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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, etc.

I look at it as a bottomless pit of hatred. No matter how much you hated those fucks before, there is always room for more. My needle doesn't stop. Maybe you should look to upgrade.
Did some of you guys actually not hate them this much before all the cheating?

If they get nuked for cheating then great but my hate is kind of like absolute zero. You really can’t move the needle any farther.
Always reminds me of the idiots who would say “I want TCUN to be good so the games mean something”.

I freaking don’t. I honestly loved the time frame where they were losing to Toledo, losing big time to other schools and would melt when they played us.

I don’t want them to have a single win when we play them. Seriously I don’t think I’ve ever rooted for them in any of their games.
 
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Always reminds me of the idiots who would say “I want TCUN to be good so the games mean something”.

I freaking don’t. I honestly loved the time frame where they were losing to Toledo, losing big time to other schools and would melt when they played us.

I don’t want them to have a single win when we play them. Seriously I don’t think I’ve ever rooted for them in any of their games.
It pissed me off to no end. I don’t ever want those cock suckers to be good. I want them to suck always. I want them to lose always. Any Ohio State fan who felt or feels otherwise is one of those wine and cheese fans who complain about people standing at games. If you are one of those fans, fuck you, too. :)
 
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Always reminds me of the idiots who would say “I want TCUN to be good so the games mean something”.

I freaking don’t. I honestly loved the time frame where they were losing to Toledo, losing big time to other schools and would melt when they played us.

I don’t want them to have a single win when we play them. Seriously I don’t think I’ve ever rooted for them in any of their games.
I want them to lose every single game they play forever. Fuck them. Fuck the DFBIA. I love my schadenfreude.
 
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I lived my whole life in PA, so I didn't hate them at full Jax levels initially. I can remember seeing a Michigan jersey at a Wendy's one night after they beat Penn St and giving him a nod, and he gave me one back. I don't see myself ever doing that again. Ever.
Should have pissed in his Frosty
 
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There are several things that make this case unique in NCAA history. But one thing in particular stands out: Victims

The only other scandals that I can think of where there were victims were:
1) Some criminal at an institution victimized other members of the institution or people from the surrounding community (Sandusky et al)
2) The institution broke rules that robbed their own student-athletes of the education that was their only compensation for their skill at the time (North Carolina)

In both of the above cases, the victims were individuals. Not other teams.

OK... sure... when you play ineligible players, the other team has less of a chance of beating you. But to me that really tortures the definition of "victim". When you consider that some of our past All-Americans had stories of not having enough money to do laundry when they were in school (even though their tiny stipend was literally called "laundry money"): it seems clear that some of OSU's best players received no impermissible benefits. So did the players who did receive such benefits only attend Ohio State because of those benefits? I'm sorry, but that beggars belief; especially when those benefits were famously available elsewhere.

Semantics aside, there can be no quibbling about whether there are victims of the Cheaters' scheme. They stole signs from other teams using impermissible means. Then they used those stolen signs to gain a clear, unfair advantage. The people that they scouted and recorded (both of those things being illegal) were thus victimized directly by this scheme. Not some advantage obtained because some schools had more rogue boosters than others... A direct, intentional victimization of one institution by another.

The lengthy missive about what the COI is doing said that they like to check their boxes and stay "within the matrix". How in the blue hell is this anywhere in the vicinity of the matrix? This was not rogue boosters providing a difficult to quantify advantage. This was an institution stealing 3 straight championships when they had only been within sniffing distance of a championship once in the previous 10 season. Whatever precedent they think applies to this; they think wrong. As has been said many times before: There is no precedent. There is no matrix to fill out. This is something completely unique and it calls for a unique response. If it does not receive a unique response; I will officially be done with college football. I'm hanging on by my fingernails as it is.
Let’s not forget that USC(e) also apparently received the benefit of some of this work and then took out Tennessee and Clemson, putting up 94 points across those two games,

So, yes… not only were there teams they played who were victims of this, but they actively went through the effort to scout teams they may have to play and then handed off that information to a team they would never have to play to reduce the likelihood of having to play them.

Nuke it, salt the earth. Be done with it. I don’t care if they quit the sport or if the sport is taken away from them. Fuck them all for absolutely screwing with the integrity of all of those games.

Edit: For details regarding the above, if you can stomach listing to a Vol for a while… the video in @DaddyBigBucks post above speaks to what I mentioned. Good find.
 
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