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BCS Selection Procedures 2010 season/2011 Bowls (Big Ten Tiebreaker Rules)

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If you want to list your picks for the bowls, please use this BP.BCS.Picks.Contest thread.

There are 5 BCS Bowls for 10 teams. Here are the selection procedures for this year.

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The top 2 teams get places in the BCS Title game in Glendale.

The 6 champions from the AQ conferences get automatic bids. (This means that between 6 and 8 teams will have bids at this point).

The highest ranked of the 5 non-AQ conferences will get an automatic bid if it's in the BCS top-12, or if it's in the top-16 and higher than any one of the 6 AQ champions. (But only 1 non-AQ can get an automatic bid, unless they finish #1 and #2).

Notre Dame will get an automatic bid if it's in the BCS top-8.

At this point there could be anywhere from 0 to 4 spots available. If there is at least 1 spot available, the higher ranked of BCS #3 and BCS #4 gets an automatic bid if they're from an AQ Conference and not already in (but not both of them).

At this point, 0 to 4 At-Large bids may be available. Any team with at least 9 wins that is in the BCS top-14 is eligible for an at large bid (Note - USC will NOT be ranked in the BCS standings this year). However, each conference is limited to 2 BCS bids, unless their champion is not in the BCS top-2 and two other teams from the same conference are #1 and #2 (then they would get 3).

Then, bowl placement comes into play.

First, #1 and #2 get placed in the BCS Title Game.

Then the other AQ Champions are slotted into the bowl they're tied to:

ACC - Orange
B10 - Rose
Pac - Rose
B12 - Fiesta
SEC - Sugar

Then replacement picks are made by bowls that lost their champion to the BCS Title game. The Bowl that lost #1 chooses first, but they can't pick a team from the same conference as BCS #2, unless that other bowl allows it.

Note - If the Rose Bowl loses either the Big Ten or Pac Ten Champion to the Title game this year, AND if a non-AQ team gets an automatic bid (by winning their conference and being in the top-12, the Rose Bowl MUST pick that non-AQ team, such as Boise State or TCU). This rule is in place for the next 4 years, although it will need to be satisfied only once in that period). Edit - The Rose Bowl is NOT required to do this if the highest non-AQ team is already in the BCS Title game.

Then the other spots are filled with bowls choosing in this order (this year's sequence only, it rotates):

Sugar
Orange
Fiesta

So if the initial polls held, and Bama-tOSU finished 1-2, ND is NOT in the top 8, but either Boise St/TCU is in the top-12 and won their conference, here is how it would play out:

- BCS Title gets Bama
- BCS Title gets tOSU
- Orange gets whoever wins the ACC CCG
- Rose gets the Pac 10 champion, which cannot be USC
- Fiesta gets whoever wins the Big XII CCG

- Sugar gets replacement pick for Bama (can't be a Big 10 team)
- Rose is forced to select Boise St/TCU if in the top-12 (seriously)
- Sugar gets first At Large pick (this could be a Big Ten team)
- Orange gets second At Large pick (if there are 2 teams with automatic bids left, they must take 1 of them)
- Fiesta gets last pick (has to take an automatic bid team, such as the Big East Champ, if they're still available)

So if tOSU makes the title game and either Boise St/TCU/Utah/BYU gets an automatic bid by being in the top-12 (or in the top-16 if another AQ champion is below 16), then the Sugar really gets the first two actual choices, since the Rose Bowl's stuck with the non-AQ team. Which could actually be somebody like 16th ranked BYU, if that's the highest of the 5 non-AQ conference champions, and the ACC or Big East Champion is ranked below them in the BCS.
 
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BB73;1752165; said:
- Sugar gets replacement pick for Bama (can't be a Big 10 team)
- Rose is forced to select Boise St/TCU if in the top-12 (seriously)
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But the Sugar's could be a Big Ten team if the Rose Bowl if the Rose Bowl is forced to fill the slot with a Boise/TCU? The rules aren't explicitly clear on this but it would make sense.

Now obviously they are allowed to pick a Big Ten team with the next pick, but saying hypothetically that it's the Big 12 champion ranked #1 instead of Bama at the end of the year and the Fiesta Bowl had first choice, I would think the Fiesta would be allowed to select a Big Ten team with that first pick with the Rose Bowl locked on Boise/TCU
 
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DaddyBigBucks;1752193; said:
Didn't there used to be a rule that each bowl could jump ahead in the selection order once every four years? Is that rule still in effect?
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The 3 At large selections that come after the at large replacements for BCS #1 and #2 rotate each year. The Bowl site that hosts the national championship is always stuck with the last "at large" selection
 
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BigWoof31;1752212; said:
I'm confused? Based on your formula above, there is no way possible the SEC could get 2 at large bids. Obviously 3 SEC teams in the BCS is the desired result.
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Well, it's not my formula. :wink2:

And while it's not possible for the SEC to get 2 at large bids, it is possible to get 3 SEC teams in the BCS. The league just needs to have the top 2 teams in the BCS after the CCG's in early December, AND have the SEC CCG winner be a different team from those 2.

So that's what y'all want to work on.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1752247; said:
Is this thread in which I should place my BCS bowl picks?
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No, that's in the rumor mill. What's that you ask? Where is the rumor mill? Rumor has it that it's really just a group of posters who spread rumors through some other thread called, "Your (Mostly BUCKYLE'S) late night drunken thread"
 
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TGfan06;1752209; said:
Say that OSU and TCU meet in the BCS title game, and Boise is in the top 12, is the rose bowl still required to pick the broncos?
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That's a very good question.

The answer is no, since TCU is an automatic qualifier by being in the top-2, and the non-AQ teams can only get 1 automatic bid in a given year (unless they finish #1-#2), and the Rose Bowl only needs to take the non-AQ team to replace a Big Ten/Pac Ten Champ in the BCS Title Game if the non-AQ conference champion is an automatic qualifier. So they wouldn't have to take Boise State or TCU if the other one was in the BCS Title Game. Unless Boise State and TCU finish #1 and #2, the lower ranked of them would be deemed an 'At Large' team at best, even if they're BCS #3.
 
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JBaney45;1752191; said:
But the Sugar's could be a Big Ten team if the Rose Bowl if the Rose Bowl is forced to fill the slot with a Boise/TCU? The rules aren't explicitly clear on this but it would make sense.

Now obviously they are allowed to pick a Big Ten team with the next pick, but saying hypothetically that it's the Big 12 champion ranked #1 instead of Bama at the end of the year and the Fiesta Bowl had first choice, I would think the Fiesta would be allowed to select a Big Ten team with that first pick with the Rose Bowl locked on Boise/TCU
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If the Big XII team is #1, and a Big Ten team is #2 (forcing the Rose to take a non-AQ conference team from the top-12), the Sugar Bowl's first team is the SEC Champ, then the Fiesta gets a replacement pick that can't be a Big Ten team (unless the Big Ten consents to the choice). After the Fiesta's replacement pick, the SEC could take an at-large Big Ten team to face the SEC Champ.
 
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DaddyBigBucks;1752193; said:
Didn't there used to be a rule that each bowl could jump ahead in the selection order once every four years? Is that rule still in effect?
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There really isn't a "jump ahead" provision at this point, but the process does allow for things to be changed at the very end in order to avoid things such as rematches or TV rating disasters. But getting all of the bowls to agree to a matchup change would be difficult, they're all looking out for their own interests.
 
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