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ohiostate=life;1349989; said:
Exactly my point..So if the B10 teams are outranked in these games and yet still being picked to face these "higher" opponents, is this a sign of respect for the B10 in a world that seems convinced by ESPN and the pundits that the conference is weak...


Or is it a way of getting "Yankee Dollars" into states dependent upon tourist trade?

I'll be much happier when the notion that bowl football must be played someplace warm is replaced with the notion that games that decide the final rankings must be evenly distributed geographically. Unfortunately with the demise of the steel and auto industry, the kind of big voice that could get such a change done, I don't see this happening anytime soon,
 
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Why would any OSU fan want to see another Big 10 ass whipping in the Rose Bowl? It would seriously lower the credibility of ALL Big 10 teams and impact on just where the preseason polls put OSU at the start of next season, a major factor in how fast you rise or fall in the rest of the polls.

As for wanting Penn State fans to STFU:
1. If you don't want to read their boasting don't go their boards.
2. Are they any more outrageous in their support of THEIR team than we are of the Buckeyes?
3. Don't you expect fans of other teams to have a skewed viewpoint? Most of the posts I read on here have a Buckeye slant, as they should have, and just as a Penn State board should have a Penn State slant.
 
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cincibuck;1350351; said:
As for wanting Penn State fans to STFU:
1. If you don't want to read their boasting don't go their boards.
2. Are they any more outrageous in their support of THEIR team than we are of the Buckeyes?
3. Don't you expect fans of other teams to have a skewed viewpoint? Most of the posts I read on here have a Buckeye slant, as they should have, and just as a Penn State board should have a Penn State slant.

1. I don't go to their boards, they come here
2. Yes
3. Skewed view? Sure.
 
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I like our chances against MSU and I don't think Ringer's play can be compared to Tech's 3 headed monster.

I'd be anxious to hear some well reasoned analysis of Michigan State. I remember watching the opening kickoff of the OSU/MSU game, turning to Food Network quickly to admire Giada de Laurantis cans and when I flipped back it was a blowout already.

From what I'm hearing about Sparty, the scouting report is as follows:

Brian Hoyer - throws a good ball but often times into the opponents arms. Loves getting sacked, not mobile at all. Probably on drugs.

Ringer - definite 1st round draft pick. Great downhill runner who has excelled despite an average O-line. Still hasn't figured out the cheat code to Contra on the NES.

Dantonio - brought much needed discipline to a struggling program. Will turn Sparty into a consistently competative team. Probably a year or two away from challanging for the Big 10 title. Has a pathological fear of hamsters.


Anything else to add? I'm sure I'll be fucked in half drunk watching this game with friends in Chicago. If you see a wasted UGA fan at Duffy's on Diversey - come by a say "hi"
 
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Ohio State (10) vs. Texas (3) - Ohio State close.
Penn State (8) vs. USC (5) - USC BIG.
M*ch*g*n State (18) vs. Georgia (15) - MSU close.
Iowa (26) vs. South Carolina (39) - Iowa comfortably.
Northwestern (22) vs. Missouri (25) - Missouri comfortably.
Wisconsin (41) vs. Florida State (28) - FSU BIG.

Those are my picks right now, though I could certainly see Northwestern jumping up and nipping Missouri. NW can score points and Mizzou can't stop anybody, so anything can happen in that one.
 
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guess im a little less optimistic than jlb. i was really hoping tOSU would skip the bcs this year and get a shot at a team like georgia but that didn't happen. right now this lineup looks to me like it will go a little like this:

OhioState (10) vs. Texas (3) - texas close
PennState (8) vs. USC (5) - usc not even remotely close
MichiganState (18) vs. Georgia (15) - 50/50 georgia very close
Iowa (26) vs. South Carolina (39) - iowa
Northwestern (22) vs. Missouri (25) - missouri
Wisconsin (41) vs. FloridaState (28) - fsu

imo texas should be playing for the nc. while i don't have an issue with ou playing, texas to me had a better season including its lone loss. as much as i love the direction tOSU is going they just aren't nc caliber just yet. i could certainly see tOSU pull off a win, but i can't see them as anything but underdogs and i believe that to be warranted.

usc might be the best team in the nation. if they didn't play a weak ass schedule they would be playing in the nc no question about it.

scum lite to me is far too one dimensional for this game and its going to bite them. georgia is going to load the box, scum lite won't be able to run and a turnover will lead to a close georgia win.

iowa though not being very good should be plenty good enough to beat the cocks soundly.

missouri will put a hurting on a nw team that has overachieved this year.

when the hell did wisky win 6 games? i demand a recount!

this looks like it will be a tough bowl season for the big 10. i would be very happy to walk away with 3-3. though this could very easily turn into 1-5. if tOSU doesn't get a bcs bowl, the bowl match ups tend to get a little less one sided:


PennState (8) vs. USC (5)
OhioState (10) vs. Georgia (15)
MichiganState (18) South Carolina (39)
Iowa (26) vs. vs. Missouri (25) -
Northwestern (22) vs. FloridaState (28)
Wisconsin (41) vs. ... maybe they could play cal poly again?

the only lopsided game would be scum lite vrs south carolina. but honestly while i see scum lite winning that game, with their style of play i don't see it by a large margin.
 
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martinss01;1350443; said:
usc might be the best team in the nation. if they didn't play a weak ass schedule they would be playing in the nc no question about it. .
Weak Schedule? 10 years ago you would have looked at a schedule with UVA, OSU and Notre Dame on it and thought they had a tough road to slog through. UVA turned out to be way too Cavalier, the Bucks were disorganized and the game looked way too easy and Notre Dame was still trying to wake up the echoes.

this looks like it will be a tough bowl season for the big 10. i would be very happy to walk away with 3-3. though this could very easily turn into 1-

Sadly I agree.
 
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BigWoof31;1350359; said:
I like our chances against MSU and I don't think Ringer's play can be compared to Tech's 3 headed monster.

I'd be anxious to hear some well reasoned analysis of Michigan State. I remember watching the opening kickoff of the OSU/MSU game, turning to Food Network quickly to admire Giada de Laurantis cans and when I flipped back it was a blowout already.

From what I'm hearing about Sparty, the scouting report is as follows:

Brian Hoyer - throws a good ball but often times into the opponents arms. Loves getting sacked, not mobile at all. Probably on drugs.

Ringer - definite 1st round draft pick. Great downhill runner who has excelled despite an average O-line. Still hasn't figured out the cheat code to Contra on the NES.

Dantonio - brought much needed discipline to a struggling program. Will turn Sparty into a consistently competative team. Probably a year or two away from challanging for the Big 10 title. Has a pathological fear of hamsters.


Anything else to add? I'm sure I'll be [censored]ed in half drunk watching this game with friends in Chicago. If you see a wasted UGA fan at Duffy's on Diversey - come by a say "hi"

The bold just about sums it up.
 
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BigWoof31;1350359; said:
I like our chances against MSU and I don't think Ringer's play can be compared to Tech's 3 headed monster.

I'd be anxious to hear some well reasoned analysis of Michigan State. I remember watching the opening kickoff of the OSU/MSU game, turning to Food Network quickly to admire Giada de Laurantis cans and when I flipped back it was a blowout already.

You actually turned away? :p

giada_tomato.jpg
 
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Ohio State (10) vs. Texas (3)
- Texas, close-ish.

Penn State (8) vs. USC (5)
- USC, close game.

Michigan State (18) vs. Georgia (15)
- MSU, very close one.

Iowa (26) vs. South Carolina (39)
- South Carolina, close-ish.

Northwestern (22) vs. Missouri (25)
- Prison rape alert. Missouri by at least five touchdowns.

Wisconsin (41) vs. Florida State (28)
- FSU, close-ish.

Dantonio - brought much needed discipline to a struggling program. Will turn Sparty into a consistently competative team. Probably a year or two away from challanging for the Big 10 title. Has a pathological fear of hamsters.
Hamsters piss him off. So do cardboard boxes, Ford Tauruses, the sun, and pennies. And apparently, the color green, because he seems to spend every waking hour and most sleeping hours angry. I am not convinced Dantonio will bring Sparty back to competitiveness, but I am not convinced he won't, either. That's already a step up from JLS, who convinced me he wouldn't bring Sparty anywhere the day he was hired. But Dantonio is the sourest coach in all of football.
 
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ohiostate=life;1349971; said:
Scanning the matchups as they appear on a ranking basis, not many games are advantageous for the Big10.

Ohio State (10) vs. Texas (3)
Penn State (8) vs. USC (5)
Michigan State (18) vs. Georgia (15)
Iowa (26) vs. South Carolina (39)
Northwestern (22) vs. Missouri (25)
Wisconsin (41) vs. Florida State (28)

We continually end up lower seeded in part because we keep putting two teams in the BCS, bumping up all of our matchups a level. It's not a conspiracy, it's butts in the seats and the hotels.

That said, I'm not as intimidated by these matchups as others seem to be.

OSU-TEX: recent history suggests the team with the more experienced QB will win. Unfortunately, that's not us this time but I concede nothing. Texas feels slighted even being in this game. We'll see.

PSU-USC: We wasted an opportunity versus PSU, but as it turns out I'm okay with it. I wasn't interested in playing USC 3 times in 12 months, anyway. (I don't want to play anyone 3 times in 12 months) Let PSU get whupped, IF they do, but if their defense shows up this isn't the USC offensive machine of the past.

MSU-UGA: Forget UGA's preseason ranking. Who have they beat? South Carolina? Arizona State? Georgia Tech ran wild on them. Georgia Tech didn't run wild on everyone, go look at their sked. If Hoyer doesn't hand them the game MSU can run Ringer into the ground and have a shot.

IOWA-SC: I think Iowa will handle the Cocks. (have at it) The Hawks lost 4 games by 12 points. SC struggles to score most of the time. They lost at home to LSU. They can definitely be had.

NW-MIZZ: Mizzou has one of the worst defenses in the country. Juice Williams looked like Andre Ware in his prime against them, putting up 42 points. 40, 56, 62 points allowed - Daniel will score and need to score. Mizzou's best win was Nebraska. NW won at Iowa. Penn State didn't.

WISC-FSU: FSU got stuffed at home by Wake Forest and Boston College. Wiscy was beat up late in the year and should have some guys back. The Noles still don't have a QB.

MIN-KAN: Insight Bowl hasn't been to good to us - remember Indiana last year? How about Glen Mason's last game? Minny's beat up WR - who was leading the Big Ten when he got hurt - should be back. Kansas stumbled late before winning a rivalry shootout against the sieve called the Missouri defense. Not a great matchup, all things considered but Minny won 1 game last year. Kansas won a BCS game last year. The Jayhawks SHOULD win.

The travel will always be there because of where we are - it can't be an excuse with weeks to plan for it. Maybe we won't do well but I see no reason to assume doom and gloom when I look at these games. Let's play!
 
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Jake;1351818; said:
We continually end up lower seeded in part because we keep putting two teams in the BCS, bumping up all of our matchups a level. It's not a conspiracy, it's butts in the seats and the hotels.
I don't buy the theory. All of the matchups but two are against the Big 12 and SEC, which also put two teams in the BCS. One that isn't is Big Ten champ vs. Pac-10 champ. Probably the only one where that applies is Wiscy/FSU, and there, you're right: butts in the seats is the thing, with that game being in Florida.
 
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