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B1G Football: January 2021

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muffler dragon said:
Agreed.
However, for me, that depends on who's spearheading it. If it's Warren, then this is DOA.
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I don't see him as someone who spearheads anything. We already know he silo'd the ADs of his own conference when it came to fall sports.

God only knows how he's going around the winter football thing. It's very clear he either underestimated or didn't care about the backlash that was even POSSIBLE, much less likely, when it came to cancelling football and the other fall sports. Then he doubled down and didn't say anything for like a week, just to let people stew. After that, when he did put something out, it wasn't adequate in the least.

He's out of his depth. He *might* be a decent administrator but the role he's in now requires him to be a big picture guy. So far he's an abject failure in all regards in this department.
 
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Mike80 said:
It's very clear he either underestimated or didn't care about the backlash that was even POSSIBLE, much less likely, when it came to cancelling football and the other fall sports
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I'd offer that what we football fans interpret as underestimating was actually him not looking at AD's and sports fans as his stakeholders. We are irrelevant in the decision.

Chancellors and Presidents gave him a clear direction and he found a way to go make it happen.

He's an alpha administrator imo.

We're reading this through the wrong lens by and large imo.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
I'd offer that what we football fans interpret as underestimating was actually him not looking at AD's and sports fans as his stakeholders. We are irrelevant in the decision.

Chancellors and Presidents gave him a clear direction and he found a way to go make it happen.

He's an alpha administrator imo.

We're reading this through the wrong lens by and large imo.
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His job is public-facing however. He has to be accessible and he has to be the one out in front of the news cycle. He has been anything but that since this decision was rendered.

Whether or not he had his AD's or players as stakeholders (I also wouldn't view fans as stakeholders FWIW), the decision ultimately came through his office. He has to own it at this point and he has to formulate a plan to move things forward. Given the lack of planning, coordination and cohesiveness we've seen, I find it highly unlikely that any of that is happening and the whole "winter football" thing is just a carrot at the end of a string to buy time.

Part of effectively leading during a trying time is owning your message, especially once a decision was made. Not that is matters in the grand scheme of things - I don't agree with the decision (or at least the timing of it) - but had he come out, said this is what we're doing, here's the why we're doing it, and this is our message going forward, I could respect that. It hasn't happened. I don't think it will either.
 
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Mike80 said:
His job is public-facing however.
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It's a public role sure but the real job, and his incentives to do it well, are the same as every other bureaucrat who's ever lived; do what my boss deems valuable.


Whether or not he had his AD's or players as stakeholders (I also wouldn't view fans as stakeholders FWIW), the decision ultimately came through his office. He has to own it at this point and he has to formulate a plan to move things forward. Given the lack of planning, coordination and cohesiveness we've seen, I find it highly unlikely that any of that is happening and the whole "winter football" thing is just a carrot at the end of a string to buy time.
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Oh, I think he's owning it. In the sense that he's fading the heat and not his bosses. Again, I don't think he gives two shits what the sports media, fans, parents of athletes, coaches or even AD's think.

Part of effectively leading during a trying time is owning your message, especially once a decision was made. Not that is matters in the grand scheme of things - I don't agree with the decision (or at least the timing of it) - but had he come out, said this is what we're doing, here's the why we're doing it, and this is our message going forward, I could respect that. It hasn't happened. I don't think it will either.
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I don't think there is any doubt that clear communication is not going to happen. What if clear communication ran contrary to the real mission though?

Just an alternate take. Who knows for sure?

The only thing I know for sure is I still don't mind blaming this lugheaded motherfucker for all the anger I have about the season being cancelled.
 
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ScriptOhio said:
All games will be played at neutral sites, which are still to be determined (see above) and a conference championship game between the winners of the East and West divisions would take place the second weekend in March at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena, Calif. The source also said that the Pac-12 is planning for a similar “spring” season structure, which would allow the two conferences to pit their champions against each other in the Bowl game.
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If the B1G is playing their championship game in California, then the PAC-12 has to play theirs in Chicago. Fair is fair.

lol
 
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Jaxbuck said:
I'd offer that what we football fans interpret as underestimating was actually him not looking at AD's and sports fans as his stakeholders. We are irrelevant in the decision.

Chancellors and Presidents gave him a clear direction and he found a way to go make it happen.

He's an alpha administrator imo.

We're reading this through the wrong lens by and large imo.
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Jaxbuck said:
It's a public role sure but the real job, and his incentives to do it well, are the same as every other bureaucrat who's ever lived; do what my boss deems valuable.

Oh, I think he's owning it. In the sense that he's fading the heat and not his bosses. Again, I don't think he gives two shits what the sports media, fans, parents of athletes, coaches or even AD's think.

I don't think there is any doubt that clear communication is not going to happen. What if clear communication ran contrary to the real mission though?

Just an alternate take. Who knows for sure?

The only thing I know for sure is I still don't mind blaming this lugheaded motherfucker for all the anger I have about the season being cancelled.
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These two posts have made me think enough to do some searching on certain topics.

According to thee Wiki:
The office of the commissioner of athletics was created in 1922 "to study athletic problems of the various member universities and assist in enforcing the eligibility rules which govern Big Ten athletics."
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I even tried to google 1) who hires the commissioner, 2) who supervises the commissioner, 3) does Kevin Warren make sweet love to picnic tables...?
Couldn't find a cohesive answer to any of those questions.

I did find one article that talked about much speculation surrounded Northwestern's AD becoming the next commissioner. He sounds like he has his pulse on a shitload of applicable threads for being a good commissioner.

Anyway, I write all this to say, you may very well be right. Unfortunately, the insular nature of whomever are the commissioner's handlers leads me to believe that they wouldn't know 1) what proper PR looks like and 2) how to handle crises.
Therefore, I almost wonder if it's irrelevant.
Regardless, Kevin Warren ain't rectifying the shitshow that he's rolled out. Thus, his tenure may or may not outlive Covid, but the impact of his shit decision will be for some time to come.
 
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MaxBuck said:
When B1G football returns, all will be forgiven.

Well, except for Kevin Warren, he won't be. But everyone and everything else, yeah, forgiven.
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Unless the lawsuit makes it through discovery and each fan base hears the “football unter alles” bias spewing from the mouth of their own university’s president.

They won’t care
They won’t be affected
But they won’t be forgiven
 
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