Hey, seriously, before this gets out of hand...
I thought all this was in good fun, and I would hope that no one is taking their "membership" in one of these "fake parties" as some kind of statement regarding anything. I think, and Di, correct me if I'm wrong, the BKA was developed as a response to what some people think is a depature from the point of this board. Well, what is the point of this board?
I don't pretend to know Clarity or his reasons very well. I do know that he has said he wants people to feel free to talk about whatever, as long as it's civil. He wants an on-line community. Well, that's a daunting task. I think it's pretty clear that that is a goal not without it's problems. Click-ish behavior is going to happen, and people will feel ... I don't know, alienated? But,the bottom line is, each of us needs to reflect a bit and ask, what is it we want out of BP? Personally, I want to keep informed about Buckeye football. But, I also want to be able to spout off about stuff in some form of reasoned debate. That said, I also like to inject what I consider comedy where appropriate, and I probably sometimes over do it. Sorry for the tangent. What I'm getting at is, and Clarity mentioned it on his announcement, let's not become what we purport to hate. Maybe I'm overreacting, or even overstepping my bounds, but it seems to me that something needed to be said before things get out of hand with this PCP and BKA stuff.
Again, in my mind it's been about some on-line forum fun, nothing more, nothing less. I don't think "membership" in either of these "groups" has any real relevance to anything. That Clarity would allow it in the first place (and I say "allow" attempting to be devoid of identifying Clar as some kind of dictator) is what makes this place a great place to post. Let's not lose sight of that. BP is a great opportunity for us to exchange ideas about a great many things. I don't think it's wise to begin engaging in some kind of fake war for superiority as to what direction this site will go. This site will only go one direction, and that is the direction that it was built to go. The whole concept of "self policing" is key. I think that's why Di started the BKA thing. He's policing what he sees as detrimental to the point of this board. And, I can't say he's off base.
Or, maybe Di really does want some kind of factions - I just seriously doubt it. On-line behavior is a microcosm of reality. There will be problems of this type - click v. click or whatever. But, if we - BPers - are to achieve Clarity's dream of having an online community devoted to open discussion and one that doesn't become exclusive or censoring (i.e. BN), I think we need to bear in mind, the behavior between PCP and BKA is potentially disasterous. I don't want this place lost, I know Clarity doesn't, and I doubt anyone reading this thread does. Indeed, if your here at all, and you disagree, you should get the fuck out right now.
Again, maybe I'm out of line, and maybe I am making the wrong conclusion or estimation of what's going on here, but I thought something needed to be said before it gets out of hand. I mean, ultimately - played out to its end, if we indeed had two groups, one would lobby Clarity to start banning members of the other, and I don't think anyone wants this to be the case. So, again, ask yourself, why are you on this board? Is it some statement regarding your personality? Or is it a place to go, talk to other people about subjects you enjoy, most notably Buckeye football?
I thought all this was in good fun, and I would hope that no one is taking their "membership" in one of these "fake parties" as some kind of statement regarding anything. I think, and Di, correct me if I'm wrong, the BKA was developed as a response to what some people think is a depature from the point of this board. Well, what is the point of this board?
I don't pretend to know Clarity or his reasons very well. I do know that he has said he wants people to feel free to talk about whatever, as long as it's civil. He wants an on-line community. Well, that's a daunting task. I think it's pretty clear that that is a goal not without it's problems. Click-ish behavior is going to happen, and people will feel ... I don't know, alienated? But,the bottom line is, each of us needs to reflect a bit and ask, what is it we want out of BP? Personally, I want to keep informed about Buckeye football. But, I also want to be able to spout off about stuff in some form of reasoned debate. That said, I also like to inject what I consider comedy where appropriate, and I probably sometimes over do it. Sorry for the tangent. What I'm getting at is, and Clarity mentioned it on his announcement, let's not become what we purport to hate. Maybe I'm overreacting, or even overstepping my bounds, but it seems to me that something needed to be said before things get out of hand with this PCP and BKA stuff.
Again, in my mind it's been about some on-line forum fun, nothing more, nothing less. I don't think "membership" in either of these "groups" has any real relevance to anything. That Clarity would allow it in the first place (and I say "allow" attempting to be devoid of identifying Clar as some kind of dictator) is what makes this place a great place to post. Let's not lose sight of that. BP is a great opportunity for us to exchange ideas about a great many things. I don't think it's wise to begin engaging in some kind of fake war for superiority as to what direction this site will go. This site will only go one direction, and that is the direction that it was built to go. The whole concept of "self policing" is key. I think that's why Di started the BKA thing. He's policing what he sees as detrimental to the point of this board. And, I can't say he's off base.
Or, maybe Di really does want some kind of factions - I just seriously doubt it. On-line behavior is a microcosm of reality. There will be problems of this type - click v. click or whatever. But, if we - BPers - are to achieve Clarity's dream of having an online community devoted to open discussion and one that doesn't become exclusive or censoring (i.e. BN), I think we need to bear in mind, the behavior between PCP and BKA is potentially disasterous. I don't want this place lost, I know Clarity doesn't, and I doubt anyone reading this thread does. Indeed, if your here at all, and you disagree, you should get the fuck out right now.
Again, maybe I'm out of line, and maybe I am making the wrong conclusion or estimation of what's going on here, but I thought something needed to be said before it gets out of hand. I mean, ultimately - played out to its end, if we indeed had two groups, one would lobby Clarity to start banning members of the other, and I don't think anyone wants this to be the case. So, again, ask yourself, why are you on this board? Is it some statement regarding your personality? Or is it a place to go, talk to other people about subjects you enjoy, most notably Buckeye football?