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A few quick responses from reading the last 5 pages:

Directv will have the HD games once the new satellite goes live. The projected date is Sept. 16th, some HD channels may appear before this date.
If your cable company did not show the game in HD, it's not BTN fault it's your cable company.
This game would not have been shown on ESPN-HD as someone complained about it being on BTN. The Michigan game was the BTN's first choice this week.
Without BTN all games shown this week would of been regional games only on ESPN Plus (non-HD)
 
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Dispatch

Commentary
Big Ten talks good game while picking pockets

Tuesday, September 4, 2007 3:22 AM
By michael arace



Lloyd Carr spent one of his last days as Michigan coach taping an advertisement for the Big Ten Network. He urged "True Blue" fans to demand their local cable outfits pick up BTN so they can pay to see games once televised for free.

Carr has made millions of dollars off the backs of unpaid athletes at a publicly funded institution, making him the perfect pitchman.
With a thespian's flair for irony, he did everything in his power to sell the network when Michigan lost to Appalachian State on Saturday. It was arguably the biggest upset in college football history, available only on the Big Ten Network.

Continued....
 
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Cincinnatibuck;919884; said:
A few quick responses from reading the last 5 pages:

Directv will have the HD games once the new satellite goes live. The projected date is Sept. 16th, some HD channels may appear before this date.
If your cable company did not show the game in HD, it's not BTN fault it's your cable company.
This game would not have been shown on ESPN-HD as someone complained about it being on BTN. The Michigan game was the BTN's first choice this week.
Without BTN all games shown this week would of been regional games only on ESPN Plus (non-HD)
they would have been available on Gameplan though....
 
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MaxBuck;919049; said:
Like it or not, this is a niche product, and niche products do not wind up on basic cable.
My basic cable lineup:

2 WSFJ Newark, Ohio (GTN)
3 AmericanLife TV Network
4 WCMH Columbus, Ohio. (NBC)
5 TV Guide Channel
6 WSYX Columbus, Ohio. (ABC)
7 WOSU Columbus, Ohio. (PBS)
8 WTTE Columbus, Ohio. (FOX)
9 Community Information
10 WBNS Columbus, Ohio. (CBS)
11 AZN Television
12 TLC
13 WWHO Columbus, Ohio (CW)
14 C-SPAN 2
15 WUAB Lorain, Ohio. (MyNetwork)
16 Superstation WGN
17 TBS
18 QVC
19 Shop NBC
20 The History Channel
21 Public Access
22 C-SPAN
23 Hallmark Channel
24 Time Warner Connection/Sport!TV
25 Educational Access
26 Local Weather Radar
27 CNN Headline News

That's 26 channels. I watch 6 of them, and one of those (The History Channel) is most certainly a niche product.

The fact is: 80% of what we're already getting is niche product, and there's no guarantee we would've gotten these games "for free" before the BTN came about, either. Surely we haven't all forgotten the Indiana/ESPNU/Time Warner fiasco last year?

It runs both ways. BTN is to blame for wanting to be in a basic tier. Cable Co's are to blame for having tier platform to begin with.

I have Time Warner. Basic, Extended, plus Road Runner runs me $89.95 a month. That means in this decade, I've paid out nearly $10,000 to TW for cable and Internet. Do I call to complain about my channel selection? Do I call and ask them to remove We, Oxygen, three CSPANS, 12 24-hour news networks, two MTVs, VH-1, four shopping channels, BET, AZN, and all the other crap I don't watch?

No. I don't do that. You probably don't do that, either. We're the ones to blame here. It's a broken business model, and we should've demanded it be fixed 25 years ago when it was conceived.
 
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Dryden;920126; said:
That's 26 channels. I watch 6 of them, and one of those (The History Channel) is most certainly a niche product.

The fact is: 80% of what we're already getting is niche product, and there's no guarantee we would've gotten these games "for free" before the BTN came about, either. Surely we haven't all forgotten the Indiana/ESPNU/Time Warner fiasco last year?

It runs both ways. BTN is to blame for wanting to be in a basic tier. Cable Co's are to blame for having tier platform to begin with.

I have Time Warner. Basic, Extended, plus Road Runner runs me $89.95 a month. That means in this decade, I've paid out nearly $10,000 to TW for cable and Internet. Do I call to complain about my channel selection? Do I call and ask them to remove We, Oxygen, three CSPANS, 12 24-hour news networks, two MTVs, VH-1, four shopping channels, BET, AZN, and all the other crap I don't watch?

No. I don't do that. You probably don't do that, either. We're the ones to blame here. It's a broken business model, and we should've demanded it be fixed 25 years ago when it was conceived.

Actually, the BTN is only asking for expanded basic, which for Time Warner is their standard package (74 channels), most of which is niche programming.

Big Ten Network
 
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Dryden;920126; said:
My basic cable lineup:

2 WSFJ Newark, Ohio (GTN)
3 AmericanLife TV Network
4 WCMH Columbus, Ohio. (NBC)
5 TV Guide Channel
6 WSYX Columbus, Ohio. (ABC)
7 WOSU Columbus, Ohio. (PBS)
8 WTTE Columbus, Ohio. (FOX)
9 Community Information
10 WBNS Columbus, Ohio. (CBS)
11 AZN Television
12 TLC
13 WWHO Columbus, Ohio (CW)
14 C-SPAN 2
15 WUAB Lorain, Ohio. (MyNetwork)
16 Superstation WGN
17 TBS
18 QVC
19 Shop NBC
20 The History Channel
21 Public Access
22 C-SPAN
23 Hallmark Channel
24 Time Warner Connection/Sport!TV
25 Educational Access
26 Local Weather Radar
27 CNN Headline News

That's 26 channels. I watch 6 of them, and one of those (The History Channel) is most certainly a niche product.

The fact is: 80% of what we're already getting is niche product, and there's no guarantee we would've gotten these games "for free" before the BTN came about, either. Surely we haven't all forgotten the Indiana/ESPNU/Time Warner fiasco last year?

It runs both ways. BTN is to blame for wanting to be in a basic tier. Cable Co's are to blame for having tier platform to begin with.

I have Time Warner. Basic, Extended, plus Road Runner runs me $89.95 a month. That means in this decade, I've paid out nearly $10,000 to TW for cable and Internet. Do I call to complain about my channel selection? Do I call and ask them to remove We, Oxygen, three CSPANS, 12 24-hour news networks, two MTVs, VH-1, four shopping channels, BET, AZN, and all the other crap I don't watch?

No. I don't do that. You probably don't do that, either. We're the ones to blame here.
It's a broken business model, and we should've demanded it be fixed 25 years ago when it was conceived.

When I called TW 3 weeks ago for digital service, I also stated that I wanted BTN. Knwoing the deflection, I beat the service rep to the punch, basically told her what she was supposed to say to me, and promptly proceeded to bitch about the crap channels (like the ones you listed) that I don't watch and since TW cares so much about me, as a customer, why should me...the customer...be forced to pay for those channels that I don't want. They haven't yet trained their reps on how to deflect that one. So, you are probably correct that we don't call and complain about the vast quantity of shit that we have to subscribe to, and pay for, as she had no deflection when I did complain about it.

For the record, it has been stated many times that there is enough blame to go around between BTN and cable companies, that all parties involved are too greedy, which I do not disagree with, but for me, the truly evil entity in all of this, the one who satan himself admires is Rupert Murdoch.
 
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Why no half time show televised?

We watched Saturday's game at the Winking Lizard, which has Direct TV. I couldn't believe that the BTN did not show ANY of the half time show for either the OSU or UM games. Instead, they showed the usual studio blabber stuff. Not even a glimpse of the Alumni Band Script Ohios.

I guess I can sorta understand why the real networks don't show the shows, but what's the excuse for the BTN network not wanting to cover them?
 
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Zippercat;920454; said:
We watched Saturday's game at the Winking Lizard, which has Direct TV. I couldn't believe that the BTN did not show ANY of the half time show for either the OSU or UM games. Instead, they showed the usual studio blabber stuff. Not even a glimpse of the Alumni Band Script Ohios.

I guess I can sorta understand why the real networks don't show the shows, but what's the excuse for the BTN network not wanting to cover them?
M O N E Y
 
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We watched Saturday's game at the Winking Lizard, which has Direct TV. I couldn't believe that the BTN did not show ANY of the half time show for either the OSU or UM games. Instead, they showed the usual studio blabber stuff. Not even a glimpse of the Alumni Band Script Ohios.

That's an excellent point. If they are going to push VBall, Softball, Soccer, etc to give us a balanced Big Ten experience why not create a new model for CFB and show the entire experience?
 
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Just wanted to put in my 2 cents....

I got DTV installed Saturday 2 hours before kickoff. It's the best decision I've made in awhile. I only got it for the Buckeye games, but the picture is 300% clearer than Comcast cable and you get so much more.

And, without the bundle and all their bull crap fees, I'm paying almost $30 less a month for phone internet and TV. Comcast gave me internet alone for $33 and we got an internet phone for $90/year.

Anyway, do it. Switch. It's so much better.
 
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suza271;920564; said:
Just wanted to put in my 2 cents....

I got DTV installed Saturday 2 hours before kickoff. It's the best decision I've made in awhile. I only got it for the Buckeye games, but the picture is 300% clearer than Comcast cable and you get so much more.

And, without the bundle and all their bull crap fees, I'm paying almost $30 less a month for phone internet and TV. Comcast gave me internet alone for $33 and we got an internet phone for $90/year.

Anyway, do it. Switch. It's so much better.

I love Directv, but some people don't have a clear view of the sky due to trees and buildings, also, in really harsh weather you can get knocked out. I live in Southern California, where the weather is probably the best in the country and have had a few storms take me out for a few minutes at a time. I would hate to imagine that in a snow storm.
 
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