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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, etc.

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otisu said:
Per Premierdrum on 11W late yesterday…

A UM-adjacent source, who helped us break both the draft and formal NOA delivery stories, had a bit to say.

Internally, this source says that UM is preparing for-

- "Record-correcting" rear facing sanctions

- A 2-year postseason ban

- Recruiting restrictions

- A 6 to as many as 12 game suspension and show-cause penalty for Moore

- Fines and other administrative penalties (trainings, enhanced monitoring, etc).
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The record correcting seems like fun but the rest of that seems pretty light
 
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otisu said:
Per Premierdrum on 11W late yesterday…

A UM-adjacent source, who helped us break both the draft and formal NOA delivery stories, had a bit to say.

Internally, this source says that UM is preparing for-

- "Record-correcting" rear facing sanctions

- A 2-year postseason ban

- Recruiting restrictions

- A 6 to as many as 12 game suspension and show-cause penalty for Moore

- Fines and other administrative penalties (trainings, enhanced monitoring, etc).
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I'll need to see the official penalties, but if they're getting him for 3 years of cheating, why only a 2 year postseason ban? Even if it got blown up mid-year 3, they still cheated in that season which had a direct impact on their results. Anything less than a 3 year postseason ban is some soft shit.
 
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NFBuck said:
I'll need to see the official penalties, but if they're getting him for 3 years of cheating, why only a 2 year postseason ban? Even if it got blown up mid-year 3, they still cheated in that season which had a direct impact on their results. Anything less than a 3 year postseason ban is some soft shit.
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I guess this is kind of the bare minimum I need to see to be satisfied (and it is harsh because FUCK THEIR CHEATING ASSES):

- Removal of all recognition of their 2021-2023 seasons to include wins, the fugazi B1G championships, and their fugazi NC*
- 3 year postseason ban
- Significant recruiting restrictions
- 1 year suspension & show cause for Sniffles.
- Suspensions for any coaches involved in the scheme with show causes for any coach that was evasive or that outright mislead the NCAA
- Lifetime ban for Stalions.
- Significant fines & enhanced oversight on their program by the NCAA
- Thorough/aggressive public reprimand from the NCAA detailing their transgressions with names named.
- Kneel before Zod Day.

That, to me, would be as close to the "death penalty" as we will see in modern times. Now, will that impact their program as severely as we want? In today's CFB, I'm not sure. It will definitely hurt. But today's CFB with NIL isn't what it was 10 years ago. They may very well still be able to attract top recruits and field competent teams because money talks. CFB isn't about pride and pageantry like it used to be. Most top recruits look at it as a lucrative job now. If their donors still fork out $$$, they'll probably still get recruits. Where it will likely hurt the most would be their ability to attract top-flight coaches and their ability to put depth around any star player(s) they sign.
 
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NFBuck said:
I guess this is kind of the bare minimum I need to see to be satisfied (and it is harsh because FUCK THEIR CHEATING ASSES):

- Removal of all recognition of their 2021-2023 seasons to include wins, the fugazi B1G championships, and their fugazi NC*
- 3 year postseason ban
- Significant recruiting restrictions
- 1 year suspension & show cause for Sniffles.
- Suspensions for any coaches involved in the scheme with show causes for any coach that was evasive or that outright mislead the NCAA
- Significant fines & enhanced oversight on their program by the NCAA
- Thorough/aggressive public reprimand from the NCAA detailing their transgressions with names named.
- Kneel before Zod Day.

That, to me, would be as close to the "death penalty" as we will see in modern times. Now, will that impact their program as severely as we want? In today's CFB, I'm not sure. It will definitely hurt. But today's CFB with NIL isn't what it was 10 years ago. They may very well still be able to attract top recruits and field competent teams because money talks. CFB isn't about pride and pageantry like it used to be. Most top recruits look at it as a lucrative job now. If their donors still fork out $$$, they'll probably still get recruits. Where it will likely hurt the most would be their ability to attract top-flight coaches and their ability to put depth around any star player(s) they sign.
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I would also add a lifetime ban for Stallions and Harbaugh. I realize that neither is likely to ever coach in NCAA again, but it would still send a strong message......
 
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NFBuck said:
I guess this is kind of the bare minimum I need to see to be satisfied (and it is harsh because FUCK THEIR CHEATING ASSES):

- Removal of all recognition of their 2021-2023 seasons to include wins, the fugazi B1G championships, and their fugazi NC*
- 3 year postseason ban
- Significant recruiting restrictions
- 1 year suspension & show cause for Sniffles.
- Suspensions for any coaches involved in the scheme with show causes for any coach that was evasive or that outright mislead the NCAA
- Lifetime ban for Stalions.
- Significant fines & enhanced oversight on their program by the NCAA
- Thorough/aggressive public reprimand from the NCAA detailing their transgressions with names named.
- Kneel before Zod Day.

That, to me, would be as close to the "death penalty" as we will see in modern times. Now, will that impact their program as severely as we want? In today's CFB, I'm not sure. It will definitely hurt. But today's CFB with NIL isn't what it was 10 years ago. They may very well still be able to attract top recruits and field competent teams because money talks. CFB isn't about pride and pageantry like it used to be. Most top recruits look at it as a lucrative job now. If their donors still fork out $$$, they'll probably still get recruits. Where it will likely hurt the most would be their ability to attract top-flight coaches and their ability to put depth around any star player(s) they sign.
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I'd buy it.
 
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Zurp said:
I'm fairly confident that Moore got his position to keep him quiet about the whole operation. Hell hath no fury like an assistant coach who has dirt on your program and wants more than what he has. *ichigan knew that when they offered him the spot. Joe Paterno knew it when he gave a spot to McQueary.

He doesn't have any dirt on the program, anymore. Maybe Day purposely lost to *ichigan last year to ensure he'd be there a few more years.
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I think Moore keeps his job as well. Who could they get to coach them through what we hope will be a period of NCAA penalties galore anyway?
 
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NFBuck said:
- Lifetime ban for Stalions.
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Yikes.
Imagine if he doesn't get banned. And he zurps on somewhere else, and after 5 years or so he gets THAT program in trouble for cheating. Or... maybe he doesn't get that program in trouble... but he gets *ichigan in trouble, again. Maybe he goes to Penn State. And then for 5 years, *ichigan beats them by a total of 200-10. And it's found out that he's still working for *ichigan - he's relaying signals back to *ichigan. And they find out there's a whole network of double-agents working for *ichigan. Ha.
Anyway, anyone who hires Stalions is an idiot. Let's give them the chance to be idiots.
 
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