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Are college grads getting dumber...

StooGrimson

He drives around, all over the town...
...or have they always been this stupid? I'd like to say that I work with folks who are smart enough to understand a credit card offer, but that's just not the case.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/01/20/literacy.college.students.ap/index.html

Study: College students lack literacy for complex tasks




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</FORM><!--endclickprintexclude-->WASHINGTON (AP) -- More than half of students at four-year colleges -- and at least 75 percent at two-year colleges -- lack the literacy to handle complex, real-life tasks such as understanding credit card offers, a study found.
The literacy study funded by the Pew Charitable Trusts, the first to target the skills of graduating students, finds that students fail to lock in key skills -- no matter their field of study.
The results cut across three types of literacy: analyzing news stories and other prose, understanding documents and having math skills needed for checkbooks or restaurant tips.
Without "proficient" skills, or those needed to perform more complex tasks, students fall behind. They cannot interpret a table about exercise and blood pressure, understand the arguments of newspaper editorials, compare credit card offers with different interest rates and annual fees or summarize results of a survey about parental involvement in school.
"It is kind of disturbing that a lot of folks are graduating with a degree and they're not going to be able to do those things," said Stephane Baldi, the study's director at the American Institutes for Research, a behavioral and social science research organization.
Most students at community colleges and four-year schools showed intermediate skills. That means they can do moderately challenging tasks, such as identifying a location on a map.
There was brighter news.
Overall, the average literacy of college students is significantly higher than that of adults across the nation. Study leaders said that was encouraging but not surprising, given that the spectrum of adults includes those with much less education.
Also, compared with all adults with similar levels of education, college students had superior skills in searching and using information from texts and documents.
"But do they do well enough for a highly educated population? For a knowledge-based economy? The answer is no," said Joni Finney, vice president of the National Center for Public Policy and Higher Education, an independent and nonpartisan group.
"This sends a message that we should be monitoring this as a nation, and we don't do it," Finney said. "States have no idea about the knowledge and skills of their college graduates."
The survey examined college students nearing the end of their degree programs.
The students did the worst on matters involving math, according to the study.
Almost 20 percent of students pursuing four-year degrees had only basic quantitative skills. For example, the students could not estimate if their car had enough gas to get to the service station. About 30 percent of two-year students had only basic math skills.
Baldi and Finney said the survey should be used as a tool. They hope state leaders, educators and university trustees will examine the rigor of courses required of all students.
The college survey used the same test as the National Assessment of Adult Literacy, the government's examination of English literacy among adults. The results of that study were released in December, showing about one in 20 adults is not literate in English.
On campus, the tests were given in 2003 to a representative sample of 1,827 students at public and private schools.
It has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
 
If you aren't in a major involving mathematics these days, you are exposed only to the most basic math out there. That is a big problem.

Funny how Engineers need three english classes along with a literature class but many students I know only need one math class.
 
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Yes OSU still offers 05slow...lol My first quarter I was in 075...I did NOT do well on my Math Placement test. I took Pre-Calc in my Senior Year in H.S. and I got a B overall in that class and I got placed into 075...lol But the good thing is that since I passed 075 I don't have to take another Math course! YAY!
 
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Yes OSU still offers 05slow...lol My first quarter I was in 075...I did NOT do well on my Math Placement test. I took Pre-Calc in my Senior Year in H.S. and I got a B overall in that class and I got placed into 075...lol But the good thing is that since I passed 075 I don't have to take another Math course! YAY!

And this is my point exactly. The fact that I'm in engineering and have to take three writing courses and a literature course and someone needs to take one math class not even at the 100 level. You wonder wny so many people don't understand how to make good financial decisions!
 
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And this is my point exactly. The fact that I'm in engineering and have to take three writing courses and a literature course and someone needs to take one math class not even at the 100 level. You wonder wny so many people don't understand how to make good financial decisions!

My Major is Criminology...I wanna be in the CIA, Detective, or SWAT so really you don't need much math.
 
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My Major is Criminology...I wanna be in the CIA, Detective, or SWAT so really you don't need much math.

I wasn't directing that pervious post at you so sorry if you thought I did. I'm just saying three writing classes and a lit class for me who needs to write lab reports and rarely need to read. Math is important in any major just as writing is. If you don't have to take many math classes, I at least think all students should need to take a class about managing money and finances...
 
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