Gatorubet;1449684; said:
But they found out that he was an SS guard and had lied about it, and that he had served in other camps. Just because they could not prove he was Ivan the Terrible, it does not mean that he was not a former SS guard who lied on his immigration app.
Kudos to Israel for reviewing the new evidence after the fall of the Soviet Union that put his ID as Ivan in doubt. I know they don't want to tarnish their convictions, but that was the right thing to do.
If he lied on his immigration app, fine... deport the guy, no one wanted to take him.
OSUsushichic;1449689; said:
Yeah, this has been going on forever. I remember the "Ivan the Terrible" trial when I was little. He wasn't just "found".
Yeah, I've driven by his house on a nubmer of occasions and saw the protestors shouting away on a few occasions.
Yeah, and I'm certainly not trying to "go easy" on SS prison guards. However, the dude is what? 90? and already did 7 or 8 years in jail in Israel... now... does he "deserve" much more than that? Probably, but, the reality is that 10's of thousands of SS "members" (maybe hundreds of thousands) worked in prison camps and how many were tried and/or convicted? (I don't know, the answer, but, I'm going to go out on a limb and say less than 5%)
My point is, that if the dude was just a guard, (Especially a guard who was ukranian and working for the SS) it wouldn't wouldn't even have gotten him an indictment after the war unless he did something-- ummm-- exceptionally rotten.
So, either he's getting this "special treatment" because people still think he's Ivan, OR "hey look, there's a Nazi left, Let's get him"
Anyway, my point is that he's suffered quite a bit more than most of the "bad guys" on the -presumably-- the same level... I mean, what are they going to accomplish by convicting him... nothing, really...
I would, however, Gator, have accepted your original "solution" of your dad's unit taking care of things back in '45.