2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, etc.

[sammyjenkis]

I don't think he would have gotten the passwords from the athletic training site....but like I said, crackers are easy to obtain and are usually very fast for most passwords. and since humans are creatures of habit and reuse things, you nailed it - easily repeatable/easily breakable.

Per Brohio, Weiss was able to defeat the poor security on the athletic system password database. From another comment of his on March 27th:

Second thing I want to address is the Weiss situation. I’ve noticed a sentiment of “how could a dumb jock football coach pull off something this complex?” I think that stems from misconceptions people have about hacking they’ve learned from the movies. Hacking isn’t furiously typing on a keyboard while binary code flies across the screen like in the Matrix. It’s heavily reliant on social engineering typically and in this case, Weiss essentially had a cheat sheet in the form of a large database containing email addresses and passwords which he would attempt to use across platforms in hopes women used the same passwords for their other personal accounts. The indictment mentioned he was researching pet names, maiden names etc. This is pretty telling of his methodology. These details are the most common answers to security questions that generate when you submit a password reset request. So he was likely breaking in to accounts he couldn’t access with a password directly (but had access to the email associated with the account) by submitting a password reset. The point I’m trying to make is that this is all very simple stuff.

 

[knuckifyoubuck]

Yeah. But 3,000 times? Imagine the man hours if he was guessing Maiden Name, Street You Grew Up On, etc.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

Hey now, the Matrix actually depicted hacking pretty accurately.

 

[Mike80]

Per Brohio, Weiss was able to defeat the poor security on the athletic system password database. From another comment of his on March 27th:

Second thing I want to address is the Weiss situation. I’ve noticed a sentiment of “how could a dumb jock football coach pull off something this complex?” I think that stems from misconceptions people have about hacking they’ve learned from the movies. Hacking isn’t furiously typing on a keyboard while binary code flies across the screen like in the Matrix. It’s heavily reliant on social engineering typically and in this case, Weiss essentially had a cheat sheet in the form of a large database containing email addresses and passwords which he would attempt to use across platforms in hopes women used the same passwords for their other personal accounts. The indictment mentioned he was researching pet names, maiden names etc. This is pretty telling of his methodology. These details are the most common answers to security questions that generate when you submit a password reset request. So he was likely breaking in to accounts he couldn’t access with a password directly (but had access to the email associated with the account) by submitting a password reset. The point I’m trying to make is that this is all very simple stuff.

Yeah...that's the password cracker I'm talking about in all likelihood. If it worked for the ATS site it would work on social media and email accounts.

However, that's just the ATS site itself, again NOT their emails and social media. While they could be using the same passwords, the actual systems are not connected in any meaningful way.

 

[Mike80]

Yeah. But 3,000 times? Imagine the man hours if he was guessing Maiden Name, Street You Grew Up On, etc.

Script kittys and bots man, script kittys and bots.

It's literally not very hard.

 

[Mike80]

Guys if Weiss was actually good at hacking and not using other people's tools and stuff, he would have covered his tracks better. But he was an amateur about it and left footprints. Nothing he's done is exactly advanced, and nothing he's done is gonna be super complicated.

 

[NFBuck]

Guys if Weiss was actually good at hacking and not using other people's tools and stuff, he would have covered his tracks better. But he was an amateur about it and left footprints. Nothing he's done is exactly advanced, and nothing he's done is gonna be super complicated.

Again, they certainly have a type.

 

[Mike80]

Again, they certainly have a type.

Bingo. Arrogant, blowhard, holier-than-thou wannabes who never quite got to be who they wanted to be, so they pretend or cosplay as close as they can.

Betcha $20 Weiss never faces trial. He'll plead out of it. He's a coward.

 

[TDunk]

Omega Enterprise. People are dumb.

 

[OHSportsFan]

Everyone is definitely going to distance themselves with the “rogue creeper” defense. Interested in Jim’s response now too.

I’ll wait to see what’s confirmed on the football related side. Otherwise, the only comment is fuck this guy.

 

[zbuck]

Everyone is definitely going to distance themselves with the “rogue creeper” defense. Interested in Jim’s response now too.

I’ll wait to see what’s confirmed on the football related side. Otherwise, the only comment is fuck this guy.

So do you think Roger G has the stones to start his own "investigation" given he has two franchises potentially involved ?

 

[Mike80]

Everyone is definitely going to distance themselves with the “rogue creeper” defense. Interested in Jim’s response now too.

I’ll wait to see what’s confirmed on the football related side. Otherwise, the only comment is fuck this guy.

I mean...he's gonna say the same thing about the Justin Tugger scenario too.

Willful ignorance is a defense if you're a Harbaugh apparently

 

[buckford]

Bingo. Arrogant, blowhard, holier-than-thou wannabes who never quite got to be who they wanted to be, so they pretend or cosplay as close as they can.

Betcha $20 Weiss never faces trial. He'll plead out of it. He's a coward.

Federal cases are usually a slam-dunk. In that system a defendant is expected to try to lessen his/her exposure by making a "proffer" to the government as to the facts of the case and the involvement of other individuals. That said, it is unlikely that such a proffer sees the light of day

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

So much fire around that program (Weiss, the pedo, Stallions, the WY LLC, the coach who instructed players not to cooperate) that it can't be anything but LOIC. And if the fbi told the administration a d they still let Weiss coach in the cfp that should be the headshot.

 

[ScriptOhio]

So much fire around that program (Weiss, the pedo, Stallions, the WY LLC, the coach who instructed players not to cooperate) that it can't be anything but LOIC. And if the fbi told the administration a d they still let Weiss coach in the cfp that should be the headshot.

premierdrum: 22 hours ago
For safety's sake, we'll call this "an informed summary."
Also, don't forget all the aggravating factors that will be considered by the committee:
- The university had direct knowledge or reasonable evidence to create awareness of several of these issues, but did not self report.
- Many members of the FB coaching staff and the department of athletics were uncooperative with the investigation.
- Multiple members of the FB coaching staff did not respond to written requests for materials despite their duty to cooperate as outlined by NCAA bylaws.
- "Abject defiance" by the university president and director of athletics.
- The university engaged in a broad and coordinated public relations campaign to discredit the sanctioning body and the investigation.
- University representation purposefully delayed the resolution process by failing to negotiate in good faith.
How does that sound? Good? I think it sounds good.

Just sayin': If that isn't LOIC nothing is.