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Classic Christmas Movies Beloved by Millions...And The Things That Are Wrong With Them

LostLassie

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There used to be this recurring discussion on the old Mike & Mike show about the cartoon of Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer. Golic had come to notice, as the more-or-less adult he was, that Santa was not exactly sympathetic to Rudolph's plight as a young deer. You'd think the North Pole, of all places, would have an anti-bullying policy, but no, no Naughty List for that. And Rudolph's father was disturbingly unsupportive as well. Which coincidentally reminds me of this image someone posted online yesterday:

RUDOLPH THE RED FINAL.jpg

Anyway, someone brought up favorite Christmas movies today, and I was reminded of A Wonderful Life. I first stumbled onto this film when I had worked really late on Christmas Eve, came home & flipped on the TV to PBS just as it was starting. Loved it then, but as time has passed I've noticed an issue or two. One, George Bailey has more than a little drinking problem. As things go wrong for him, George hits the bottle (and almost hits a couple of his kids.) The whole town taking up a collection for him won't fix that, unless some of the money is spent on therapy. Also, the druggist, Mr. Gower, should have gone to the slammer for assault after he pummeled young George in (booze again) a drunken rage. Sure, he'd been notified his own son was dead, but that hardly justifies physically attacking someone else's young son. While we're on the subject, George's Uncle Billy most likely lost the money for the bank deposit because he, too, was a wee bit tipsy, as he appeared to be quite often. That whole movie is as rum-riddled as a re-gifted Christmas fruit cake.

Also, my kid used to absolutely seethe at the early scene when George and Mary are throwing rocks thru the windows of the Old Granville House, making wishes. George says

"Mary, I know what I'm gonna do tomorrow, and the next day, and the next year, and the year after that. I'm shakin' the dust of this crummy little town off my feet and I'm gonna see the world. Italy, Greece, the Parthenon, the Coliseum. Then, I'm comin' back here to go to college and see what they know. And then I'm gonna build things. I'm gonna build airfields, I'm gonna build skyscrapers a hundred stories high, I'm gonna build bridges a mile long..."

And then Mary throws a rock through a window, but she won't say what she wished for, although it becomes clear later. Basically, she wished that every single thing George has ever dreamed of for his life will never come true. And she gets her wish. Might explain his drinking problem.

Anyhoo, if you've got a pet peeve about some annually aired classic that everybody else loves unconditionally, feel free to vent about it here rather than out there in the real world. That way, maybe non-virtual people will still be speaking to you by New Year's Eve.
 
The Santa Clause.

Laura and Neal (mom and Step dad) show up in the middle of a Charlie’s soccer game. They find Scott Calvin (Tim Allen) talking to kids whom lined up - ON THEIR OWN - to visit Santa. The culmination of this scene is them chastising Scott/Santa and that they’re taking Charlie and them seeing each other isn’t the right thing anymore due to his Santa delusions.

I have several issues. First, if Laura and Neal were truly invested in Charlie as their son, they would have been on time to the soccer game. But no, their is video evidence of them arriving half way through. Mind you, their second child isn’t born until The Santa Clause 2, AND they’re dressed casually so it’s not like they were at work.

Two, they walk right across the field in the middle of the game with no regard for the other kids. No other parent yells at them and the game keeps going on around them.

Third, Santa, being the awesome dude he is, says that he will leave in response to the Uber elitist parents saying they were pulling Charlie and leaving. But no, it’s all about them causing a scene in front of the soccer community.

But don’t you guys worry, Scott gets the last laugh when he has Neal blow on his weenie whistle late in the movie.
 
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It was incredible... I won't lie I'm shocked it didn't go to theatre.

Really unique and was very well done. Explains a lot of how Santa may exist today (how does he get to every house, how does he know everyone, etc).

The ending was outstanding... (won't spoil it)
Netflix has changed TV and I think the movie theater is next; it’s limping as is. The CGI was really, really good. As for Chronicles, it wasn’t the same old story and was a really nice evolution with Santa.

I told my wife that this will be our kids version of The Santa Clause for us. I’ve honestly been waiting for a Christmas movie like this for a while. Young at heart, Santa is a fun character, and to your point it explains Santa’s existence for today.
 
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Netflix has changed TV and I think the movie theater is next; it’s limping as is. The CGI was really, really good. As for Chronicles, it wasn’t the same old story and was a really nice evolution with Santa.

I told my wife that this will be our kids version of The Santa Clause for us. I’ve honestly been waiting for a Christmas movie like this for a while. Young at heart, Santa is a fun character, and to your point it explains Santa’s existence for today.
X100...

I caught myself wishing Santa was real and I'm over 30 lol... so you know its good!

As you said it's our kids Santa Claus.
 
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