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Fantasy BuckeyePlanet Fantasy Football - Keeper League (R.I.P.)

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It looks like Yahoo has added some keeper management tools. I have enabled them so we can test it out. After you re-up in the league, I am able to enter the keeper values on Yahoo so you can see them under your team's roster. It looks like you'll also be able to select and submit your keepers thru Yahoo. I still plan to do all the same stuff I've done before as far as posting and tracking info in the threads, but I'd also like people to try out the tools on Yahoo to see how they work.
 
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I accepted the join invite for the league... I went to the "Keeper" section, and it looks like we will be able to select who we are keeping and the values they have. The only hang up is that they haven't set the keeper values yet, so everything is still listed as a 7th rounder. I am assuming that will change and I hope it is consistent with what we would normally have (ie. I picked Cam Newton up as a FA, I don't wan't to burn a 1st or 2nd round pick on him.)
 
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Yahoo doesn't set the keeper values automatically, they have to be entered manually by me. It doesn't allow me to enter values until a team rejoins the league for this year. I have already entered the keeper values for myself and the other person who renewed, and I plan to continue to do so as other people get signed up as well. I've updated a bit of the information in the news thread, and will be working on that this week also.
 
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Keeper values have been updated in Yahoo for all teams that have renewed so far. Please let me know if you see anything that appears to be incorrect. I'm still working on updating the News/Archives thread.

We have five people that have renewed so far, and my non-BP friend Tommy says he plans to renew as well.
 
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I have updated the News thread with all the info that we normally archive there. One big change I've made though, is that instead of maintaining the separate locked posts for each team, I've compiled it all into a "media guide" with historical data for each team and a page at the end for league records. It's a 22-page document, which I have both attached as a .pdf and embedded as .png images. I wanted to dress it up a little, make it easier to format and read and provide a way to recognize more of the history of the league. The old posts for each team have been soft deleted. They still exist, but I don't plan to maintain those going forward, instead incorporating everything into this new format. Version 2.0, if you will. As always, please look it over and let me know if you notice any discrepancies.

Also, I saw updated keeper values on Yahoo again for anybody who has renewed since the previous update. Please sign up if you haven't already done so, or notify me if you don't plan to renew so a person can be found to take over your team. Keepers are due in just over a month.
 
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Also - I wanted to make this a separate post so it didn't get lost...

In compiling the information that I've been working on, I noticed something odd with the way final standings are done by Yahoo. Because of the stupid consolation playoff that the 7th-10th place teams are thrown into, the standings can get re-shuffled at the bottom in games that nobody pays attention to, and that affects the next season's draft order.

Last season, jwinslow (not picking on you) went 0-13 during the regular season, but is listed as the 7th place finisher because he won the consolation playoff, likely out of dumb luck without even paying attention to his team (correct me if I'm wrong on that). Because of that, under the way we have done it before he would be picking 4th rather than 1st in the upcoming draft. That strikes me as backwards and unfair.

Not that I care about the stupid consolation playoffs, but if that's the way it's gonna work then it places an incentive on tanking games. I'd rather have people give up and not care at the end rather than expecting people to go out of their way to tank the consolation playoffs so their draft position isn't ruined.

Long story short: I think that our draft order should be determined in a way that more closely mimics real football - where teams that don't make the playoffs have their draft position determined by their regular season record. What are everybody's thoughts on that?

For your consideration:

Draft results based on consolation playoff results (the way we've always done it):

  1. BlufftonBuckeye (5-8)
  2. GomerBucks (5-8)
  3. Bucklion (4-9)
  4. jwinslow (0-13)
Draft results based on regular season record:

  1. jwinslow (0-13)
  2. Bucklion (4-9)
  3. GomerBucks (5-8)
  4. BlufftonBuckeye (5-8)
 
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GomerBucks;2180534; said:
I am excited for this upcoming season... Last year was crazy for me in that I finished the regular season so strong but still missed the playoffs.... I have a couple GOOD options for keepers that aren't going to cost much...
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I definitely took notice of your team from last year when I was putting stuff together. You have a lot of interesting choices, and whatever you decide is going to have a huge impact on the first couple rounds of the draft.

My keeper choices on the other hand seem to be a little more clear-cut.
 
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I would agree with you JLB. There is no reason the consolation playoffs would affect the draft order. As an aside, I appreciate the work you have put into this league. It can be quite the pain in the ass to run a keeper league, and I have been in plenty that suck because the commish doesn't keep up the admin side of it. But you have always gone above and beyond with this league so thanks!


jlb1705;2179448; said:
Also - I wanted to make this a separate post so it didn't get lost...

In compiling the information that I've been working on, I noticed something odd with the way final standings are done by Yahoo. Because of the stupid consolation playoff that the 7th-10th place teams are thrown into, the standings can get re-shuffled at the bottom in games that nobody pays attention to, and that affects the next season's draft order.

Last season, jwinslow (not picking on you) went 0-13 during the regular season, but is listed as the 7th place finisher because he won the consolation playoff, likely out of dumb luck without even paying attention to his team (correct me if I'm wrong on that). Because of that, under the way we have done it before he would be picking 4th rather than 1st in the upcoming draft. That strikes me as backwards and unfair.

Not that I care about the stupid consolation playoffs, but if that's the way it's gonna work then it places an incentive on tanking games. I'd rather have people give up and not care at the end rather than expecting people to go out of their way to tank the consolation playoffs so their draft position isn't ruined.

Long story short: I think that our draft order should be determined in a way that more closely mimics real football - where teams that don't make the playoffs have their draft position determined by their regular season record. What are everybody's thoughts on that?

For your consideration:

Draft results based on consolation playoff results (the way we've always done it):

  1. BlufftonBuckeye (5-8)
  2. GomerBucks (5-8)
  3. Bucklion (4-9)
  4. jwinslow (0-13)
Draft results based on regular season record:

  1. jwinslow (0-13)
  2. Bucklion (4-9)
  3. GomerBucks (5-8)
  4. BlufftonBuckeye (5-8)
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Ahiacitian;2185405; said:
I would agree with you JLB. There is no reason the consolation playoffs would affect the draft order. As an aside, I appreciate the work you have put into this league. It can be quite the pain in the ass to run a keeper league, and I have been in plenty that suck because the commish doesn't keep up the admin side of it. But you have always gone above and beyond with this league so thanks!
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No problem. I enjoy doing it all. I figure, what's the point in having a persistent league like this one unless there is a higher level of attention and involvement?

At this point, it looks like BuckTwenty and tommy are the only ones who are not signed up yet, and they have both said they'll be in. No turnover this year, which is good. I'm going out of town for the weekend, so I figure I'll start pestering people when I get back.

Since I've heard no objections to the draft order item I bought up, I assume that everybody's OK with it. I'll add that to the league rules when I get a chance.
 
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Also, I've made this a separate post so hopefully it doesn't get overlooked.

I haven't had any feedback on the draft time. It's currently set up for Tues. Aug. 28 at 7:45 PM. After I set that draft time, the non-keeper BP Deuce league set up its draft for the same night, starting at 8 PM. A few years back when this league started there was a lot of overlap, with several people participating in both leagues. I don't know if that's still the case, but I'm still in both leagues and would rather not have overlapping drafts. Since this league had set its time first I posted in the other league's thread to ask if they'd move the time. I've had no response. It might be best if we just move our time - that is, if it's OK with everybody else in the league. I for one still like Tuesday night, and could be OK with making the draft earlier (7 PM) or later (9 PM) in the evening.

What does everybody else think?
 
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