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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments - NCAA: no wins taken away, no postseason ban

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Coaches getting 6-10 year show cause penalties does not line up with "minor violations" that's a show cause for major violations. I'm guessing scUM went in there with some sort of "think of the kids the innocent's!" sob defense and the COI bought it
 
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Jagdaddy said:
Nah, as much as it's human nature to hate feeling like a "sucker", our integrity isn't worth selling out even if others benefit by selling out theirs.
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Integrity is open for interpretation. I mean that sincerely. Looking at the scope of where things are from then, OSU should have had the backs of the players and coaches more than they did.

I love OSU, but even with the way they are handling the wrestling matter, they are not angelic and free of reproach in some instances.

With the said, F the NCAA and Scum.
 
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osuvictory1 said:
Which makes me more angry that OSU just let things happen with tattgate
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ORD_Buckeye said:
I was wrong about how we handled that. We should have just buried the emails, and if the ncaa did somehow find out, we should have acted exactly the way that tcun and UNC did.

ncaa can't end up on the ash heap of history soon enough.
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Nah, as much as it's human nature to hate feeling like a "sucker", our integrity isn't worth selling out even if others benefit by selling out theirs.
 
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www.ncaa.org

Overwhelming evidence shows impermissible scouting scheme in Michigan football program - NCAA.org

Over the course of three seasons, the Michigan football program committed violations involving an off-campus, in-person scouting scheme, impermissible recruiting
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As a result of Michigan's most recent infractions case, three parties — Michigan, Harbaugh and Moore — fall within the legislated window to trigger repeat violator status. Michigan's repeat violator status, coupled with its Level I-Aggravated case classification, is sufficient grounds for a multiyear postseason ban. However, the panel determined that a postseason ban would unfairly penalize student-athletes for the actions of coaches and staff who are no longer associated with the Michigan football program. Thus, the panel determined a more appropriate penalty is an offsetting financial penalty instead of a two-year postseason ban.

Similarly, the NCAA membership has shifted from scholarship limits to roster spots. The NCAA membership has not yet determined whether roster reductions will replace scholarship reductions as a core penalty, and the panel did not want to prematurely make that decision on behalf of the membership. Instead, the panel adhered to the percentages contemplated for Level I-Aggravated scholarship reductions but converted the penalty to the financial equivalent of what would have been scholarship reductions.

The total financial penalties in this case will result in a multimillion-dollar fine.

The prescribed penalties for the parties who contested their violations in this case are as follows:

  • Four years of probation.
  • Financial penalties:
    • $50,000 fine, plus 10% of the budget for the football program.
    • A fine equivalent to the anticipated loss of all postseason competition revenue sharing associated with the 2025 and 2026 football seasons.
    • A fine equivalent to the cost of 10% of the scholarships awarded in Michigan's football program for the 2025-26 academic year.
  • A 25% reduction in football official visits during the 2025-26 season.
  • A 14-week prohibition on recruiting communications in the football program during the probation period.
  • Connor Stalions:
    • An eight-year show-cause order, restricting him from all athletically related activities during the show-cause period.
  • Jim Harbaugh:
    • A 10-year show-cause order, restricting him from all athletically related activities during the show-cause period, which will begin on Aug. 7, 2028, at the conclusion of his four-year show-cause order from a previous case.
  • Denard Robinson:
    • A three-year show-cause order, restricting him from all athletically related activities during the show-cause period.
  • Sherrone Moore:
    • A two-year show-cause order, during which he is suspended from a total of three games. Michigan self-imposed a two-game suspension for Moore during the upcoming 2025-26 football season. The panel determined that a suspension for one additional game was appropriate. Therefore, Moore also will be suspended for the first game of the 2026-27 season. Apart from the three-game suspension, Moore is not prohibited from engaging in coaching or other athletically related activities during the show-cause period.
 
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No vacated wins or loss of scholarships…

Open cheating should just be embraced now. Just go all in. Make sure every opposing school’s coaches box is mic’d up. Openly video on the sidelines. Make sure to send interns to road games to scout in full Ohio State gear.
There is absolutely no reason to not do any of that or worse going forward
 
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Yep the COI bought right into the "think of the kids!" Bullshit

However, the panel determined that a postseason ban would unfairly penalize student-athletes for the actions of coaches and staff who are no longer associated with the Michigan football program. Thus, the panel determined a more appropriate penalty is an offsetting financial penalty instead of a two-year postseason ban
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
Probation??? Weren't they ALREADY on probation?!

Such a joke the NCAA even admits a boat load of cheating went on, but the punishment doesn't even come close to fitting the crimes
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thats my thoughts as well... the language used in the COI all the way up to the actual penalties screams nuke the program... but instead they said we're gonna hit you with a foam noodle swung by a 90yo
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
Yep the COI bought right into the "think of the kids!" Bullshit

However, the panel determined that a postseason ban would unfairly penalize student-athletes for the actions of coaches and staff who are no longer associated with the Michigan football program. Thus, the panel determined a more appropriate penalty is an offsetting financial penalty instead of a two-year postseason ban
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The financial penalty doesn’t even come close to the windfall they got for winning the NC. UM got off completely. NCAA has no integrity at this point. It now PAYS to cheat.
 
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AuTX Buckeye said:
thats my thoughts as well... the language used in the COI all the way up to the actual penalties screams nuke the program... but instead they said we're gonna hit you with a foam noodle swung by a 90yo
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reading it scUM clearly played the "think of the kids and others here now who weren't involved" sad story and the COI completely bought into it.
 
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