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CBF40's breakdown of the Indiana Game.

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I googled "hitting a defenseless player out of the play" and got zero results. ZERO!!!

Even "hitting a defenseless player" only returned 31 unique results (some of them talking about this BS call). I challenge any of you to find a penalty less discussed than that one.



BTW - terrific write up CBF40.
 
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deezbucks said:
is it just me, or did it seem like the refs were making up a new rule when they said that #16 on Ohio state hit a "defenseless" player on teddy's kickoff return?? the tv announcers were both in agreement that there are no "defenseless" players on a kick return and that its the kick coverage teams job to make sure everyone is blocked until the player is down or in the endzone.
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If the play was "over", then the refs should have signalled "touchdown" when Ginn hit the 20-yard line. Worst call ever.
 
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jwinslow said:
One thing that seems strange is that Holmes seems to run a lot of long developing routes. For a QB who struggles to break off of his primary read (Holmes in these examples), it seems like we run too many like that. I'm all for mixing up the routes, but perhaps we could learn to look for quick hitters over the middle, and then come back to Holmes' intermediate route after that. Or perhaps that's asking too much for now.
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Routes depend on the drop steps...your slow developing routes (post-corner, Cadillac, etc) are usually always a 5 or 7 step drop...by the time the QB gets into his final step, he should have a read on the play and be able to deliver on time...if Holmes is the primary read, Smith should know if he is available before he reaches that final plant step...if he isn't, the checkdown should already be under way.
 
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thanks for the intel...

Do they ever apologize for bad calls in CFB like the NFL will do on occasion? As in, has the Big Ten ever issued an apology for an awful call? I guess we won handily anyway, but there were three calls that go down as the worst I've seen in a while (Ginn KR, KO do-over, and Ginn "fumble").
 
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osugrad21 said:
Routes depend on the drop steps...your slow developing routes (post-corner, Cadillac, etc) are usually always a 5 or 7 step drop...by the time the QB gets into his final step, he should have a read on the play and be able to deliver on time...if Holmes is the primary read, Smith should know if he is available before he reaches that final plant step...if he isn't, the checkdown should already be under way.
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I think a little of the concern might be the long developing routes when Smith is in the gun b/c you don't really take a drop when you are in the gun.

I think Smith throws better after PA and doesnt have as much time to sit and watch a reciever try to get open.

The two td passes against MSU were off that fake option type PA and he had a couple passes against IU that were off of PA that he threw very well.

I know people are saying that he had Gonzo open on the one PA where he put it right where it had to be to Holmes and he made a great attempt, but it went through his arms. I had no problem with that b/c that was his primary reciever and he thought he could get it to him, so that is where he went.
 
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The only possible explanation for the disallowing the catch by the Indiana WR is that you can't let the ball hit your foot on a reception when the foot is on the ground. I know there are other examples where making contact with the football with your feet is illegal (which is weird since this is "foot"ball), so maybe this is one of those rules buried deep in the rulebook. That's the only thing I can think of, because the replay clearly showed the ball never touched the ground.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
The only possible explanation for the disallowing the catch by the Indiana WR is that you can't let the ball hit your foot on a reception when the foot is on the ground. I know there are other examples where making contact with the football with your feet is illegal (which is weird since this is "foot"ball), so maybe this is one of those rules buried deep in the rulebook. That's the only thing I can think of, because the replay clearly showed the ball never touched the ground.
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Mili,

Good point. I never knew that you couldn't catch a ball off of your foot.

If that was the call, it would have been nice for the ref to explain that to those of us in the crowd and especially Coach Hoeppner.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
The only possible explanation for the disallowing the catch by the Indiana WR is that you can't let the ball hit your foot on a reception when the foot is on the ground. I know there are other examples where making contact with the football with your feet is illegal (which is weird since this is "foot"ball), so maybe this is one of those rules buried deep in the rulebook. That's the only thing I can think of, because the replay clearly showed the ball never touched the ground.
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you cant catch a kicked ball (remember the nebraska game where the receiver kicks the ball up in the air and it is caught, ruled a touchdown should have been an incompeletion) i believe it is an illegal touching, i have to run now but ill look it up in the rule book later.

or one of you guys can download it from ncaa and find it.
 
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crazybuckfan40 said:
-The Refs fucking sucked. Here are a few examples.
1. Ginn's KO return(what the hell was that, probably worst call I have ever seen)
2. Clipping on Datish and Boone, you are aloud to cut someone inside the tackle box as long as they are not being held up by someone else. Also Datish maybe hit the guys heel of his shoe when he dove for his guy. Horrible calls.
3. The ghostly whistles going on, I know it is close to Halloween, but WTF twice in one game.
4. The non-PI call against the IND defender on the INT. The guy was not allowing the reciever to get to the bal by making contact. I always thought that was PI.
5. The Ginn fumble what the hell happened to the forward progress whistle, Ginn clearly stopped.
6. The replay for IND. where they said that ball hit the ground. What replay did they see that I didnt.
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I'm sure I'm not the first, but I second that "fucking sucked"! Not that any of the calls made a huge difference in the game itself, but the magnitude of the idiocy displayed on some of those calls was astounding (especially #1,5,6). Worst reffing ever.
 
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