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America's 10 most miserable cities: 2009

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sepia5;1410279; said:
Chicago at #3 ahead of places like Detroit, Buffalo, and St. Louis? I would love to live in Chicago. These Forbes lists can produce some ridiculous results sometimes.
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There are plenty of nice things about it, but it isn't as great as you might think...at least I didn't think so.
 
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jmorbitz;1410306; said:
Have you had a miserable life?
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:slappy: :slappy: :slappy:

Well, depends on what day you catch me...

No, I have had my share, but I've been blessed myself, though I can understand why someone could in the cities on the list. One has to be a certain kind of person to live in those places, and if you have pride in it (like the Detroit SI article), then you're good, but if you don't, you'd hate it, I imagine.
 
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LOL, it sucks to be us.

5 major league sports teams...multiple Big Ten bars for every school...The best symphony in the world...one of the two best museums in the Western Hemisphere...all other cultural institutions considered among the top 2-3 in America...the lakefront...despite its frustrations, better public transportation than almost any other city in the country...the greatest collection of architecture in America...second best restaurant city in America...best bar city in America...a direct flight to almost anywhere in the world 30 minutes away...Wrigley Field...ability to hail a cab...Lincoln Park Zoo...2016 Olympics

Man, I can't take this place any more:(.
 
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Bucklion;1410292; said:
There are plenty of nice things about it, but it isn't as great as you might think...at least I didn't think so.
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Yea, well, there are no great things about Detroit anymore. Can't even hang your hat on Mo-Town now. I can think of about 25 places off the top of my head that fit their metro-requirements that I'd be less likely to move to than Chicago. Just seems preposterous. Chicago is widely regarded as one of, if not the, best food cities in the country. For a city its size, and despite the sales tax, it remains comparatively affordable. There is at least some form of public transportation, albeit insufficient. Great sports town with several marquee franchises. Good local beer scene. Great universities in the city and nearby. I could go on and on. How Chicago rings in at #3 ahead of Detroit and Buffalo, and when places like Dayton don't even make the list, I'll just never understand. I know they're just plugging numbers into their criteria, but they may want to rethink their criteria when they get results like this.
 
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sepia5;1410322; said:
Yea, well, there are no great things about Detroit anymore. Can't even hang your hat on Mo-Town now. I can think of about 25 places off the top of my head that fit their metro-requirements that I'd be less likely to move to than Chicago. Just seems preposterous. Chicago is widely regarded as one of, if not the, best food cities in the country. For a city its size, and despite the sales tax, it remains comparatively affordable. There is at least some form of public transportation, albeit insufficient. Great sports town with several marquee franchises. Good local beer scene. Great universities in the city and nearby. I could go on and on. How Chicago rings in at #3 ahead of Detroit and Buffalo, and when places like Dayton don't even make the list, I'll just never understand. I know they're just plugging numbers into their criteria, but they may want to rethink their criteria when they get results like this.
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Apparently there are lots of factors, like commutes, etc., which are awful in Chicago. Affordability is definitely debatable, especially if you are middle class and want to buy a home somewhere you won't be dodging gunfire. The rest of the stuff you point out are good things about Chicago. My time there was mixed, and my impressions were mixed, but certainly #3 seems like a stretch to me, unless they were talking about living in Cicero or driving from Gurnee to downtown for work every morning.

As for O'Hare, yes, you can go direct, but I won't miss sitting on the tarmac for 2-4 hours every flight, that's for sure. The funny thing about O'Hare was that despite the volume of people, the check-in and security lines were more efficient than almost any other airport...I could just never get to a runway once I was on a plane.
 
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Bucklion;1410329; said:
Apparently there are lots of factors, like commutes, etc., which are awful in Chicago. Affordability is definitely debatable, especially if you are middle class and want to buy a home somewhere you won't be dodging gunfire. The rest of the stuff you point out are good things about Chicago. My time there was mixed, and my impressions were mixed, but certainly #3 seems like a stretch to me, unless they were talking about living in Cicero or driving from Gurnee to downtown for work every morning.
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Yea, I've dealt with Chicago at rush hour. It ain't pretty. Then again, it's no worse than New York, LA, Philly, or even smaller cities like Atlanta. I know it isn't the cheapest place to buy, but come on. Compared to the other two mega-cities in the US--LA and New York--it's a bargain. I imagine the recent gang-related crime scene explosion has something to do with the rankings, but still . . . . Ask 100 Americans where they'd rather live, Chicago or Detroit, and I'd bet 98 of them (at least) would say Chicago.
 
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sepia5;1410337; said:
Yea, I've dealt with Chicago at rush hour. It ain't pretty. Then again, it's no worse than New York, LA, Philly, or even smaller cities like Atlanta. I know it isn't the cheapest place to buy, but come on. Compared to the other two mega-cities in the US--LA and New York--it's a bargain. I imagine the recent gang-related crime scene explosion has something to do with the rankings, but still . . . . Ask 100 Americans where they'd rather live, Chicago or Detroit, and I'd bet 98 of them (at least) would say Chicago.
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Agreed, though it was REALLY expensive to buy there, at least when we were looking. As bad as Cali? No, but in the same conversation anyway. Atlanta is especially atrocious for traffic, but only because some fucking genius decided to put every major road under construction all at once...kind of like Columbus did when I lived there, come to think of it.
 
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