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Oden might delay signing
Prep star still plans to attend Ohio State but may wait until NCAA penalties are announced.
dated: October 2, 2005
By Jeff Rabjohns
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Greg Oden said Saturday he is considering waiting to sign with Ohio State until the spring signing period when the full scope of NCAA sanctions against the school are known.
Lawrence North's 7-foot senior center, the reigning national high school basketball Player of Year, said he still intends to play for the Buckeyes, to whom he made an oral commitment in June.
However, he may sign during the spring period that runs April 12-May 17 instead of during the early period of Nov. 9-16.
"I have no idea at this point," Oden said of when he would sign. "We haven't talked about it. We will have to talk about it first."
But the news will send ripples through college basketball if Oden doesn't sign.
Sanctions against Ohio State will be announced after an NCAA infractions committee hearing scheduled for Dec. 9-10. Ohio State issued a self-imposed postseason ban last year, and if NCAA precedent is any indication, the Buckeyes won't be banned for the postseason in the future for violations that occurred under former coach Jim O'Brien.
It would take NCAA penalties that give Ohio State the equivalent of a three-year postseason ban to affect Oden and his class, who will be freshmen in 2006-07.
The class, considered the best in the country, includes Lawrence North point guard Mike Conley, Dayton, Ohio, guard Daequan Cook and Cleveland guard David Lighty, all ranked in the top 30 in the nation.
Mike Conley Sr., who has coached Oden and his son for years in summer basketball, said he, his wife and Oden's mother, Zoe, plan to spend part of October studying cases similar to Ohio State's to see what potential penalties might be. He said he didn't see any way the players would not eventually sign with Ohio State.
"They're planning on signing," Conley Sr. said. "If they don't sign (in November), it's only because the parents intervened, and they can hold off on signing.
"Regardless, the boys have every intention of signing, whether it be in November or April. We just haven't had that conversation yet."
The NCAA does not discuss ongoing investigations, but on May 16, Ohio State said the NCAA notified it of nine rules violations, seven involving men's basketball.
Oden said potential penalties haven't changed his mind about Ohio State and doesn't have him concerned about other schools trying to jump back in the recruiting process. Students are considered recruitable athletes until they sign, but the unwritten rule is other schools leave players alone once oral commitments are made.
"I know that's where I want to go," Oden said. "I'm not really worried about other schools or things like that. As far as signing, I just haven't talked it over with Mike or Mom yet."
Even if additional penalties are imposed, it's unlikely they would affect Oden and Conley.
Baylor, which was found guilty of multiple serious violations following the murder of one player by another in 2003, wasn't banned from postseason play for multiple years. The Bears missed only one postseason because of a self-imposed ban, and the NCAA didn't add any postseason ban. The NCAA took away nonconference games this season and reduced paid official visits by players and the number of coaches who can recruit off campus in addition to other technical matters.
"The only thing that could even spark a conversation is if they were denied postseason play in 2007," the elder Conley said. "That would require a three-year postseason ban, which I haven't heard of for what they're investigated for. Even if there are sanctions in 2007, it wouldn't affect them if it's lost scholarships or they had to pay back money."
Ohio State is facing potential sanctions from violations that occurred under O'Brien, who was fired in June 2004.
The infractions go back to the 1999-2000 season. They came to light in April 2004, when O'Brien was a potential witness in a lawsuit by a booster who claimed she paid thousands of dollars for living expenses to a former Buckeyes player. O'Brien was subsequently fired, and Thad Matta was hired. Ohio State announced Dec. 9, 2004, that it would not play in the 2005 NCAA or National Invitation tournaments as self-imposed sanctions for the violations when O'Brien was coach.
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Prep star still plans to attend Ohio State but may wait until NCAA penalties are announced.
dated: October 2, 2005
By Jeff Rabjohns
[email protected]
Greg Oden said Saturday he is considering waiting to sign with Ohio State until the spring signing period when the full scope of NCAA sanctions against the school are known.
Lawrence North's 7-foot senior center, the reigning national high school basketball Player of Year, said he still intends to play for the Buckeyes, to whom he made an oral commitment in June.
However, he may sign during the spring period that runs April 12-May 17 instead of during the early period of Nov. 9-16.
"I have no idea at this point," Oden said of when he would sign. "We haven't talked about it. We will have to talk about it first."
But the news will send ripples through college basketball if Oden doesn't sign.
Sanctions against Ohio State will be announced after an NCAA infractions committee hearing scheduled for Dec. 9-10. Ohio State issued a self-imposed postseason ban last year, and if NCAA precedent is any indication, the Buckeyes won't be banned for the postseason in the future for violations that occurred under former coach Jim O'Brien.
It would take NCAA penalties that give Ohio State the equivalent of a three-year postseason ban to affect Oden and his class, who will be freshmen in 2006-07.
The class, considered the best in the country, includes Lawrence North point guard Mike Conley, Dayton, Ohio, guard Daequan Cook and Cleveland guard David Lighty, all ranked in the top 30 in the nation.
Mike Conley Sr., who has coached Oden and his son for years in summer basketball, said he, his wife and Oden's mother, Zoe, plan to spend part of October studying cases similar to Ohio State's to see what potential penalties might be. He said he didn't see any way the players would not eventually sign with Ohio State.
"They're planning on signing," Conley Sr. said. "If they don't sign (in November), it's only because the parents intervened, and they can hold off on signing.
"Regardless, the boys have every intention of signing, whether it be in November or April. We just haven't had that conversation yet."
The NCAA does not discuss ongoing investigations, but on May 16, Ohio State said the NCAA notified it of nine rules violations, seven involving men's basketball.
Oden said potential penalties haven't changed his mind about Ohio State and doesn't have him concerned about other schools trying to jump back in the recruiting process. Students are considered recruitable athletes until they sign, but the unwritten rule is other schools leave players alone once oral commitments are made.
"I know that's where I want to go," Oden said. "I'm not really worried about other schools or things like that. As far as signing, I just haven't talked it over with Mike or Mom yet."
Even if additional penalties are imposed, it's unlikely they would affect Oden and Conley.
Baylor, which was found guilty of multiple serious violations following the murder of one player by another in 2003, wasn't banned from postseason play for multiple years. The Bears missed only one postseason because of a self-imposed ban, and the NCAA didn't add any postseason ban. The NCAA took away nonconference games this season and reduced paid official visits by players and the number of coaches who can recruit off campus in addition to other technical matters.
"The only thing that could even spark a conversation is if they were denied postseason play in 2007," the elder Conley said. "That would require a three-year postseason ban, which I haven't heard of for what they're investigated for. Even if there are sanctions in 2007, it wouldn't affect them if it's lost scholarships or they had to pay back money."
Ohio State is facing potential sanctions from violations that occurred under O'Brien, who was fired in June 2004.
The infractions go back to the 1999-2000 season. They came to light in April 2004, when O'Brien was a potential witness in a lawsuit by a booster who claimed she paid thousands of dollars for living expenses to a former Buckeyes player. O'Brien was subsequently fired, and Thad Matta was hired. Ohio State announced Dec. 9, 2004, that it would not play in the 2005 NCAA or National Invitation tournaments as self-imposed sanctions for the violations when O'Brien was coach.
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