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BCS polls 11/14/05 (Merge)

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Saw31 said:
ummm...We make it to the #6 spot, we get an auto bid, correct?
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NO. Not correct. Only a #3 or #4 spot would guarantee us an at large BCS spot this year, and #4 is a guarantee only if the #3 spot is a conference champion.

That #6 thing is for non-BCS conference teams, like Utah last year. The #6 spot doesn't guarantee any of the BCS contenders anything this year.
 
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BB73 said:
NO. Not correct. Only a #3 or #4 spot would guarantee us an at large BCS spot this year, and #4 is a guarantee only if the #3 spot is a conference champion.

That #6 thing is for non-BCS conference teams, like Utah last year. The #6 spot doesn't guarantee any of the BCS contenders anything this year.
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BuckEyeDr said:
No. Auto bid for BCS conference team (that is not conf. champ) is 4 or higher. Top 6 clause is for independents (ND) or non-BCS conf. teams.

I'm a little late to the party I see.
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The damn tax code is easier to decipher than the BCS formula...:smash:
 
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BB73 said:
NO. Not correct. Only a #3 or #4 spot would guarantee us an at large BCS spot this year, and #4 is a guarantee only if the #3 spot is a conference champion.

That #6 thing is for non-BCS conference teams, like Utah last year. The #6 spot doesn't guarantee any of the BCS contenders anything this year.
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Well wouldnt it work out like this:

USC, Texas, Miami - wouldnt need an at large since they will get a conference bid? And if PSU beats Mich St. that as well frees up another at large bid inside the top 10? The better they do, the more chances we will get a bid because there will be more available.

Also: Today on Cold Pizza, Pat Forde was projecting OSU at #9 with ND ahead of us at #6 (assuming when its all finalized in about 2 weeks). Skip Bayless and Woody argued about the 2 loss teams - us and ND. Woody sided with ND stating that they will without a doubt get a bid because they had a fluke last play against USC and the Mich St. game went to overtime. Skippy sided with us stating that the only reason we lost the Texas game "was because Jim Tressel decided to put Jason Zwick back in the game."
 
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BuckeyePride85 said:
Well wouldnt it work out like this:

USC, Texas, Miami - wouldnt need an at large since they will get a conference bid? And if PSU beats Mich St. that as well frees up another at large bid inside the top 10? The better they do, the more chances we will get a bid because there will be more available.

Also: Today on Cold Pizza, Pat Forde was projecting OSU at #9 with ND ahead of us at #6 (assuming when its all finalized in about 2 weeks). Skip Bayless and Woody argued about the 2 loss teams - us and ND. Woody sided with ND stating that they will without a doubt get a bid because they had a fluke last play against USC and the Mich St. game went to overtime. Skippy sided with us stating that the only reason we lost the Texas game "was because Jim Tressel decided to put Jason Zwick back in the game."
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Pat Forde's predictions, if he's talking BCS rankings, seem way off.

If USC, Texas, Penn St, ND, Miami, and tOSU win out, we're in a marketing-desirability contest with VaTech and Alabama, if they still have 1 loss. If Miami only loses to Florida St. in the SEC champioship game, we have this potential problem with the #4 BCS spot, which I described in the BCS Chances thread:

Penn State beats MSU. LSU wins 2 games and goes to the CCG and loses to Georgia. Miami drops their CCG to Florida State. At that point, Bama (with a win over Auburn but not a trip to the CCG) or VaTech (with wins at Virginia and over N. Carolina but no trip to the CCG) could reach #4 in the BCS and then we're screaming because ND gets the only 'free choice at-large' bid, and West Virginia (or South Florida if they win out) gets an undeserved Big East champion spot.

So we actually want Miami and LSU to win their conference championship games. As long as either one of them wins out, the #4 scenario for Va. Tech or Alabama won't be a problem for tOSU's at large bid. This assumes that USC and Texas also win out. A Penn State loss opens up the automatic Big-10 bid for us.
 
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it seems like the big ten in general is being slammed by the coaches poll:

penn state - 4 in bcs, 5 in coaches
ohio state - 7 in bcs, 9 in coaches
michigan - 15 in bcs, 17 in coaches
wisconsin - 20 in bcs, 24 in coaches
minnesota - 21 in bcs, 27 in coaches

let's look at the acc:

miami - 3 in bcs, 3 in coaches
virginia tech - 6 in bcs, 6 in coaches
florida state - 22 in bcs, 20 in coaches
boston college - 24 in bcs, 23 in coaches

sec:

lsu - 5 in bcs, 4 in coaches
alabama - 8 in bcs, 8 in coaches
auburn - 13 in bcs, 12 in coaches
georgia - 16 in bcs, 14 in coaches
florida - 22 in bcs, 20 in coaches
south carolina - 23 in bcs, 21 in coaches

so,...

of the 7 teams in the big ten, acc, and sec that the coaches voted higher than decided in the bcs poll, not one is in the big ten.

of the 5 teams in the big ten, acc, and sec that the coaches voted lower than decided in the bcs poll, all are in the big ten. moreover, each and every big ten team ranked in the top-25 of the bcs is ranked relatively lower in the coaches poll. of course, this is obvious, based on the statistical statements in this and the last paragraph.

when you throw in sagarin's strength of schedule (e.g., psu - 8, osu - 4), it is obvious that there's something amiss here.

big ten: 8, 4, 2, 18, 9
acc: 29, 32, 63, 26
sec: 50, 78, 72, 61, 47, 46

the three computer polls (sagarin, anderson & hester, and colley matrix) that have tabulated the conferences' strength of schedules find that (no surprise) the big ten has the toughest collective schedule.

MAY EACH BIG TEN TEAM PUMMEL INTO SUBMISSION ITS BOWL GAME OPPONENT!!!

edit: michigan sucks
 
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BCSBust said:
Is there anyway we could possibly play Virginia Tech in a bowl game? Just wondering.

Thanks.
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Virginia Tech and Ohio State must both win out and Miami has to lose one of their remaining two regular season games, either to Georgia Tech or Virginia. If VT wins out, coupled with a Miami loss, VT would face FSU in the ACC title game. A win there places VT in the Orange bowl with OSU a very likely opponent with a BCS at-large berth.

If Miami wins the ACC Coastal division though there's really not any scenario that gets OSU in a bowl that VT would be eligible for. Barring any spectacular upsets, ND will get one of the BCS at-large bids, leaving only one for a conference non-champion (probably Alabama, Va Tech, or OSU).

Ohio State's most likely bowl options are:

Win over Michigan:
1. Orange Bowl vs Miami or VT
2. Fiesta Bowl vs Notre Dame
3. Capital One Bowl vs SEC #2 (potentially LSU, Georgia, Alabama, or Auburn)

Loss to Michigan:
4. Outback Bowl vs SEC #3 (probably the loser of next week's Auburn/Alabama game)
 
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Dryden said:
Ohio State's most likely bowl options are:

Win over Michigan:
1. Orange Bowl vs Miami or VT
2. Fiesta Bowl vs Notre Dame
3. Capital One Bowl vs SEC #2 (potentially LSU, Georgia, Alabama, or Auburn)

Loss to Michigan:
4. Outback Bowl vs SEC #3 (probably the loser of next week's Auburn/Alabama game)
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Very good summary Dryden. Personally, I like all of those options. I would love to match up against any of those teams. Let's kick the shit out of scUM and go to one of the big ones though!
 
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OSU_Buckguy said:
it seems like the big ten in general is being slammed by the coaches poll:...
MAY EACH BIG TEN TEAM PUMMEL INTO SUBMISSION ITS BOWL GAME OPPONENT!!!
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This is what we should see. It really irks me to hear Big Ten teams be called disappointing on the basis that they lose to one another in a very evenly matched league that dominated its OOC schedules.

We'll see what the other guys have in the bowl games! :osu3: :bigten2: :osu2:
 
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