Cincinnati Reds (2026 Season Thread)

[Fungo Squiggly]

Facts. Im actually shocked they did

Like, I get that WAR isn't meaningless and that defense is part of the game, too, but when you look at the numbers he put up, it's just hard to argue. He's one of 15 rookies EVER with 30 homers and 100+ RBI and the previous 9 have all won the award. They are counting stats, but he's putting up those numbers on a dogshit team with guys in front of him that never get on base.

I could have lived with Benge winning it, but the push for Wetherholt was absurd.

I'm pretty salty about all the hate he's getting elsewhere, in case it wasn't obvious.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Like, I get that WAR isn't meaningless and that defense is part of the game, too, but when you look at the numbers he put up, it's just hard to argue. He's one of 15 rookies EVER with 30 homers and 100+ RBI and the previous 9 have all won the award. They are counting stats, but he's putting up those numbers on a dogshit team with guys in front of him that never get on base.

I could have lived with Benge winning it, but the push for Wetherholt was absurd.

I'm pretty salty about all the hate he's getting elsewhere, in case it wasn't obvious.

I can love it because he's our guy and agree with those that hate the use of counting stats at the same time is kind of where I land on it.

The 30 homers is way different than the RBI in terms of that topic.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Here is how I would have voted the three of them btw:

Player/wRC+/WAR

1. Benge 118/4.3
2. Stewart 112/2.0
3. Wetherholt 101/4.6

Benge was a more valuable offensive/defensive and baserunning player so I really don't see how he didn't win it.

Stewart was the better offensive player at an offensive position but it's hard to get past the 2 WAR. He also ranked terribly on base running.

Wetherholt is barely above average as a hitter but obviously light years ahead in BR and defense

It's a tough call but I personally wouldn't have given it to the guy just for the RBI. Maybe the 32 home runs but again, that's captured in wRC+ he plays in GABP.

Put Benge in that ballpark in all the same situations that Stewart was in and he (mathematically) out paces him. Likewise put Sal in Citit field and he likely comes in a distant 2nd or 3rd.

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

Here is how I would have voted the three of them btw:

Player/wRC+/WAR

1. Benge 118/4.3
2. Stewart 112/2.0
3. Wetherholt 101/4.6

Benge was a more valuable offensive/defensive and baserunning player so I really don't see how he didn't win it.

Stewart was the better offensive player at an offensive position but it's hard to get past the 2 WAR. He also ranked terribly on base running.

Wetherholt is barely above average as a hitter but obviously light years ahead in BR and defense

It's a tough call but I personally wouldn't have given it to the guy just for the RBI. Maybe the 32 home runs but again, that's captured in wRC+ he plays in GABP.

Put Benge in that ballpark in all the same situations that Stewart was in and he (mathematically) out paces him. Likewise put Sal in Citit field and he likely comes in a distant 2nd or 3rd.

I'd have no argument with any of that. Really, I'm just irked by the people acting like this is the biggest travesty in ROTY history and talking about Stewart like he was a bum last season.

 

[Jaxbuck]

I'd have no argument with any of that. Really, I'm just irked by the people acting like this is the biggest travesty in ROTY history and talking about Stewart like he was a bum last season.