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CBS: All-Decade Team

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High Lonesome said:
Vince is the greatest "running" QB of all time....Passed for over 3k and ran for over 1k.....never been done and wont be done for a while longer....
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I doubt it will ever be done again, at least not by a QB in a BCS conference. Think about it--VY was phenomenal last year and he still just barely made it in both categories (3,036 passing and 1,050 rushing).
 
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First time seeing that list....Maybe I scrolled too fast, but where was Doss?!?!?! WTF?! He was a three time Safety All-American, pretty much saying he was the best at his spot in 2000, 2001, and 2002. He may have not had the guady stats because we had stellar defensive players around him making tackles. The guy always played lights out and should have garnered an award his senior season. I guess I will jsut take this list for what it truely is...:(
 
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akronbuck said:
no Gamble. His junior year was the best on both sides. He should be a first teamer
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Gamble played almost no offense his junior year. He was also no where near the big play on defense guy that he was his sophomore year, and he was exposed, in big spots, a couple times for biting on the hitch and go routes. Gamble is not all decade by any stretch. Doss, however, should have been on the list.
 
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IronBuckI said:
Yeah, I believe I said that White wasn't worth being on the list.



Right. Two years versus three and change will normally yield higher numbers to the guy with three and change.
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Yeah...and my point was that to me a receiver with one great year shouldn't make the All-Decade team over a guy with 3 very good ones...which was your point on Carson Palmer.
 
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The trends have reflected society. In this digital age, everybody wants it now. For that, you can thank Oklahoma's Bob Stoops and Ohio State's Jim Tressel. Each won a national championship in his second year on the job.
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[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]"Stoops basically got John Cooper and several other coaches fired," CBS college football analyst Spencer Tillman said. "The standard became: If you couldn't get it done in that time frame then it was, 'Why could Oklahoma do it?' It was three years, see ya. Everything changed." [/FONT]
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Gotta take issue with that conjecture as it relates to Cooper: he was fired the day before (1/2/01) Oklahoma won their title. But I like seeing Tressel get credit for helping to change the college football landscape.
 
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"Stoops basically got John Cooper and several other coaches fired," CBS college football analyst Spencer Tillman said. "The standard became: If you couldn't get it done in that time frame then it was, 'Why could Oklahoma do it?' It was three years, see ya. Everything changed."
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Stoops caused 23 players to be borderline ineligible for the 2001 Outback Bowl, punched Tyson Walter, sued LeCharles Bentley, drew five unsportsmanlike conduct penalties in one game, ran up the score on an opponent after a demoralizing injury in the midst of a blowout, and went 2-10-1 against Michigan?

I knew I always hated that jack ass!
 
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Dryden said:
Stoops caused 23 players to be borderline ineligible for the 2001 Outback Bowl, punched Tyson Walter, sued LeCharles Bentley, drew five unsportsmanlike conduct penalties in one game, ran up the score on an opponent after a demoralizing injury in the midst of a blowout, and went 2-10-1 against Michigan?

I knew I always hated that jack ass!
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Don't hold back now, man...how did you really feel about the state of the program in 1999-2000?
 
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Bucklion said:
Yeah...and my point was that to me a receiver with one great year shouldn't make the All-Decade team over a guy with 3 very good ones...which was your point on Carson Palmer.
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From NCAA.org. They split up Lee Evans stats due to him taking a year off from the knee injury. Hence, the two career statistics listed. What this shows is that your stats were slightly off, but close enough for a good comparison of the two players. Rogers had 27 total td's, 25 of which were receiving. He was consistently dominant in both years 1200 and 1351 yards in both. Scoring 13 and 12 receiving touchdowns. Seems pretty dominant to me. Evans' stats were almost as good his last two years, but was not consistently very good for all three. Add to that that Evans scored 9 of his 25 touchdowns against Michigan State and had 531 of his 3306 yards against them as well. Had 7 scoreless games in his best yardage year, and 5 scoreless games in his best scoring year. Evans was not consistently "very good". Even in his best years. Compare that to Rogers 6 scoreless games for his entire career. Rogers was more consistently dominant that Evans was.
Stats used to be here, but the format got screwed up...you're going to have to take my word for it :biggrin:
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IronBuckI said:
From NCAA.org. They split up Lee Evans stats due to him taking a year off from the knee injury. Hence, the two career statistics listed. What this shows is that your stats were slightly off, but close enough for a good comparison of the two players. Rogers had 27 total td's, 25 of which were receiving. He was consistently dominant in both years 1200 and 1351 yards in both. Scoring 13 and 12 receiving touchdowns. Seems pretty dominant to me. Evans' stats were almost as good his last two years, but was not consistently very good for all three. Add to that that Evans scored 9 of his 25 touchdowns against Michigan State and had 531 of his 3306 yards against them as well. Had 7 scoreless games in his best yardage year, and 5 scoreless games in his best scoring year. Evans was not consistently "very good". Even in his best years. Compare that to Rogers 6 scoreless games for his entire career. Rogers was more consistently dominant that Evans was.
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You don't think Evans was consistently good, I don't think Rogers was consistently dominant at all...we can agree to disagree.
 
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