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Big Ten Commissioner Jim .. umm .. Delany (official thread)

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ORD_Buckeye said:
But they don't generate billions of dollars for other people. Net profitability for all combined FBS college athletic departments--and to a lesser extent--even the football programs alone is negative. Only a minority schools operate their football programs in the black and only a sliver of that number operate their entire athletic departments in the black.

You want to pay these guys, fine. But then they get NOTHING else. Their tuition comes out of their paychecks. The whole charade of tutoring and "success centers" is shut down, they want to be "employees" "working their way through school" then fine. They can do it just like I did. And, they apply to the university on the same basis as every other student. Mr. 5* linebacker doesn't have a 28 or 29 on his ACT. Enjoy Kent State, motherhoker.
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As soon as Mark Emmett donates his $1.7 million salary to the general scholarship fund, I'll agree with. you
 
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Special interview with Jim Delany tonight on BTN at 7:30 on heels of COP/C statement for B1G reforms.

http://btn.com/2014/06/24/big-ten-presidents-chancellors-on-obannon-trial/

This is why we propose working within the NCAA to provide greater academic security and success for our student-athletes:
  • We must guarantee the four-year scholarships that we offer. If a student-athlete is no longer able to compete, for whatever reason, there should be zero impact on our commitment as universities to deliver an undergraduate education. We want our students to graduate.
  • If a student-athlete leaves for a pro career before graduating, the guarantee of a scholarship remains firm. Whether a professional career materializes, and regardless of its length, we will honor a student’s scholarship when his or her playing days are over. Again, we want students to graduate.
  • We must review our rules and provide improved, consistent medical insurance for student-athletes. We have an obligation to protect their health and well-being in return for the physical demands placed upon them.
  • We must do whatever it takes to ensure that student-athlete scholarships cover the full cost of a college education, as defined by the federal government. That definition is intended to cover what it actually costs to attend college.
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Really liked what Jim had to say, and actually agreed with his approach on comparing athletics/athletes to performance arts. As someone who self-identified as a musician during HS and college (and really, my life was more about music than my other classes, they were just other crap I had to do to continue music), I found that comparison and how he articulated it very apt.
 
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Dryden said:
Special interview with Jim Delany tonight on BTN at 7:30 on heels of COP/C statement for B1G reforms.

http://btn.com/2014/06/24/big-ten-presidents-chancellors-on-obannon-trial/
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Re: If a student-athlete leaves for a pro career before graduating, the guarantee of a scholarship remains firm. Whether a professional career materializes, and regardless of its length, we will honor a student’s scholarship when his or her playing days are over. Again, we want students to graduate.

I absolutely do not agree with that one. If a player willing leaves school to pursue a professional career; I don't think the school should have any more obligation to provide financial aid to continue his/her education after their pro career is over. The 4 year athletic scholarship "contract" should be a 2 way street; if the athletic willing leaves school to pursue a professional career before he or she graduates, they broke the contract. In that case there shouldn't be any future obligation on the schools part to fund the athlete's academics if at some time in the future the athlete decides he/she wants to return to school to pursue a degree. Now if a player has to (willingly) leave school for some reason such as a personal and/or immediate family accident/illness and wants to return after a "full recovery", etc.; then in cases like that the scholarship should remain firm.
 
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ScriptOhio said:
Re: If a student-athlete leaves for a pro career before graduating, the guarantee of a scholarship remains firm. Whether a professional career materializes, and regardless of its length, we will honor a student’s scholarship when his or her playing days are over. Again, we want students to graduate.

I absolutely do not agree with that one. If a player willing leaves school to pursue a professional career; I don't think the school should have any more obligation to provide financial aid to continue his/her education after their pro career is over. The 4 year athletic scholarship "contract" should be a 2 way street; if the athletic willing leaves school to pursue a professional career before he or she graduates, they broke the contract. In that case there shouldn't be any future obligation on the schools part to fund the athlete's academics if at some time in the future the athlete decides he/she wants to return to school to pursue a degree. Now if a player has to (willingly) leave school for some reason such as a personal and/or immediate family accident/illness and wants to return after a "full recovery", etc.; then in cases like that the scholarship should remain firm.
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I'm really starting to think scholarships need to be reduced or go away entirely. Ed O'Bannon's lawsuit is the end of college sports as we know it. Hope he's happy in his bitterness for not being good enough to last in the NBA by ruining it for literally thousands of D-1A athletes.
 
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ScriptOhio said:
Re: If a student-athlete leaves for a pro career before graduating, the guarantee of a scholarship remains firm. Whether a professional career materializes, and regardless of its length, we will honor a student’s scholarship when his or her playing days are over. Again, we want students to graduate.

I absolutely do not agree with that one. If a player willing leaves school to pursue a professional career; I don't think the school should have any more obligation to provide financial aid to continue his/her education after their pro career is over. The 4 year athletic scholarship "contract" should be a 2 way street; if the athletic willing leaves school to pursue a professional career before he or she graduates, they broke the contract. In that case there shouldn't be any future obligation on the schools part to fund the athlete's academics if at some time in the future the athlete decides he/she wants to return to school to pursue a degree. Now if a player has to (willingly) leave school for some reason such as a personal and/or immediate family accident/illness and wants to return after a "full recovery", etc.; then in cases like that the scholarship should remain firm.
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Ohio St has already had this for years though. Clark Kellogg, Mike Doss, RJ Umberger, and Katie Smith are all examples of athletes that abandoned undergrad to go pro and came back to OSU to finish their degrees for free.
 
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ScriptOhio said:
Re: If a student-athlete leaves for a pro career before graduating, the guarantee of a scholarship remains firm. Whether a professional career materializes, and regardless of its length, we will honor a student’s scholarship when his or her playing days are over. Again, we want students to graduate.

I absolutely do not agree with that one. If a player willing leaves school to pursue a professional career; I don't think the school should have any more obligation to provide financial aid to continue his/her education after their pro career is over. The 4 year athletic scholarship "contract" should be a 2 way street; if the athletic willing leaves school to pursue a professional career before he or she graduates, they broke the contract. In that case there shouldn't be any future obligation on the schools part to fund the athlete's academics if at some time in the future the athlete decides he/she wants to return to school to pursue a degree. Now if a player has to (willingly) leave school for some reason such as a personal and/or immediate family accident/illness and wants to return after a "full recovery", etc.; then in cases like that the scholarship should remain firm.
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Agreed they are just throwing shit at the wall and hoping it makes the lawsuit go away.
 
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cincibuck said:
Tradition would have the Buckeyes in The Western Conference until 1936 when Chicago dropped out and the name became The Big Nine. The Big Ten name wasn't used until Michigan State joined in 1949.
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Let's kick out Rutgers, Maryland, Penn State, Nebraska, Michigan State, and Ohio State, and bring back Chicago. Put this thing back to the way it was in 1910. (Or whatever year before Ohio State joined.)
 
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Dryden said:
Ohio St has already had this for years though. Clark Kellogg, Mike Doss, RJ Umberger, and Katie Smith are all examples of athletes that abandoned undergrad to go pro and came back to OSU to finish their degrees for free.
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I really don't have any knowledge and/or facts on who has come back to earn their degree, who paid for it, and how much was paid. However, (needless to say) not knowing anything about the topic has never kept anyone else from posting on Buckeye Planet :biggrin:, so here goes.....

I would think that all four athletes you mentioned could have easily afforded to pay their own way. Each has had or was having a very successful pro career and (if they didn't waste their salaries) should have had a high 6 or 7 figure savings account. Hopefully we just paid for tuition/books and didn't cover living expenses, etc. I will say I would be more inclined to pay for Doss and Smith who only left after using up there entire 4 years of athletic eligibility than for Kellogg and Umberger who left early, etc. And YES, I'm sure there were other athletes who left early and didn't end up having a successful pro career that wanted to continue their education too.

Basically I just think Ohio State could better use the money to cover tuition expenses of other deserving students who otherwise would not be able to be in school without the assistance, etc.
 
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Script’ posted this article in the Rutgers game-thread. Reposting here because it contains this gem:

Tom Orr said:
Jim Delany is going to step down as league commissioner later this year, and receive all sorts of praise for how he modernized the league and added the Big Ten Network.

But the millstone of Rutgers is part of that legacy, too. Now, the conference he was in charge of is saddled with the Knights for the foreseeable future. Normally, you have to anger a Gypsy woman to suffer a curse this awful and long-lasting.
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