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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%

  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%

  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%

  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%

  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%

  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%

  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%

  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%

  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%

  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%

  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%

  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%

  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%

  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%

  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%

  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%

  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%

  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%

  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%

  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%
  • Total voters
    313
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Buckeye737;1984329; said:
Think of it this way - at 33K enrollment, they must have about 8K per graduating class. 250K total alumni with 8K per class = over 30 years of alums. Assuming the school has grown and my numbers being very much estimated, that would explain why that figure doesn't come out to around 50 years of alums.
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I feel stupid. I was thinking of 33k graduating all at once.
 
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My perfect expansion remains unchanged... ND for a nation-wide impact... then an eastern expansion to appease our pussycat friends and tap into the really untouched east coast football market of DC/Balt with UMD/VT/UVA... all solid academically and each having a couple of traditionally powerhouse sports programs
 
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New poll.

1st choice: I like to see Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, & Missouri. That takes the remaining "cream of the (leftover) crop" from ther Big XII.

2nd choice: If you can't get Texas and Oklahoma, just get Missouri (large populated state and decent academics) from the Big XII. Based on prior reports Missouri would give their left nut to get into the BIG; however, who really wants their left nut. Then go East with Maryland, Virginia, and Rutgers.

Screw Notre Dame.

Adding UConn, Syracuse and/or BC would only improve the BIG hockey conference.
 
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ScriptOhio;1984516; said:
1st choice: I like to see Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, & Missouri. That takes the remaining "cream of the (leftover) crop" from ther Big XII.

2nd choice: If you can't get Texas and Oklahoma, just get Missouri (large populated state and decent academics) from the Big XII. Based on prior reports Missouri would give their left nut to get into the BIG; however, who really wants their left nut. Then go East with Maryland, Virginia, and Rutgers.

Screw Notre Dame.

Adding UConn, Syracuse and/or BC would only improve the BIG hockey conference.
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I'm curious what Delaney is doing, because all the talk is of Missouri going to the SEC and we would probably, due to their little pupply love infatuations, have to act quickly to get them, and then get the ball rolling.

I personally want to move east. Maybe I am biased. But here in NYC the Big Ten is HUGE. Visit Texas or Oklahoma and find a fan. I know we need to expand markets, but it should be this way. Keep one or two from the near midwest, like Missouri, then go east. Get Notre Dame for the big program add. I realize new fan base areas are also important, but I would rather keep our identity, which rests more with the east.

Hmm. I'm realizing how partial I am being here. I went to Oklahoma City during a big interstate rival game one year (very cool to see-- garages painted two different colors for "intermarried" people, etc.) and Oklahoma is probably more like most of the midwest. It is an urban/rural thing perhaps . . .
 
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If Jim Delaney called me and asked me who should he go after, of course I'd say Texas, Oklahoma, ND, and Va. Tech.

Realistically, I'd like Mizzou, Ga. Tech, Kansas, and Maryland (if they agree to scrap those jerseys...seriously. That HAS to be in the contract.)

With all of that bullshit said, I'd like to stay at 12. There's really only 1 school that has the total package in my IMO, and that's Ga. Tech.
 
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1. Notre Dame, because they are still Notre Dame.

2 & 3. Missouri and Kansas, because they fit the Midwest, flagship, AAU, research profile.

4. Maryland - also fits the flagship, AAU, research profile, and expands the footprint into the East Coast.
 
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Before you list Okie and Texas, remember how far they are from the rest of the conference. I'm not sure Texas would like to travel across the country for all of their away conference games. Okie is slightly closer but their closest away game would still be over 300 miles away.
 
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As far as expanding media markets, and this is purely anecdotal:

I work with only a few college football fans: one from BC, one from Maryland, and one from UConn.

The BC guy is totally into it. Reads message boards, etc. His college friends are rabid too. But it is a small school. The Maryland guy regularly reads everything about the sport, but he doesn't attend or watch games. The UConn guy vaguely knows what is going on.

It isn't just the size of the new market, it is the fans.
 
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I went with:

ND - market value
Maryland - Baltimore and DC, solid academics
Georgia Tech - Atlanta and solid academics
Mizzou (but I could easily go with BC or Virginia, also)

I'd rather add both Md and GT than do a Mizzou/Kansas combo.
 
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I based my picks on schools that would be good long-time members of the Big Ten as geographic and cultural fits with at least decent academics and some consideration for $.

Kansas - Basketball is a fraction of the $ brought in by football, but basketball can also be a huge driver for BTN demand. I'm sure Kansas would be a grateful member of the B10 for years. Decent academics which could be raised with CIC affiliation.

Missouri - Should be a grateful member of the B10 for years to come. They bring in enough $ to pay their own way. Academics are decent and could become better in the CIC.

Rutgers - Even having BTN on basic cable in NJ would pay Rutgers' way into the conference. Good recruiting base and should be a happy member of the conference. They also have the potential to have some strong sports teams if they keep their homegrown talent. Pretty strong academics.

Pittsburgh - Pretty strong academics, geographic fit (obviously), and should be thrilled to be in the B10. I think Pitt brings in more $ than given credit. They have good ratings for football and move the needle in basketball. They shouldn't add any BTN subscribers in Pennsylvania, but their demand coupled with PSU might drive a higher subscription rate.

I would put Maryland over Pitt, but I'd actually hate to see more long conferences affiliations go down the drain. Hopefully the ACC stays in tact.
 
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BB73;1984557; said:
I went with:

ND - market value
Maryland - Baltimore and DC, solid academics
Georgia Tech - Atlanta and solid academics
Mizzou (but I could easily go with BC or Virginia, also)

I'd rather add both Md and GT than do a Mizzou/Kansas combo.
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I reluctantly chose Maryland as well, but has anyone here had experience with their fans? They only care to read that their team did well. I have a coworker from there and an ex from there. Also, I had a case there and went to Baltimore way too many times. My colleague was a wimp and I had to do the late night runs for toothbrushes and stuff, half hour walks away in every direction. It is a nightmare of a town with horrible people everywhere. I despise no town in this nation more than Baltimore. People tried to mug me (unsuccessfully) etc. a couple times. It is a pool of crap.
 
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kinch;1984581; said:
I reluctantly chose Maryland as well, but has anyone here had experience with their fans? They only care to read that their team did well. I have a coworker from there and an ex from there. Also, I had a case there and went to Baltimore way too many times. My colleague was a wimp and I had to do the late night runs for toothbrushes and stuff, half hour walks away in every direction. It is a nightmare of a town with horrible people everywhere. I despise no town in this nation more than Baltimore. People tried to mug me (unsuccessfully) etc. a couple times. It is a pool of crap.
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I grew up 20 minutes from campus... DC cares about the Redskins... BUT, there is a large number of college football starved fans, these just don;t see Maryland as an option... Many pick up VT as their college team of choice cause the Terps just don't get the play... I think being in the B1G, in a conference that actually seems to care about football, that would change drastically... BUT, I think pairing MD with VT and UVA would make the transition much smoother... then you have a eastern quadrant of PSU/MD/VT/UVA, I like that idea and think it would be the best way for the B1G to crash the east coast market

oh, and UMD is in College Park near DC... Baltimore is an awful city outside the Inner Harbor. Why anybody would want to live there is beyond me... I only went there to go to O's games and the aquarium
 
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