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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
The Big Ten and SEC are trying to change the seeding in the College Football Playoff
Both conferences are trying to change the seeding process in the CFP next season and beyond.The Big Ten and SEC have a massive fight on their hands while trying to change CFP seeding
While they believe this would make more sense, they have a huge fight on their hands. Any change having to deal with seeding will require a unanimous vote from all of the Power 4 conferences. That means getting the Big 12 and the ACC on board with this plan.Both conferences are pushing back hard with this proposal. They think it is fairer to keep things the way that they are. They aren't wrong. The Big Ten and SEC are just trying to push the other conferences around into doing whatever they want. Everyone else knows it.
The issue is that they might not win this fight, especially if they are about to change the format to a 14 or 16-team format. The Buckeyes would benefit from this change, but it wouldn't be good for college football at large. That's what this seeding change is about.
It doesn't look like this change is going to happen for the 2025 season, but it still might. If it doesn't happen this year, it will almost certainly happen next year (i.e. 2026) once these two conferences seize power of the CFP.
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Who cares about seeding when you have Jeremiah Smith!
No one is ever going to repeat the kind of run we did last year again. Ohio against the MF world!
No one is ever going to repeat the kind of run we did last year again. Ohio against the MF world!
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
I'll take the position of disagreeing. I could see it happening again. It was just a case where Ohio State really had the best team personnel wise; however, they didn't have the best record. They finally put it all together after the scUM loss and just ran the table. I don't think there was any doubt that Ohio State was the best team and they won. I could see it happening again.
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calibuck
Too soon old, too late smart
Guess that somebody has gotta have the same run, as champ must win them all to put on the crown. Don't know that the next folk will beat the highly ranked teams as tOSU did, but the winner WILL go either 3-0 or 4-0 in order to take home the crown. Truly surprised that all four of the teams with first round byes lost. That shocked me somewhat.
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Zurp
I have misplaced my pants.
I guess it depends on what we're talking about. Are we talking for the entire season? Ohio State beat #2, #3, #4, #5, #9, and #10 of the final AP rankings. (In order, Notre Dame, Oregon, Texas, Penn State, Tennessee, and Indiana.) 2 of those were in the regular season, and 4 in the playoffs. How many chances does a team have to play 2 teams that finish in the top 10 in the AP poll? I'm guessing it isn't very often. But I don't know the answer. I'd love to get an answer, though. How many times has a team beaten 2 teams in the regular season that were ranked in the final top 10? But maybe the topic is just the final 4 games.
Ohio State played 4 more top 10 teams in the playoffs. Before 2024, that wasn't an option. So, it remains to be seen how many more times that will happen. But with the current format, only 8 of the 12 teams will have a chance to play 4 playoff games, and really only 1 of those will be a conference champion. And that conference champion will likely be a lower-ranked team.
The top 2 spots are typically going to go to winners of Big Ten and SEC, with maybe the ACC or Big 12 sneaking in there rarely. But they'll be the top 2 ranked teams. I think the future will show that these 2 teams will make it to the final game more often than not. #1 team will have faced probably #8/#9, #4/#5, before playing probably #2. And #2 will have faced #7, and #3/#6, before playing #1.
I think #8 beating #1 will be very rare. #7 beating #2 will be rare. I think ScriptOhio did a good job of explaining how Ohio State did it this past year, but that will be an exception to the norm.
I disagree that "no one will ever go on this kind of run, again," but I think it will be rare.
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BigWoof31
"Barkin' up the wrong tree"
Power Rank the wins in terms of difficulty for two championship level Ohio State teams (as it relates to playoffs):
2014 B1G Title against UW (effectively a playoff game)
2014 Sugar Bowl vs. Bama
2014 Title Game vs. Oregon
2024 vs. Tennessee (home)
2024 vs. Oregon (Rose)
2024 vs. Texas (Cotton)
2024 vs. ND (Title)
How accurate is this ranking. (Most difficult to easiest):
1). 2014 Sugar Bowl vs. Bama
2). 2024 vs. ND (Title)
3). 2024 vs. Texas (Cotton)
4). 2014 Title Game vs. Oregon
5). 2024 vs. Oregon (Rose)
6). 2024 vs. Tennessee (home)
7). 2014 B1G Title against UW (effectively a playoff game)
2014 B1G Title against UW (effectively a playoff game)
2014 Sugar Bowl vs. Bama
2014 Title Game vs. Oregon
2024 vs. Tennessee (home)
2024 vs. Oregon (Rose)
2024 vs. Texas (Cotton)
2024 vs. ND (Title)
How accurate is this ranking. (Most difficult to easiest):
1). 2014 Sugar Bowl vs. Bama
2). 2024 vs. ND (Title)
3). 2024 vs. Texas (Cotton)
4). 2014 Title Game vs. Oregon
5). 2024 vs. Oregon (Rose)
6). 2024 vs. Tennessee (home)
7). 2014 B1G Title against UW (effectively a playoff game)
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Zurp
I have misplaced my pants.
You're saying this is your ranking? Your ranking is close to how I'd rank them:
1. 2014 Alabama - That was Alabama's prime, really. I guess they had a long prime. But that had the #2 or #3 Heisman guy, plus the next year's Heisman winner. And a punter (was that JK Scott?) who was killing Ohio State in the 2nd half.
2. 2024 Texas - This game was 1 yard and a dumb coach away from being tied, 21-21, with... what... 2 minutes remaining? 4 minutes? Ohio State answered the call every time Texas tied it, and I think Ohio State would get back into field goal range to win. But it was closer than the national championship game.
3. 2014 Oregon - Oregon had the ball early in the second half with a chance to take a lead. Plus, Ohio State, though playing well offensively, already gave up a home run or two, and seemed to enjoy turning the ball over. Oregon was just dropping passes. Then Zeke decided to win the game.
4. 2024 Notre Dame - I almost put this #3. Then I convinced myself that 2014 Oregon belonged at #3.
5. 2024 Oregon - I almost want to put 2014 Wisconsin here. But that Oregon team was #1 for a bunch of the season. Going up 31-0 was pretty awesome. Or was it 34-0? I guess I better go back and watch again.
6. 2014 Wisconsin - They had the #2 Heisman dude that year. And he already broke the record for rushing yards in a game that season. (I think it got broken the very next week by some other nerd.) When CJ hit that first bomb, all I could think was, "At least we didn't get shut out."
7. 2024 Tennessee - I think Ohio State showed the country that the #3 SEC team was less deserving of a playoff spot than the #4 Big Ten team was.
My 2 cents.
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I would just flip the 2/3 games with ND and Texas, since I believe the Longhorns were a tougher battle; they were 1 yard away from tying it with about 3 minutes left. The Domers were down 31-7 at one point.
But I’m not sure, I’ve only re-watched each of the playoff games 8 times as of today.
And I could see somebody flipping 5/6 for the first 2 rounds this year. Tennessee was 21-10 at the half and Oregon was 34-0 before the final play of the half. But at some point in the second half I felt more comfortable with Tennessee as the opponent.
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BigWoof31
"Barkin' up the wrong tree"
Thank you BB.
I’ll give UT a little bit of flowers. You could tell Nico was overwhelmed from the jump and he was getting mauled, but he didn’t quit. Showed he had some toughness about him. Played through it no matter how bad it got.
I admire that in a kid.
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