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Nate Clements was a bona-fide BMF as a true frosh. His bio in the 1999 media guide after one season as a backup was longer than some players get entering their fifth year.
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QB 2014 is well ahead of this group also. Both CJ and JT were far better in 2014. There's also the question of what to do with Braxton, and I don't think Burrow counts based on your policy on Laurinaitis.
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Here is a slight twist on all time unit;
If Big Daddy stays a year the 1995 DL is: Wilkinson, Vrabel, Luke Fickell and Matt Finkes.
Also, the 1994 LB starters were all drafted in the first three rounds and I want to say at least 1-2 of them had some eligibility left.
That would have been one hell of a front 7
If Big Daddy stays a year the 1995 DL is: Wilkinson, Vrabel, Luke Fickell and Matt Finkes.
Also, the 1994 LB starters were all drafted in the first three rounds and I want to say at least 1-2 of them had some eligibility left.
That would have been one hell of a front 7
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If we're doing hypothetical secondaries without declarations:
2016 (and 2015 had them all, just not playing)
CB Apple, Lattimore
S Bell, Webb, Fuller
S Hooker, Powell
CB Conley, Ward
NB Pick your favorite 1st round CB that isn't starting
If we're going fully hypothetical, add in this:
LB Baker, Worley
LB McMillan, Hilliard
LB Lee, Booker
DE Lewis, Hubbard
DT J.Bosa, Holmes
DT Jones, Sprinkle
DE Spence, N.Bosa
On a sidenote, apparently Joe Burrow was moonlighting at MLB a few years back:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...nalysis-complete-2016-preview-and-predictions
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cincibuck
You kids stay off my lawn!
Not what I meant. The quality and quantity at linebacker for OSU leads to some not getting the recognition they deserve - Marek, Tovar, and Wilhelm come to mind, and to those of us old enough to remember the grilled pecan roll at Ptomaine Tommy’s, Ike Kelly.
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That is hard to imagine
*The 1995 team with no early departures would have also had Stringer and Pace at bookend Tackles BTW. It starts to get into the "even Cooper couldn't have fucked that up" territory but let's face it, he would have.
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Disregard. Big Daddy went overall #1 in the 1994 draft after the 1993 season so he would have never been part of the 1995 team.
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bucknut502
Hall of Fame
So the way I understand it. You’re taking the position group based on what they did all time, not what they all did in the same season.
And if we throw in their NFL careers it’s hard not to take the 2013 RB group of:
Carlos Hyde
Ezekiel Elliott
Jordan Hall
Rod Smith
And if we throw in their NFL careers it’s hard not to take the 2013 RB group of:
Carlos Hyde
Ezekiel Elliott
Jordan Hall
Rod Smith
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This is always tough, but from my lifetime/memory (about 1995-present)
QB: 2014 with JT, CJ, and Braxton - I know Braxton was hurt, but that is the most talent in the QB room we've had. Next on my list would be when we had Troy Smith and Zwick.
RB: 2014 with Zeke, Rod Smith, Curtis Samuel, Jalin Marshall, Bri'onte Dunn, Warren Ball, Dontre Wilson - This one is tough because Zeke is the best from my lifetime (Eddie as a close second, then Beanie), but hardly anyone else got carries because he was so good and some of these were closer to receivers than RBs..but this group is just stacked. In terms of 1-2 punch, JK and Weber are fantastic, as was Beanie and Pittman.
WR: 2005 with Ginn, Holmes, Gonzo, Roy Hall, and Robiskie...this one was a pretty easy one for me. 2014 with Michael Thomas, Devin Smith, Evan Spencer, Corey Smith, Noah Brown, Johnnie Dixon, Terry McLaurin, Parris Campbell is pretty amazing.
TE: 2002 with Hartsock and Hamby. Also, 2012 with Heuerman, Stoneburner, and Vannett.
OL: 1994 with Stringer, Pace and Gholston...the 2002 championship team had an incredible OL as well and 2015 was right there.
DL: Tossup was between 2002 and 2017. 2017, depth was insane and there's going to be non-stop draft picks from that DL. But I think I give it to 2002, particularly with that championship performance in absolutely destroying Miami's vaunted OL...Will Smith, Kenny Peterson, Darrion Scott, Tim Anderson, Simon Fraser, Mike Kudla, Jay Richardson...damn they were good.
LB: 2005 with Hawk, Carpenter, Schlegel, Marcus Freeman and Lil Animal. Forgot Freeman was in there, definitely puts it over the top for me. We have had some truly amazing LB corps in my lifetime, but this crew was as overwhelmingly good as I have seen from any position group.
DB: 1998, unreal talent. 2016 right on its heals of course.
Punter/Kicker: 2002, Mike Nugent and Andy Groom.
QB: 2014 with JT, CJ, and Braxton - I know Braxton was hurt, but that is the most talent in the QB room we've had. Next on my list would be when we had Troy Smith and Zwick.
RB: 2014 with Zeke, Rod Smith, Curtis Samuel, Jalin Marshall, Bri'onte Dunn, Warren Ball, Dontre Wilson - This one is tough because Zeke is the best from my lifetime (Eddie as a close second, then Beanie), but hardly anyone else got carries because he was so good and some of these were closer to receivers than RBs..but this group is just stacked. In terms of 1-2 punch, JK and Weber are fantastic, as was Beanie and Pittman.
WR: 2005 with Ginn, Holmes, Gonzo, Roy Hall, and Robiskie...this one was a pretty easy one for me. 2014 with Michael Thomas, Devin Smith, Evan Spencer, Corey Smith, Noah Brown, Johnnie Dixon, Terry McLaurin, Parris Campbell is pretty amazing.
TE: 2002 with Hartsock and Hamby. Also, 2012 with Heuerman, Stoneburner, and Vannett.
OL: 1994 with Stringer, Pace and Gholston...the 2002 championship team had an incredible OL as well and 2015 was right there.
DL: Tossup was between 2002 and 2017. 2017, depth was insane and there's going to be non-stop draft picks from that DL. But I think I give it to 2002, particularly with that championship performance in absolutely destroying Miami's vaunted OL...Will Smith, Kenny Peterson, Darrion Scott, Tim Anderson, Simon Fraser, Mike Kudla, Jay Richardson...damn they were good.
LB: 2005 with Hawk, Carpenter, Schlegel, Marcus Freeman and Lil Animal. Forgot Freeman was in there, definitely puts it over the top for me. We have had some truly amazing LB corps in my lifetime, but this crew was as overwhelmingly good as I have seen from any position group.
DB: 1998, unreal talent. 2016 right on its heals of course.
Punter/Kicker: 2002, Mike Nugent and Andy Groom.
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Felt some years in the past were getting overlooked in favor of more recent memory. Decided to do a little research and bring up some more position groups
1993 WRs were sneaky good...
Joey Galloway
Terry Glenn (pre-Biletnikoff)
Buster Tillman
Chris Sanders
Dimitrious Stanley
So was 2003...
Michael Jenkins
Chris Gamble (split with CB duties)
Santonio "San Antonio" Holmes
Drew Carter
Roy Hall
Bam "Barn" Childress
1997 QB stable had 2 legit starters the entire year that deserve mention... Coop could never figure which guy to use and when. You could make an argument for them over JT and Cardale
Joe Germaine
Stanley Jackson
1981 deserves mention...
Art Schlichter
a young Mike Tomczak
In the end, the 2017 bunch at DL was special and will probably go down as the best we've ever seen, but 2002 was ridiculous and need listed by name...
Will Smith
Kenny Peterson
Darrion Scott
Tim Anderson
Simon Fraser
Mike Kudla
David Thompson
Marcus Green
Jay Richardson
Quinn Pitcock
IMHO 1993 RB stable was the best of all time, Zeke be damned
Robert Smith
Raymont Harris
Butler By'note
A young fumble-prone Eddie George
I also second buckeyeintn for 1968-1969 at RB. My father still talks about those 3 together
Jim Otis
John Brockington
Leo Hayden
We were loaded at RB and FB for Archie's final year in 1974...
Archie Griffin
Pete Johnson
Ray Griffin
Champ Henson
1985 was great on paper. Byars was hurt on and off all year so it was RB by committee
Keith Byars
Vince Workman
John Wooldridge
George Cooper
1993 WRs were sneaky good...
Joey Galloway
Terry Glenn (pre-Biletnikoff)
Buster Tillman
Chris Sanders
Dimitrious Stanley
So was 2003...
Michael Jenkins
Chris Gamble (split with CB duties)
Santonio "San Antonio" Holmes
Drew Carter
Roy Hall
Bam "Barn" Childress
1997 QB stable had 2 legit starters the entire year that deserve mention... Coop could never figure which guy to use and when. You could make an argument for them over JT and Cardale
Joe Germaine
Stanley Jackson
1981 deserves mention...
Art Schlichter
a young Mike Tomczak
In the end, the 2017 bunch at DL was special and will probably go down as the best we've ever seen, but 2002 was ridiculous and need listed by name...
Will Smith
Kenny Peterson
Darrion Scott
Tim Anderson
Simon Fraser
Mike Kudla
David Thompson
Marcus Green
Jay Richardson
Quinn Pitcock
IMHO 1993 RB stable was the best of all time, Zeke be damned
Robert Smith
Raymont Harris
Butler By'note
A young fumble-prone Eddie George
I also second buckeyeintn for 1968-1969 at RB. My father still talks about those 3 together
Jim Otis
John Brockington
Leo Hayden
We were loaded at RB and FB for Archie's final year in 1974...
Archie Griffin
Pete Johnson
Ray Griffin
Champ Henson
1985 was great on paper. Byars was hurt on and off all year so it was RB by committee
Keith Byars
Vince Workman
John Wooldridge
George Cooper
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1984 team was loaded
QB
Tomczack
Karsatos
Tupa (who was listed as the punter)
Two of the three went on to pretty decent NFL careers and Karsatos was a solid starting college QB
Looking at interior OL as a group they also had
Kirk Lowdermilk
Jim Lachey
Scott Zalenski (no NFL but a 3 year starter)
Bob Maggs and Jim Gilmore were backups. Maggs was all B1G level and Gilmore got a cup of coffee in the NFL.
Younger guys wouldn't remember it but Lachey was in the conversation for best OL in the NFL for many years. Easily in any debate for all time best by position in OSU history. Lowdermilk was an 11 year NFL center.
As someone else mentioned above, the LB 2 deep had Speilman, Pepper Johnson and Eric Kumerow
It was different back then but the two WR's were Chris carter and Mike Lanese. I will put those two up against anybody.
Somehow (poor Earl) they lost 3 games.
QB
Tomczack
Karsatos
Tupa (who was listed as the punter)
Two of the three went on to pretty decent NFL careers and Karsatos was a solid starting college QB
Looking at interior OL as a group they also had
Kirk Lowdermilk
Jim Lachey
Scott Zalenski (no NFL but a 3 year starter)
Bob Maggs and Jim Gilmore were backups. Maggs was all B1G level and Gilmore got a cup of coffee in the NFL.
Younger guys wouldn't remember it but Lachey was in the conversation for best OL in the NFL for many years. Easily in any debate for all time best by position in OSU history. Lowdermilk was an 11 year NFL center.
As someone else mentioned above, the LB 2 deep had Speilman, Pepper Johnson and Eric Kumerow
It was different back then but the two WR's were Chris carter and Mike Lanese. I will put those two up against anybody.
Somehow (poor Earl) they lost 3 games.
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