5 players suspended for 5 games in 2011 regular season (Appeal has been denied)

[Coqui]

I don't see the problem then.

A summer job is enough to cover all your entertainment expenses?

I wasn't on scholarship and I still had a hard time convincing admissions that I wasn't buying movie tickets etc. (to qualify for in state residency)

They still go to the clubs, they still eat out, they still go to the movies, they still need clothes. Most summer jobs will yield about 2000-3000. That doesn't include rent if they stay in the city either.

 

[Buckeye513]

A summer job is enough to cover all your entertainment expenses?

I wasn't on scholarship and I still had a hard time convincing admissions that I wasn't buying movie tickets etc. (to qualify for in state residency)

They still go to the clubs, they still eat out, they still go to the movies, they still need clothes. Most summer jobs will yield about 2000-3000. That doesn't include rent if they stay in the city either.

You think they should get a stipend to buy movie tickets?

 

[MaxBuck]

They can get summer jobs, and they can get student loans. Some also qualify for Pell Grants, if they bother to apply.

I don't wish to seem argumentative (for a change), but there are some pretty draconian limits on what summer jobs full-scholarship college athletes can get.

The whole summer-job thing is pretty much unavailable to football players at an elite program like Ohio State anyway; these kids have to do independent conditioning and practice almost full-time in the summers.

 

[CleveBucks]

I don't wish to seem argumentative (for a change), but there are some pretty draconian limits on what summer jobs full-scholarship college athletes can get.

The whole summer-job thing is pretty much unavailable to football players at an elite program like Ohio State anyway; these kids have to do independent conditioning and practice almost full-time in the summers.

Rolle had an internship last summer, and Chekwa has a Pell Grant. Both according to this Dispatch article:

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2011/01/02/fullrideisnt.html?sid=101

"The money you do get, if you don't blow it on things you don't need, you'll be A-OK," said Rolle.

 

[Coqui]

You think they should get a stipend to buy movie tickets?

No. I think saying a summer job is enough to cover all non tuition/room/board expenses for the entire year is ridiculous. That's all I meant by that.

After all, they are allowed to have lives as well.

 

[Muck]

That is such a simplistic way of looking at things ....

As opposed to the hyperbolic way you were looking at it.

a roof over your head and meals on the table are what you are thankful for when you are living in poverty or unemployed without means.

A roof over your head and meals on the table are what you require to survive.

If you want to expand it beyond that you can look at the rest of Maslov's hierarchy pyramid. You'll be equally hard pressed to find anything from the Safety, Love, Esteem & Self-Actualization layers that aren't met by college athletes.

You don't need a PS3 to survive. Of course if there are any Buckeye players that don't already have one I'm sure they were able to rectify that while shopping for free in the Sugar Bowl 'guest suite'.

That's enough to survive, but is that enough to actually live on? For an 18-24 year old?

I'm probably not the guy you want to ask that question considering when I was at that age there was a long stretch where my entertainment consisted of watching big gnarly black scorpions kill & dismember camel spiders.

Oh wait...there was the couple of weeks where a bedouin family camped near our pos and you could watch the women take sponge baths through binos. That was pretty exciting. Did you know they don't shave their legs or pits?


The bottom line is that college football players are not going without anything they need to survive & prosper.

 

[kn1f3party]

With Muck on this one. The benefits received for being a scholarship athlete are not limiting these kids to poverty-like conditions. They are doing as well as the rest of the student population, and in many cases better. It gets so easy to forget they are students as well as athletes. They aren't coming to the school to make money for the school or themselves. Not right now at least. If we're not careful, some of us might get what we wish for and the sport will be ruined for good.

I've got a couple of brother-in-laws that make some mean SPAM and ramen noodle recipes. When I was their age I was a lowly E-3 trying to make rent in Las Vegas with a jobless wife and an infant child. I'm fairly certain they're living better than I was, working less hours, and a hell of a lot happier.

 

[Steve19]

I figured it was when I gave up the peyote and absinthe.

Point taken though.

So, then, you admit it...

 

[Steve19]

What is the feeling in Columbus today about the team?

 

[jlb1705]

That is such a simplistic way of looking at things .... a roof over your head and meals on the table are what you are thankful for when you are living in poverty or unemployed without means.

That's enough to survive, but is that enough to actually live on? For an 18-24 year old?

They get the opportunity to earn a bachelor's degree without coming out of it with a negative net worth. That's more than can be said for most college students.

 

[ScriptOhio]

What is the feeling in Columbus today about the team?

Depends on who you ask. If you ask me: Let's go to the Sugar Bowl, play the best players, beat the "Mark May" out of the hogs, and get some respect back for the Big 10. The NCAA decided what/when and how many days the suspension would be for. Five games is overly excessive for the given violation. It isn't fair to "screw over" the players and add an additional game (Sugar Bowl) to supposedly make a "statement". Everyone has already made enough statements, let's go and play the game already.

:osu:

 

[Buckskin86]

After quarterback Terrelle Pryor hinted over the weekend that the pledge to return next season made by the players suspended for the start of the 2011 season may not be as concrete for all of them as Tressel made it out to be when the Buckeyes arrived in New Orleans, Tressel was asked how confident he is they will return: "I'm totally confident," Tressel said. "Totally."

http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2011/01/ohio_states_jim_tressel_on_the.html

 

[Nicknam4]

Depends on who you ask. If you ask me: Let's go to the Sugar Bowl, play the best players, beat the "Mark May" out of the hogs, and get some respect back for the Big 10. The NCAA decided what/when and how many days the suspension would be for. Five games is overly excessive for the given violation. It isn't fair to "screw over" the players and add an additional game (Sugar Bowl) to supposedly make a "statement". Everyone has already made enough statements, let's go and play the game already.

:osu:

No matter what happens the Big Ten will still be seen for the 0-5 show they had on Jan 1st.

Let's get some respect back for The Ohio State University, which is all these players can control.

 

[Lou270slant]

- I assume you're being pressured by the Sugar Bowl, the Big Ten, and maybe even the University.

- You've always appeared to be a man of high integrity and strong values.

- I couldn't have been prouder of this team and your leadership over the course of your tenure, through bad times and good.

- I'm struggling with being proud of what appears to be happening tomorrow night.

- It's a no-win situation, in the public view, no matter the outcome of the game.

- Please Coach. Do the right thing.

 

[Muck]

- Please Coach. Do the right thing.

He already has.

He used the opportunity to treat the players like men & challenged them to prove themselves as individuals with integrity.