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Better line up of coaches in any conference?

Jaxbuck;1026356; said:
B12 has Stoops and Mack Brown, jury is still out on Pellini as a HC. I think Leach is a true offensive genius at Tech. Thats a solid 4.

Let Bo coach one game before you put him up there will ya?:biggrin:

Pac 10 has Peety, Dennis Erickson, Bellotti(sp) a Stoops and Ty. UCLA is TBD but thats a pretty solid lineup using the same standards.

Again, win your conference before you make the list

ACC you have to give B Bowden his due if you are going to do the same for Paterno. Butch Davis has proven his worth, Beamer is a national name.

I DO NOT have to give that liver spotted phony from the Clown College any due:biggrin: (sorry FSUbill - it just came out)

BE has Schiano, R Rod and the USF coach(name escapes me right now).

His 15 minutes of fame are up.

As with the teams I think the SEC and Big 10 are better in their mid to bottom tier coaches but all the BCS conferences can compete at the top.

yep
 
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Gatorubet;1026376; said:
Let Bo coach one game before you put him up there will ya?:biggrin:

He already has. Pelini coached Nebraska to a 17-3 win over Michigan State in the 2003 Alamo Bowl, after Solich was dumped.

How many other teams will enter next season with a coach that's won a bowl game for their school, and is undefeated as a head coach? :wink2:
 
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Gatorubet;1026335; said:
Mili - I was not trying to dis Tress, but a BCS or Division I AP title is not equal to any of the Penguins very impressive Championships. Tressel's string of championships is one of the most impressive accomplishments in coaching, and he is as of this date the best coach in America.

But all due respect, apples and oranges.

Bullshit. He took I-AA talent and won I-AA championships...he won title after title with talent commensurate with the talent of his opponents. He's now doing the same thing with I-A talent. In fact, a I-AA championship is more impressive because you win it on the field and not in the polls. You know as well as I do that teams like Ohio State, Florida, LSU, USC, etc., get the media's benefit of the doubt when rankings are concerned. How else could LSU jump 2-3 idle teams and go from #7 to #2 in BCS standings? Tressel had none of that help at YSU. IIRC, of the six times he ran through the playoffs up to the NC game, YSU was never #1 or #2 going into the playoffs, and one time, YSU was #11 going into the playoffs (may have been the same year that YSU finished third in the Gateway Conference and still won the national title).
 
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In the spirit of Christmas (and Strange Brew :biggrin:), it is obvious that my denominational (SEC and Big Ten) brothers and sisters here are overlooking the unappreciated and oft scorned Independents, who have Charlie Weis in their midst as a coach. Thus, he is superior in every way than everyone and every accomplishment combined in the history of either conference, even better and more impressive than, well...

12 Pop Warners,
11 Frank Broyles,
10 Steve Spurriers,
9 Vince Dooleys,
8 Paul Browns,
7 Heisman winners,
6 Joe Paternos,
5...Tressel...Titles.......
4 Urban Meyers,
3 Bear Bryants,
2 guys named Bo,
and a Woody Hayes in a Buckeye tree
 
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This might spark some interesting talk:


SEC COACHING RECORDS (Overall)

East
Urban Meyer 70-15-0 (.824) Florida
Steve Spurrier 156-56-2 (.734) South Carolina
Phillp Fulmer 146-45-0 (.764) Tennessee
Mark Richt 71-19-0 (.789) Georgia
Rich Brooks 113-146-4 (.437) Kentucky
Bobby Johnson 80-86-0 (.482) Vanderbilt

West
Nick Saban 98-48-1 (.670) Alabama
Les Miles 61-27-0 (.693) LSU
Houston Nutt 110-71-0 (.608) Arkansas
Tommy Tuberville 104-53-0 (.662) Auburn
Sylvester Croom 16-30-0 (.348) Mississippi State
Ed Orgeron 10-25-0 (.286) Mississippi
OR
Bobby Petrino 41-9-0 (.820) Mississippi

Totals
1035-621-7 (.624) With Ed Orgeron's W-L Record
1066-605-7 (.637) With Bobby Petrino's W-L Record



BIG 10 COACHING RECORDS (Overall)

Ron Zook 36-36-0 (.500) Illinois
Bill Lynch 88-72-3 (.549) Indiana
Kirk Ferentz 73-70-0 (.510) Iowa
Lloyd Carr 121-40-0 (.751) Michigan
Mark Dantonio 25-22-0 (.532) Michigan State
Tim Brewster 1-11-0 (.083) Minnesota
Pat Fitzgerald 10-14-0 (.417) Northwestern
Jim Tressel 208-72-2 (.741) Ohio State
Joe Paterno 371-125-3 (.746) Penn State
Joe Tiller 121-84-1 (.590) Purdue
Brent Bielama 21-4-0 (.840) Wisconsin

Totals
1075-550-9 (.661) With Lloyd Carr - No Replacement Yet
OR
1015-537-9 (.653) With Les Miles Replacing Lloyd at Michigan :)

Guess the Big10 will take a "hit" when Les takes the Michigan job ... just kidding Tiger fans ... just kidding.

I guess I'm surprised that the Big10 coaches (as a group) have a better overall win percentage than the SEC. Stunned that we have more overall wins (and less losses) especially considering 1 less coach in the conference, 1 first year coach (with 1 total win), and 1 second year coach with 10 total wins.

Most impressed with 5 SEC coaches over the 100 win mark and a 6th one soon to follow.

Lots of interesting ways to look at those numbers.
 
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Jaxbuck;1026200; said:
I'll give you Meyer, Spurrier, Miles and Satan. After that there is nothing real impressive. I don't know a single UT fan that would offer up fat Phil as a point of pride.

If you aren't impressed with what Richt has done at UGA, you're one tough critic. :wink2:

After seven years heading up the Bulldog program, Mark Richt has made it clear that winning with consistency will be a standard for years to come. In seven seasons, his Georgia teams have won two SEC Championships (2002, ?05), won three SEC Eastern Division titles and tied for another, and his 71-19 record is fourth best in the country in winning percentage among active coaches (.789). Richt was named SEC Coach of the Year in both 2002 and 2005. His record against non-conference teams is 29-2 and his teams are 25-4 when playing in an opponent?s home stadium.

He is one of only nine head coaches in Division I-A history to record 60 or more wins in his first six seasons and 70 or more wins in his first seven seasons. Richt is one of only six coaches in history to win two SEC championships (2002, 2005) in his first five years, and one of only five head coaches in SEC history to record four straight 10-win seasons (2002-05).
 
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COTiger;1026657; said:
If you aren't impressed with what Richt has done at UGA, you're one tough critic. :wink2:

Quite honestly... and, I wouldn't trade Tress for any of those guys in a million years... but.. if I had to, Richt would be the one.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1026465; said:
Bullshit. He took I-AA talent and won I-AA championships...he won title after title with talent commensurate with the talent of his opponents. He's now doing the same thing with I-A talent. In fact, a I-AA championship is more impressive because you win it on the field and not in the polls. You know as well as I do that teams like Ohio State, Florida, LSU, USC, etc., get the media's benefit of the doubt when rankings are concerned. How else could LSU jump 2-3 idle teams and go from #7 to #2 in BCS standings? Tressel had none of that help at YSU. IIRC, of the six times he ran through the playoffs up to the NC game, YSU was never #1 or #2 going into the playoffs, and one time, YSU was #11 going into the playoffs (may have been the same year that YSU finished third in the Gateway Conference and still won the national title).

No. Double bullshit on you.:biggrin: Yes, that is an undeniably impressive feat, but I am not going to give a I-AA championship the same value as a BCS one. You say that a I-AA Championship is more impressive. I don't agree. Sue me. You're just mad because we're faster.:tongue2:
 
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AKAKBUCK;1026659; said:
Quite honestly... and, I wouldn't trade Tress for any of those guys in a million years... but.. if I had to, Richt would be the one.

If Richt hadn't had too many cocktails in Jacksonville in 2002, who knows what might have happened to the mutts' BCS chances. Anyone remember who was ranked where in late October of 2002? Were y'all and Miami ahead of the poodles going into that game?
 
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Gatorubet;1026703; said:
If Richt hadn't had too many cocktails in Jacksonville in 2002, who knows what might have happened to the mutts' BCS chances. Anyone remember who was ranked where in late October of 2002? Were y'all and Miami ahead of the poodles going into that game?

Miami was ahead of Gawga for the entire season. tOSU and the Dawgs were nip and tuck in late October (Ga. actually had barely edged past tOSU just before they lost the Cocktail Party that year). But if they had finished undefeated, they probably would have ended up #2 in the BCS that year, since many media members were fond of using the letter between 'K' and 'M' instead of the first letter in Buckeyes.
 
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