BCS Conference Automatic Bids

[mross34]

jwinslow referenced the fact that the Big East might lose it's automatic conference bid a couple years down the road in another thread. I tried finding more information on it here, with not much success.

I snooped around the internet a bit and found that the conferences will be evaluated after the 2009 season based on their performance over the previous 4 seasons and it seams bids for the 2013 season (correct me if I'm wrong) will be added or subtracted accordingly.

Can anyone provide me with more information than this? Perhaps where the conferences currently stand during this evaluation period. Or maybe the exact rules by which they'll be judged by so I can figure it out myself.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

 

[jwinslow]

Starting point:

The conference champion of the six BCS conferences must have an average ranking of 12 or higher for a 4-year period, or the automatic selection may be revoked.

 

[jwinslow]

Looks like they're not quite there yet. If Pitt stays at 21, they'll average a 9.5. I'm not sure how they value an unranked champion, but assuming they use '26', the average would become 10.75.

#21 - Pitt - 08
...
#6 - WVU - 07
#6 - Louis - 06
#5 - WVU - 05
#21 - Boston College - 04

 

[jwinslow]

I guess it comes down to irrelevance, but this only furthers the ignorance towards the ACC's struggles. Besides the BCS bowl history, they are in jeopardy of losing their spot (though I doubt they'll ever follow thru).

Current Avg: 15

#9 - VT - 07
#18 - Wake - 06
#23 - FSU - 05
#10 - VT - 04

 

[mross34]

I thought the evaluation period was from 2006-2009.

 

[mross34]

FOX Sports on MSN - BCSFootball - BCS Selection Procedures

The champions of the Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big 10, Big 12, Pac-10 and Southeastern Conferences will have annual automatic qualification for a BCS game after the regular seasons of 2008 through 2013, based on mathematical standards of performance during the 2004-2007 regular seasons.

The 2006-2009 regular seasons will be evaluated under the same standards to determine if other conferences will have annual automatic qualification for the games after the 2012 and 2013 regular seasons. The champions of no more than seven conferences will have annual automatic berths.

If the BCS continues under the same or similar format, conferences will be evaluated on their performances during the 2010-2013 regular seasons to determine which conferences will have automatic qualification for the bowls that will conclude the 2014-2017 regular seasons.

The evaluation data includes the following for each conference (1) the ranking of the highest-ranked team in the final BCS standings each year, (2) the final regular-season rankings of all conference teams in the computer rankings used by the BCS each year and (3) the number of teams in the top 25 of the final BCS standings each year.

Conference agreements with bowls will continue. The Pac-10 and Big Ten champions will host the Rose Bowl if their teams are not in the BCS national championship game. Likewise, the Southeastern Conference champion will host the Sugar Bowl, ACC champion will host the Orange Bowl and Big 12 champion will host the Fiesta Bowl.

 

[BB73]

I posted the BCS ranking for each conference over the last 4 years yesterday, I've copied it in here.

Note - these are final BCS rankings, which come out before the bowls. But that's is what the evaluation considers.

Here are the BCS rankings for each conference's automatic bid:

Year....Big East...ACC........Big 10.....Big 12.....Pac 10....SEC........Mtn West
2004....Pitt(21)...VT..(08)...TSUN(13)...Okla(02). ..USC(01)...Aub.(03)...Utah(06)
2005....WVU.(11)...FSU.(22)...PSU.(03)...Tex.(02). ..USC(01)...UGA.(07)...xxxx(xx)
2006....Louv(06)...Wake(14)...tOSU(01)...Okla(10). ..USC(05)...Fla.(02)...xxxx(xx)
2007....WVU.(09)...VT..(03)...tOSU(01)...Okla(04). ..USC(07)...LSU.(02)...xxxx(xx)

4-yr Avg (12.25)....(12.25)......(4.5)......(4.5).....(3.5) ......(3.5)...


Note - in 2004, Louisville was 10th, but they were still in Conf-USA. Iowa was 12th, but TSUN got the auto-bid.
Note - in 2005, Miami was 8th, but FSU got the auto bid

Here are the BCS rankings for each conference's highest ranked team:

Year....Big East...ACC........Big 10.....Big 12.....Pac 10....SEC........Mtn West
2004....Pitt(21)...VT..(08)...Iowa(12)...Okla(02). ..USC(01)...Aub.(03)...Utah(06)
2005....WVU.(11)...Mia.(08)...PSU.(03)...Tex.(02). ..USC(01)...UGA.(07)...TCU.(14)
2006....Louv(06)...Wake(14)...tOSU(01)...Okla(10). ..USC(05)...Fla.(02)...BYU.(20)
2007....WVU.(09)...VT..(03)...tOSU(01)...Okla(04). ..USC(07)...LSU.(02)...BYU.(17)

4-yr Avg (12.25).....(8.25).....(4.25)......(4.5).....(3.5) ......(3.5)....(14.25)

 

[mross34]

The evaluation data includes the following for each conference (1) the ranking of the highest-ranked team in the final BCS standings each year, (2) the final regular-season rankings of all conference teams in the computer rankings used by the BCS each year and (3) the number of teams in the top 25 of the final BCS standings each year.

I can't find the final computer rankings for the BCS anywhere, only the week before. Can anyone help?

 

[BB73]

Here are the overall computer rankings that were used for the Final BCS Standings (pre-bowl) last year.

fanblogs

This is more complete:

ww.collegefootballpoll.com/pdf/bcs_120207.pdf

Here's 2006:

www.collegefootballpoll.com/pdf

Here's 2005 (scroll to the bottom):

www.collegefootballpoll.com/pdf/bcs_2005.pdf

Here's 2004 (also at the bottom)

www.collegefootballpoll.com/pdf/bcs_2004.pdf

 

[mross34]

Here are the overall computer rankings that were used for the Final BCS Standings (pre-bowl) last year.

fanblogs

Any idea where I could get more than just the top 25?

 

[BB73]

Any idea where I could get more than just the top 25?

I give, I give, and you just keep asking for more.

Are you my wife?

 

[mross34]

I give, I give, and you just keep asking for more.

Are you my wife?

Haha, I appreciate the work, Bill. I'm not just asking you though... I just want to know if anyone out there has any sources.

As you probably guessed from trivia, I'm pretty good with the internets, so it might just not be out there.

 

[methomps]

I posted the BCS ranking for each conference over the last 4 years yesterday, I've copied it in here.

Note - these are final BCS rankings, which come out before the bowls. But that's is what the evaluation considers.

Here are the BCS rankings for each conference's automatic bid:

Year....Big East...ACC........Big 10.....Big 12.....Pac 10....SEC........Mtn West
2004....Pitt(21)...VT..(08)...TSUN(13)...Okla(02). ..USC(01)...Aub.(03)...Utah(06)
2005....WVU.(11)...FSU.(22)...PSU.(03)...Tex.(02). ..USC(01)...UGA.(07)...xxxx(xx)
2006....Louv(06)...Wake(14)...tOSU(01)...Okla(10). ..USC(05)...Fla.(02)...xxxx(xx)
2007....WVU.(09)...VT..(03)...tOSU(01)...Okla(04). ..USC(07)...LSU.(02)...xxxx(xx)

4-yr Avg (12.25)....(12.25)......(4.5)......(4.5).....(3.5) ......(3.5)...


Note - in 2004, Louisville was 10th, but they were still in Conf-USA. Iowa was 12th, but TSUN got the auto-bid.
Note - in 2005, Miami was 8th, but FSU got the auto bid

Here are the BCS rankings for each conference's highest ranked team:

Year....Big East...ACC........Big 10.....Big 12.....Pac 10....SEC........Mtn West
2004....Pitt(21)...VT..(08)...Iowa(12)...Okla(02). ..USC(01)...Aub.(03)...Utah(06)
2005....WVU.(11)...Mia.(08)...PSU.(03)...Tex.(02). ..USC(01)...UGA.(07)...TCU.(14)
2006....Louv(06)...Wake(14)...tOSU(01)...Okla(10). ..USC(05)...Fla.(02)...BYU.(20)
2007....WVU.(09)...VT..(03)...tOSU(01)...Okla(04). ..USC(07)...LSU.(02)...BYU.(17)

4-yr Avg (12.25).....(8.25).....(4.25)......(4.5).....(3.5) ......(3.5)....(14.25)

I remember reading that the BCS gave the BE credit for Louisville in 2004. I don't see the BCS removing the BE's auto-bid anytime soon.

 

[BUCKYLE]

I remember reading that the BCS gave the BE credit for Louisville in 2004. I don't see the BCS removing the BE's auto-bid anytime soon.

I don't see anyones bid getting pulled, ever. Especially considering pollsters partial to a certain region are what it's based off of.

/conspiracy theory

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

How about this doomsday scenario:

Oregon State wins out = Pac10 Autobid as Pac 10 champ
Whoever of the Big XII South that wins it, goes to the Big XII championship and looses.
Florida loses to Flast, still makes it to the SEC championship, beats Alabama, but having lost to Flast, now has two losses.

Who plays for the title?

USC (at large pick) v. whoever finishes 2nd in the Big XII south (at large pick)

OR, said differently... 2 at large teams.

Will it be a good game? Probably. Will it sit easy with people to know that their National Champion couldn't win their own conference (slightly over stated in USC's case, as they would tie)? Doubt it.

Scenario came to my attention on the radio yesterday (1460), thought it might deserve some attention here.