...

No doubting Hawk's talent. I just have been pimping (I cannot believe I just typed that) Carp for awhile. He seems like a perfect fit for the 3-4 and that was before I realized he could play TE. Plus, I would love to see his intensity there with the Browns defense. They have had no emotional defensive leader since coming back last decade.
 
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Carp is only a 'secret' in the college ranks... the pros know all about him... several sites I have read state he has the absolute prototypical NFL LB attributes with outrageous speed.. I joined the Carp fan club years ago...
 
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BuckinMichigan said:
Give me Carpenter in Rd. 1 - No matter where he is. Let's grab Donte in Rd. 2.


Hey, I'd be happy if the Brownies got any of our D, but Donte's only a junior so he won't be in the draft for another year (praying he doesn't go early!). That being said, Carp & Hawk will both go in the first 15 picks without a doubt. Even Kiper admitted that.
 
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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD noWrap>NFL.com wire reports </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!-- T8801749 --><!-- Sesame Modified: 09/03/2005 14:41:00 --><!-- sversion: 2 $Updated: andrewt$ -->BEREA, Ohio (Sept. 3, 2005) -- Cleveland Browns defensive back Michael Jameson was suspended for the first four regular-season games without pay for violating the NFL's substance-abuse policy.
Jameson's suspension was announced when Browns first-year coach Romeo Crennel reduced his roster to the league-mandated 53 players.
Jameson, selected by the Browns in the sixth round of the 2001 draft, played in all 16 games last season. The 26-year-old has made one career start for Cleveland. He will be eligible to rejoin the roster Oct. 10.
Jameson will be allowed to attend team meetings and work out, but he can't practice with the team during his suspension. Crennel said the league changed a rule this season to allow suspended players to participate in some club functions.
Crennel kept 25 players who weren't on Cleveland's roster last year.
Among the players cut, the most surprising was offensive guard Enoch Demar, who made 11 starts last season. DeMar immediately dropped on the depth chart when the club signed free agents Cosey Coleman and Joe Andruzzi.
http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/CLE/8801749
 
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After clearing waivers, the Browns signed Brandon Rideau, along with tight end Paul Irons, linebacker Justin Kurpeikis, running back Sultan McCullough and defensive lineman J'Vonne Parker to the practice squad. All five players were with the team during training camp. The Browns can carry as many as eight players on the practice squad.
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what a great move .. to be able to keep Rideau, Irons and Sultan
 
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</TD><TD noWrap width=3></TD><TD vAlign=top>By Fred Greetham
Date: Sep 5, 2005

Monday in Berea, Head Coach Romeo Crennel officially named rookie Charlie Frye the Browns backup quarterback heading in to the 2005 season. Also, Nat Dorsey comes to town with a lot on his mind, notes on running backs, and Billy Miller looks forward to playing as early as next Sunday...
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Berea – Things just keep getting better and better for rookie Charlie Frye. Coach Romeo Crennel named the Willard and Akron alum the Browns backup quarterback.

“Charlie has stepped in and performed at this point more than Doug (Johnson) has,” Crennel said.

“The fact that he’s gone in and been able to move the team has been good,” he said. “He’s got pocket presence and has made plays.”

Frye had a good preseason as he was 34-of-50 for 348 yards. He had two touchdowns and one interception and a QB rating of 92.8.

Frye is undaunted by the fact he is only one play away from being in Sunday’s game against the Bengals.

“It doesn’t change my thinking at all,” Frye said. “I always prepare like I’m going to play and expect to do well.”

Crennel said Frye’s performance against Chicago helped Crennel make the final decision. Frye was 12-of-14 against the Bears.

“The Chicago game did a lot for him,” Crennel said. “He was thrown in there and he put up some good numbers. It was a road game and in a hostile environment. I thought that was impressive.”

Crennel said Johnson gives the Browns insurance as the third quarterback.
“Doug has NFL experience,” Crennel said. “The time he missed put him behind, but he has played in the NFL in regular season games and that’s important.”

Johnson was 6-of-12 for 59 yards in the preseason and had a QB rating of 64.2.

Big Addition: Romeo Crennel said the opportunity to get Nat Dorsey was too good to pass up even if it left the Browns without a backup center.
“Sometimes you have to strike while the fire is hot,” Crennel said. “Minnesota definitely had a need at center and they were interested in Fowler after they lost their center.”

Dorsey, who will turn 22 on Sept. 9 is in his second season after coming out of Georgia Tech early. He started seven games last season for the Vikings after being their fourth-round draft choice in 2004.

Dorsey (6-7, 322 pounds) said Vikings’ coach Mike Tice told him they hated to lose him.

“The coach told me they needed a center,” Dorsey said. “I know it affected him because we were tight.”

Dorsey has been caught in a whirlwind after arriving in Cleveland early Monday morning.

“It’s one of those things that I haven’t had time to think about,” he said. “I’m here to help the team win.”

“We feel Dorsey can play,” Crennel said “He’s an up-and-coming tackle that can play either left or right tackle.

“When you can get a young tackle, we felt it will benefit us as we move on down the road,” he said. “We felt it was tougher to get a tackle with upside than a guard or center.”

Dorsey thinks he’s going to be able to help the Browns, now and in the future.

“I stepped in as a rookie when a starter went down,” he said. “I’m a big guy, but I’m athletic for my size.”

Dorsey graduated from St. Augustine high school in New Orleans and has had a lot on his mind.

“I’ve lived there my whole life,” he said. “Right now, I’m just trying to take care of my family and make sure they are alright. I was going to bring them to Minnesota, but that has changed.”

Crennel said the Browns will most likely add a backup center before Sunday’s game.

“That’s why it’s good it’s not Sunday,” he said. “(Joe) Andruzzi has snapped before. Hopefully, by Sunday, we’ll have a center.”

Miller Might Play Sunday: New Browns tight end Billy Miller might be pressed into service on Sunday if Aaron Shea is not fully recovered from a strained muscle.

“Miller gives us some depth,” Crennel said. “He’s a veteran tight end who has caught some passes in this league.”

Miller (6-3, 245 pounds) was the roommate of Daylon McCutcheon for four years at USC.

“The Browns use the tight end in their offense and that excites me,” Miller said. “I like running routes and catching balls.

“The biggest thing right now is getting into the play book and trying to get a grasp of it.”

Miller was phased out of the offense in Houston as the Texans are employing more of a blocking tight end.

“They reduced me role and went more to a blocking tight end to help out the tackle.”

Miller caught 51 passes in 2002 for 613 yards, including three touchdowns. He had 40 receptions in 2003 for 355 yards, including three touchdowns. Last year, he had just 17 catches for 178 yards and one touchdown.

Rueben or William: Crennel said the starting running back will probably not be announced until game time. Since Lee Suggs has been out with an ankle injury, the choice will most likely come down to Rueben Droughns or William Green.

“We’re still deciding on who the starter will be,” Crennel said. “It might be a game time decision.”

In the preseason, Droughns had 27 carries for 118 yards (4.4 avg.) and one touchdown. Green had 31 carries for 112 yards (3.6 avg.) and two touchdowns.

After being told he had permission to seek a trade in the off-season, Green is just glad to be on the team.

“I’m not sure what’s going on,” Green said. “I’m just glad to be on the team and want to make the most of my opportunity.”

Injury Update: TE Aaron Shea (shoulder), RB Lee Suggs (ankle) and CB Gary Baxter (concussion). Crennel said all three will be held out of practice today and will be evaluated on Wednesday. Crennel said Baxter would be questionable to doubtful if listed right now. He said if Baxter cannot play, most likely Leigh Bodden will start in his place. Crennel said Suggs has made progress and could start practicing on Wednesday.
“He’s made good improvement,” Crennel said. “He has the boot off and has a chance to practice on Wednesday.”

All three players were at practice on Monday.

Practice Squad: The Browns have announced seven players on the practice squad. Five were with the team in training camp: WR Brandon Rideau, TE Paul Irons, DL J’Vonne Parker, RB Sultan McCullough and LB Justin Kurpeikis. The two other players were OL Atlas Herrion and OL Pete McMahon. Herrion (6-4, 313 pounds) was with on the Packers’ practice squad. McMahon (6-8, 330 pounds) was drafted by the Raiders this year in the sixth-round. Herrion is from Alabama, while McMahon is from Iowa.



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Date: Sep 6, 2005

Some changes have shown up on the Browns "unofficial" depth chart. That, and some notes leading up to our coverage of this Sunday game, can by found within...
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Team Unveils Modified Depth Chart
The Browns included a new version of the team's "unofficial" depth chart in their weekly press released today. We have updated our depth chart to include the new information, including today's release of Andrew Hoffman and re-acquisition of OL Mike Pucillo. The depth chart is also available in downloadable Adobe Reader format. Right click here and save to your hard drive.
Among the key items on the depth chart:
1. Frye moves to backup quarterback
As we reported on Monday, head coach Romeo Crennel has been convinced to make QB Charlie Frye his back-up quarterback by his performance this pre-season. Doug Johnson becomes the team's #3 QB.
2. Droughns listed at #1 RB, but...
Crennel has told the media that the team's starting running back (Droughns or William Green) will likely be a gametime decision. The designation of starter may not be that critical - expect both players to get carries and for Crennel to decide on the number of carries as the game develops.
3. Offensive line transactions
Mike Pucillo is listed as the backup center, although he can also play offensive guard if needed. Nat Dorsey is listed as the team's backup at right tackle, but could also switch over the left side if needed there.
4. Lehan and McCutcheon are the likely starters at cornerback
Gary Baxter is listed as injured on team's new depth chart. The first official injury report comes out on Wednesday, and it is expected that Lee Suggs and Baxter will not be listed as probable.

Number Changes
The team has changed a bunch of uniform numbers which will be used on Sunday. They have been updated on our roster. Here are the new uniform numbers:
94: LB Orlando Ruff
23: CB Ray Mickens
70: OT L.J. Shelton
88: WR Frisman Jackson
75: DL Simon Fraser
84: TE Billy Miller
74: OT Nat Dorsey

Practice squad players with new numbers will be Paul Irons (89), Atlas Herrion (73) and Pete McMahon (79)

Remembering 9/11

The cowardly attack on innocent civilians in the World Trade Center took place four years ago this Sunday. The NFL will be remembering the tragedy in various ways in various cities. In Cleveland, a performance of "America the Beautiful" in Washington DC by Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey will be broadcast prior to the game. Larry Herman of the Cleveland Pops Orchestra will sing the national anthem and the colors will be presented by the five branches of the US military.

TV Info
The Browns game will be on CBS at 1PM EST this Sunday. The broadcast team will be Ian Eagle on play-by-play and Solomon Wilcots as the game analyst.
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</TD><TD noWrap width=3></TD><TD vAlign=top>By Rich Passan
Date: Sep 8, 2005

The Browns head coach's pleasant demeanor may be tested by a challenging year, suggests Bernie's Insiders columnist Rich Passan. With a reconstructed team and a potential quarterback controversy already bubbling, Romeo Crennel will be tested in his first year on the job...
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At the beginning of his news conferences, new Browns coach Romeo Crennel opens with the following greeting: Everybody doing good? All right. I’m doing all right also.
Disarms the assembled media. At least until the first question is fired.
Let’s see how long that cheery greeting lasts this season.
The regular season is here and the game is played on an entirely different plane at an entirely different speed. The level of intensity is ratcheted up.
Crennel early Saturday pronounced himself satisfied about his 53-man roster. “I feel good about where we are,” he said in full spin mode. “We kept the 53 guys who give us the best chance to win.”
He defended the release of reserve offensive linemen Greg Randall and Enoch DeMar and tight end Paul Irons. He explained that reserve offensive tackle Kirk Chambers can swing and play either tackle, Melvin Fowler would be the first guy in at center or guard and the Browns could make it with two tight ends.
Several hours later, the team signed tight end Billy Miller and traded Fowler for offensive tackle Nat Dorsey.
So much for that.
Who knows how many more changes are going to be made between now and Sunday’s season opener at CBS against the Cincinnati Bengals?
It might be enough to make Crennel dust off that old Emily Litella line from Saturday Night Live. Remember the late Gilda Radner as the frumpy, politically-correct woman responding to editorials only to realize she was responding to something entirely different and then saying, “Never mind.”
But when you stop and think about it, what else do you expect Crennel to say? “We really aren’t that good, but I have to say we are because they’re paying me a lot of money to make them look good and won’t be happy if I tell it like it is.”
Fact of the matter is, in spite of the club’s 3-1 exhibition record, this is a team in its infantile stage. There are 35 new faces on the main roster and practice squad, including 12 rookies, with just 27 returnees from the disaster that was the 2004 season.
Of those 27, 21 still have Butch Davis attached to their resumes. In some cases, that’s a cross to bear. It’s just a matter of time before many in that group swell the unemployment line.
To say General Manager Phil Savage and Crennel have cleaned house would be an understatement of the grandest proportions.
From a talent standpoint, however, problem spots permeate the lineup. The defense, at best, is mediocre. That will be exposed in the first three games of the season against high-powered offenses like Cincinnati, Green Bay and Indianapolis.
For all practical purposes, there is no pass rush. And the linebackers are still taking baby steps when it comes to honing their craft in the finer rudiments of the 3-4 defense.
Unless Crennel and defensive coordinator Todd Grantham come up with some creatively ingenious schemes, opponents’ statistics after week three could be staggering beyond belief and comprehension.
By the time the fourth-week bye rolls around, we’ll have a pretty good idea just how bad this defense is. That’s the bad news. The good news is it’s going to get better.
And nothing the offense has done so far will scare anyone. Smash-mouth football is nice, but this is not a physical team on offense despite its slow, lumbering offensive line.
It won’t take long for Reuben Droughns to realize he’s not running behind the same line he ran behind in Denver last season. Tough yards will come even tougher this season. William Green must stay off his tiptoes if he expects to contribute. Better yet, get Lee Suggs healthy and keep him that way.
The passing game will depend on a quarterback who talks a nice game and wide receivers who are suspect at best. Antonio Bryant is inconsistent; Dennis Northcutt is reliable, but small; and Braylon Edwards is a raw rookie who will make mistakes.
Behind them are the marginal Frisman Jackson (how in the world did he stick?) and inexperienced rookie Joshua Cribbs. Enough said.
And Crennel made a big mistake when he started Charlie Frye at quarterback instead of Trent Dilfer in the exhibition victory last week in Chicago. Dilfer should have played at least a couple of series if only to get in some work. By not doing that, Crennel is flirting with a quarterback controversy.
Frye played well – not great – against the Bears. It was good enough to be named the team’s No. 2 quarterback. Bad move. He is not nearly ready. He has not seen the National Football League as it really is. To put him on the precipice of being No. 1 before his time would be a huge mistake.
Frye was clearly better than veteran Doug Johnson in the exhibition season, but Savage and his cohorts failed to provide the club with the type of veteran backup it badly needed. Crennel had no choice.
The coach justified his choice of Frye over Johnson. “The Chicago (exhibition) game did a lot for him,” said Crennel, who anticipates the “Charlie, Charlie, Charlie” chant to commence “probably after the first incompletion by Trent.” If Dilfer gets off to a bad start, you can bet those chants will reverberate around CBS walls.
Crennel said the chanting will not affect his judgment. “I’m going to give (the proven veteran) time to lead this offense and lead this team,” he said. “And then at whatever point I decide it’s not where I want to be or it’s counterproductive, then at that time we’ll put somebody else in and give them a chance.”
It’s trite, but true: Be very careful what you wish for. You just might get it and be sorry.
Bottom line this season: The Browns have a lot of questions that need to be answered and not nearly enough correct answers.
They’ll probably win five or six games. If they wind up with more, thank the NFL gods and cast covetous eyes toward 2006.
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