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Cleveland Browns 2006 Draft Discussion (official thread)

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scarletngrey77 said:
Overall I was pretty thrilled with Day One.

I guess Wimbley is a great pass-rusher and has great physical skills. Jackson was the #1 rated ILB in the draft, and that was probably our biggest need. The last pick kind of pissed me off, but Savage knows more than I do so hopefully he looks like a genius. I looked around and supposedly Wilson wouldve been a 1st round wide reciever, but he had a nagging foot injury all year.

We have two 4th rounders, pick 110 and pick 112. We also have two 5th rounders, pick 145 and pick 152. We also have two 6th rounders, pick 180 and pick 181.

Some names to look out for on the second day of the draft:

Gabe Watson
Darnell Bing
Ko Simpson
Max Jean-Gilles
Fred Matua
Rodrique Wright
Barry Cofield
Mike Kudla
Orien Harris
Stanley McGlover
Kai Parham
Victor Adeyanju
Babatunde Oshinowo
Montavious Stanley
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i went to the indians game so i missed much of the second half of the draft, i am surprised to see that max jean, ko simpson, kudla and some of those other guys havent been picked yet. should be an exciting day with all of these picks left. i was also thinking the browns would go with one of the mac recievers later in the draft, definitely not the third round
 
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ABJ

4/30/06

Browns draft notebook

Browns hit one of three targets

Lawson, Holmes other two defensive players wanted in first round

By Patrick McManamon

Beacon Journal sportswriter

<!-- begin body-content -->BEREA - The Browns targeted three defensive players for their first-round pick in Saturday's NFL Draft.
Had they all been gone when the Browns selected 12th, General Manager Phil Savage said the Browns would have tried to trade down.
Among their targets: North Carolina State defensive end Manny Lawson and wide receiver Santonio Holmes of Ohio State.
``(Holmes is) an outstanding talent,'' Savage said. ``We had him rated high on our board.''
Instead, Holmes went to the Pittsburgh Steelers, who traded up seven spots to get him.
It was a typical Steelers pick -- lose a player like Antwaan Randle El, draft a player like Holmes.
Holmes is a game-breaker who was on the receiving end of the second-longest pass play in Ohio State history, an 85-yarder in the Fiesta Bowl against Notre Dame.
Now the Browns will see Holmes twice a year.
``We better get to the quarterback,'' Savage said.
Wilson not shy
Third-round pick Travis Wilson of Oklahoma was not shy about touting his abilities.
``I know I'm the best receiver in the draft and I promise the Browns that I'm the best wide receiver in the draft,'' Wilson said. ``And I'll take care of business.''
OK, then.
Wilson said few receivers are faster than he is, and ``at the end of the day, I'm the best receiver in the draft and I'll prove them right.''
Not much to add to that.
Sims not targeted
The three players the Browns targeted in round one were linemen Haloti Ngata (taken 12th by the Baltimore Ravens) and Brodrick Bunkley (taken 14th by the Philadelphia Eagles) and Kamerion Wimbley, who was the eventual pick.
Savage said Florida State linebacker Ernie Sims was not under consideration for the 12th spot.
``He was not a precise fit for the 3-4,'' Savage said. ``We would not have taken him at 12, but he was certainly in our top 20.''
Dropping to 10
The story of the first round was that USC quarterback Matt Leinart was not selected until the 10th pick.
A year ago, Leinart might have been the first overall pick. This year, he was taken 10th by the Arizona Cardinals -- after he had lost just two games as a starter in three years at USC.
The Buffalo Bills, picking eighth, passed on Leinart.
``We're going to get better at quarterback not by getting some glamour guy out of the draft but by making our team better around the quarterback,'' General Manager Marv Levy said.
Brownies . . .
Savage said he's confident Wimbley can be a three-down player. He added that the Browns liked D'Qwell Jackson a little better than Iowa's Abdul Hodge, because Jackson moves a little better and is a little more athletic.... Though Savage said there were no talks, Miami Dolphins coach Nick Saban said they turned down an offer to move up from 16th to 13th.... Four Florida State players were taken in the first 19 picks.... North Carolina State had three defensive linemen taken in the first round.... Savage described his relationship with coach Romeo Crennel this way: ``We have a strong bond. If we went up there and picked three chicken littles, he and I still have a strong bond. It's a good partnership whether people perceive us picking good players or not. We are very much on the same page.''
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Hagan is the 2nd coming of antonio bryant, but with less skill overall. I wanted no part of him. The Wilson pick is clearly a pre-emptive move for Dropcutt's departure.

I was hoping for something along the OL or DL as well.

It was a good day 1 overall. Jackson will start in the middle in all liklihood. Wimbley will hopefully become the next Boulware.

Here's why Savage may be smarter than the rest of us. Look at what the Browns need to address on day 2. Essentially linemen on either side. Look at the positions where most of the higher rated talent fell. Cleveland could possibly get Jean-Giles and Oshinowo/Wright/Watson to start the 4th round. That extra 6th from Baltimore may come in handy to slide up early in the 4th and secure one of the guys they really want.
 
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Trade gives Faine fresh start with Saints

Sunday, April 30, 2006
Mary Kay Cabot
Plain Dealer Reporter

Center Jeff Faine, who was traded Saturday to the Saints so that the Browns could move up nine spots in the second round, blamed his departure on Browns General Manager Phil Savage.

"Yeah, it was one of those things where there was a little bit of a miscommunication," Faine told New Orleans media on a conference call. "I was very comfortable with the coaches, and the coaches [and I] had a great relationship. It was more up in the front office, where I guess it was a GM that really wanted his guys and really wanted his people in the organization, and that's just kind of how it went."

Faine said he was mildly surprised by the trade but not worried about finding a starting job somewhere.

"It was more just kind of [being] ready for a fresh start," he said. "I'm excited to be in a new city and to be a part of the Saints."

Faine, the Browns' first-round pick in 2003, became expendable when they signed Saints free-agent center LeCharles Bentley in free agency.

"Jeff has not forced any issue," said Savage. "Jeff was willing to do whatever we asked him to do. He was participating in the off-season program. If nothing happened, we might've gone the whole way through training camp and even into next season with him. I think this clears the way for LeCharles to be the center. I think this works for everybody."

Coach Romeo Crennel said he told Faine that the acquisition of Bentley didn't change the fact that Faine is a good player and that he was comfortable heading into the season and seeing how it all played out at guard and center. He also said Faine was the one who asked if he could seek a trade.

Crennel said he now needs another guard and could look for one today.

Faine can try to get his revenge in the opener here Sept. 10 against the Saints. He'll be blocking for Saints' new No. 1 pick Reggie Bush and quarterback Drew Brees.

"Jeff's going to a good team, and he'll be playing against us in the first game," said Savage. "He's going to a team that has some potential to improve. I think it's a good situation for all involved."


Edwards might miss games:

The Browns conceded that receiver Braylon Edwards might not be ready for the start of the season and that No. 3 pick Travis Wilson, the receiver from Oklahoma, is an insurance policy.

"Braylon may not be ready at the beginning and if he's not ready at the beginning, we have a quality receiver who can help until Braylon is ready," said Crennel. "If Braylon doesn't make it on the field [right away], Travis will be playing."

Savage said of Edwards' return, "It may be the opening of the season, but it may be later than that. It's a nine- or 10-month injury and he had the surgery in early January, so you do the math."

That would put Edward back on the field in early October or November.


No. 1 woes:

Faine's trade leaves the Browns with four of the eight No. 1 picks they've made since 1999. Gone are Tim Couch, Courtney Brown, Gerard Warren and now Faine. Still left are William Green, Kellen Winslow Jr., Braylon Edwards and Kamerion Wimbley.


Last division trade:

The most recent time the Browns traded within the division was 1968 when they traded quarterback Dick Shiner for quarterback Bill Nelsen, who led the Browns to two NFL Championship games.


Day 2 bounty:

The Browns have seven remaining picks today: two in the fourth round, two in the fifth round, two in the sixth and one in the seventh. They acquired the extra fourth-rounder from Atlanta (No. 15 in the round and No. 112 overall) in the trade for safety Chris Crocker, they acquired the extra fifth from New England (20th in round, 152 overall) for receiver Andre Davis and they acquired the extra sixth Saturday from Baltimore (12th in round, 181) in the swap of first-round picks.


Sooner receiver:

The Browns' third-round pick, Travis Wilson, comes to Cleveland with something to prove.

"At the end of the day, I'm the best receiver in the draft," he said.

Wilson (6-1, 213 pounds) was the sixth wide receiver taken in what is considered a weak year for the position. He was rated as high as the third-best receiver by some draftnicks in part because of a 50-reception junior year in which he scored 11 touchdowns. Wilson was limited by a sprained foot/ankle last fall and caught 25 passes and scored one TD.

Wilson said he was overlooked because he was surrounded by more talented players than the receivers drafted ahead of him.

"I feel I make the most of my opportunities, the schools they were at, they were the main focus," he said. "They had the most chances and were the main focus on their offenses. I wasn't."

According to an NFL.com scouting report, Jackson did not excel at gaining yards after a catch, and averaged 12.5 yards per reception (105 catches, 1,315 yards) during his career. However, he has good hands and catches tough balls in traffic and has quick feet, though he is not considered a "burner."
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If the Browns are now looking for a guard, maybe Sims gets a look. Max Jean-Gilles is also available.
 
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CleveBucks said:
Trade gives Faine fresh start with Saints



If the Browns are now looking for a guard, maybe Sims gets a look. Max Jean-Gilles is also available.
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I think we have to seriously considering taking Max Jean-Gilles with our first fourth round pick. The guy is a moutain and he can pull. With Andruzzi getting older, he could be groomed to be the starter in a year or two or possibly take over for coleman if he is underacheiving.
 
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2427730

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Lions might deal QB Harrington to Browns for pick

<!-- end pagetitle --> <!-- begin bylinebox --> By John Clayton
ESPN.com


<!-- begin text11 div --><!-- begin leftcol --> <!-- template inline -->After four difficult seasons in Detroit, quarterback Joey Harrington felt he found a safe landing place by agreeing to be traded to the Miami Dolphins and working out a financial deal.
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Quarterback
Detroit Lions

Profile</td> </tr><tr class="evenrow"> <td align="center"> <table bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" width="190"> <tbody><tr class="stathead" align="center"><td colspan="6" align="center">2005 SEASON STATISTICS</td></tr> <tr style="background: rgb(188, 188, 180) none repeat scroll 0% 50%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;" align="right"> <td width="17%">Att</td> <td width="17%">Comp</td> <td width="17%">Yds</td> <td width="17%">TD</td> <td width="17%">Int</td> <td width="17%">Rat</td> </tr> <tr align="right" bgcolor="#999999"> <td>330</td> <td>188</td> <td>1885</td> <td>12</td> <td>12</td> <td>72.0</td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td></tr> </tbody></table> <!---------------------INLINE MINI-PLAYER CARD ENDS HERE--------------------> That ride might get tougher Sunday. The Lions failed to convince him this week to readjust his contract for a trade with the Chiefs or the Browns, so on Sunday morning, they plan to get tough. They are considering trading him to the Browns for a fourth- or fifth-round choice, and if he refuses to go, they are threatening to challenge his agreement with the Dolphins.
Harrington visited the Dolphins and the Bengals after the Lions gave him permission to shop himself with a trade. He canceled a visit to the Broncos and decided to go to the Dolphins. Harrington and the Dolphins worked out a two-year agreement that would facilitate the trade. Because he has a $4.45 million salary and a $4 million roster bonus due around June 15, Harrington needs to restructure his contract before any trade.
Although Lions president Matt Millen told Harrington he would let him go where the quarterback wanted, the Lions don't want to trade him for the sixth-round choice in 2007 being offered by the Dolphins. The Lions prefer a draft choice Sunday.
A trade could be tricky with the Browns, who have seven second day draft choices. One possibility would be to make a trade with Cleveland that is contingent on Harrington reworking his deal with the Browns, and if he couldn't, he could be traded back to the Lions.
The Dolphins' position is that Harrington wants to join their team. The Lions' position is that the collective bargaining agreement doesn't permit a secret deal and might go to the NFL Management Council for help.
The market for Harrington in a trade diminished when the Broncos drafted Jay Cutler and the Chiefs drafted Brodie Croyle, leaving the Browns as one of the few options for the Lions aside from Miami.
For Harrington, it means his exit from Detroit could become as difficult as his four-year stay.
John Clayton is a senior NFL writer for ESPN.com.
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Bucks21 said:
Personally i think he is damaged goods and a pick shouldn't be wasted on Harrington. If we want to considering get a quarterback how about we look at Omar Jacobs from Bowling Green he had 41 td's and 4 ints his sophmore year. A big athletic guy from a local school.
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I wouldn't mind harrington.. more competiton at quarterback is always a good thing, especially with frye - IMO. Now, do we give a 4th round pick.. no
 
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