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Alabama DT Terrence Cody

methomps;1635397; said:
Wow what a loaded stat. That 78% stat can include all of these categories (and more):

divorced, bankrupt, and unemployed
divorced and bankrupt, but employed
divorced, rich, and unemployed
divorced, rich, and employed
divorced, with means, and unemployed
divorced, with means, and employed
not divorced, bankrupt, and unemployed
not divorced, bankrupt, and employed
not divorced, rich, and unemployed
not divorced, with means, and unemployed

Exactly and what's wrong with being unemployed if you're an NFL football player?...you just RETIRED from your job and are most likely incredibly rich, I don't see how unemployment is even relevent.
 
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Ttown;1635418; said:
consumer science = shopping?
Eh, don't know if I buy into that ...
methomps;1635397; said:
Wow what a loaded stat. That 78% stat can include all of these categories (and more):

divorced, bankrupt, and unemployed
divorced and bankrupt, but employed
divorced, rich, and unemployed
divorced, rich, and employed
divorced, with means, and unemployed
divorced, with means, and employed
not divorced, bankrupt, and unemployed
not divorced, bankrupt, and employed
not divorced, rich, and unemployed
not divorced, with means, and unemployed
Do you think USA Today would benefit from understanding the concept of Venn Diagrams?
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Of course, that presumes that they might understand what they mean.
 
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KingLeon;1635386; said:
I don't see how that's a good reason to not know your major. I mean, it's sad that happened to him though.. Not saying anything about Alabama's integrity though, just kind of weird that he doesn't know his major.

I agree, it's great that he made it to college after tragedy; I'm not so sure that he's automatically forgiven from not knowing his major. As was said though, I'm sure a player or two from every team forgets what his major is every once in a while. The term student-athlete shouldn't be mistaken for student first, athlete second for the majority of these individuals (even though we tend to hear that ad nauseam).
 
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methomps;1635385; said:
OMG! Nobody ever gets put on the spot and completely blanks on basic things!

And if ESPN were trying to spin the story, wouldn't they simply have omitted that part? The only spin I find in this whole thing is your contention that "this says a lot about the academic integrity of the University of Alabama."


OMG! that would be an excellent explanation if he seemed remotely uncomfortable or nervous, but that was not the case. Besides, like someone else said earlier, forgetting your major is comparable to forgetting your name...it just shouldn't happen.

Additionally, I am not attacking Cody here. He is just a product of a corrupt system. To be honest, he is the victim here. Imagine if he were to have a career ending injury, god forbid. What does he have to fall back on....a faux college education in consumer science. Lack of educational requirements, or more specifically enforcement of those requirements could be the cause of many pro athlets going bankrupt. Many come from backgrounds where money is not exactly available in abundance. They don't know how to handle money and when they all of the sudden have lots of money they blow through it. Not exactly sure what a degree in consumer science entails, but it sounds like it consists of classes that are geared toward spending your money or making purchases wisely. Classes such as these or finance classes could go a long way to help.

Finally, I am not so clueless as to think this doesn't happen at other schools...that is why I didn't say that....it still doesn't make it ok for Alabama to do it.
 
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I apologize if you misinterpreted my post as an attack on Cody. It was more an attack on the academics at Alabama or other schools in general that allow the same thing. However, I completely disagree with your justifying meaningless classes for potential pro athletes. That basically justifies holding collegiate athletes at a different standard. If that is the case, screw it, lets just stop giving scholarships and start paying them money to play. They are just a broken leg away from being in the same situation as many other college students.

I never said that it doesn't happen at other schools. You read into the post what you wanted to see.

BigWoof31;1635315; said:
Perhaps it might have been better had the young man had his mother spoken publically about colleges creating a major for kids who are destined for professional sports as opposed to making them go to real classes?

I seem to remember that happening somewhere in the not-too-distant past, but I can't put my finger on it?
The Economics of Intercollegiate Sports - Google Books

Cut the kid a break. His father died when he was 11 and he had to leave home at the age of 17 to live with a teammate.
 
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SayNoToMichigan;1635383; said:
"In fact, 78% of all NFL players are divorced, bankrupt or unemployed two years after leaving the game"

USATODAY.com - Life after the NFL: Typically a struggle

This is way it's sad. He'll get all this money when he is drafted, but will likely blow it like most players during they're career.

Some quotes from the article:

Experts say a high percentage of those men will be thrust into the so-called real world with few marketable skills to increase their wealth and serious self-identity issues that often make the transition from the game a perilous one.
Uh, isn't that why you go to college in the first place?

"Our culture isn't set up for a 35-year-old" retiree, he said.
Bullshit. I retired at 44 after 26 years in the Air Force and got a job unrelated to what I was doing in the service. How? By getting my BSCS while on active duty in preparation for my retirement from service. Also, star football players have contacts and a network to get work after playing...you think that A. J. Hawk, Donte Whitner, Nick Mangold, Will Smith, etc., would have a hard time finding a job back in the Columbus area?
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1635527; said:
Bull[censored]. I retired at 44 after 26 years in the Air Force and got a job unrelated to what I was doing in the service. How? By getting my BSCS while on active duty in preparation for my retirement from service. Also, star football players have contacts and a network to get work after playing...you think that A. J. Hawk, Donte Whitner, Nick Mangold, Will Smith, etc., would have a hard time finding a job back in the Columbus area?


Also, Saving money doesn't hurt. only takes some common sense.

As coach Tressel says.... leave if you are a first rounder. I think Gibson is pretty close to it.
 
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matt_thatsme;1635511; said:
OMG! that would be an excellent explanation if he seemed remotely uncomfortable or nervous, but that was not the case. Besides, like someone else said earlier, forgetting your major is comparable to forgetting your name...it just shouldn't happen.

Do you have a link to a transcript or audio/video recording of the event, or are you basing your judgment of his comfort level on the article?
 
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methomps;1635597; said:
Do you have a link to a transcript or audio/video recording of the event, or are you basing your judgment of his comfort level on the article?


Look at the picture of Cody doing the interview all the while smiling ear to ear. Also, the article reads "the jovial Cody was in such a good mood....". You can also search Terrence Cody on youtube. I watched three or four interviews and he looks like a guy that is very comfortable talking to the media.
 
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There are plenty of students (not student-athletes, students) who don't know basic stuff like their major, their GPA or their rank. I deal with it every day. It's not an indictment of Alabama's football program, it's an indictment of people throughout that university and many others who don't hold students like him accountable for that stuff.
 
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jlb1705;1636035; said:
There are plenty of students (not student-athletes, students) who don't know basic stuff like their major, their GPA or their rank. I deal with it every day. It's not an indictment of Alabama's football program, it's an indictment of people throughout that university and many others who don't hold students like him accountable for that stuff.


If it is an indictment of the school it is also an indictment of the football program that is run by the school, right? I agree with your main point though. It is the system who has failed the student, not the student who has failed the system.
A student not knowing their GPA or class rank does not surprise me. As far as a student not knowing their major, I could see that in a freshman or sophomore or maybe even a junior who keeps switching majors, but I don't buy that a student who is two classes short of graduating with his degree would not know his major if he actually attended classes.
 
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