2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, etc.

[LordJeffBuck]

Premierdrum on the Weiss/stolen practice footage allegations:



Conventional wisdom says that scUM would've cut a deal in the sign stealing scandal (Sign-gate) if the NCAA were only going to impose some fines and a few recruiting restrictions, and that scUM is fighting Sign-gate because the potential sanctions would be much more severe. This is probably part of the equaton.

However, if PD is correct and the NCAA has scUM "dead to rights" on the stolen practice footage case (Video-gate), then it is in scUM's best interest to fight Sign-gate to the bitter end regardless of the severity of the potential sanctions in that case. With scUM already taking the L in Burgergate and now possibly staring down major sanctions in Video-gate, then losing Sign-gate would make scUM a three-peat offender ... and who knows what kind of sanctions he NCAA would impose on a three-peat offender.

 

[scarletngray]

Bingo. Arrogant, blowhard, holier-than-thou wannabes who never quite got to be who they wanted to be, so they pretend or cosplay as close as they can.

Betcha $20 Weiss never faces trial. He'll plead out of it. He's a coward.

Over 90% of criminal trials (at least in Calif) end in plea deals. So just by percentages alone you would be right.

 

[ScriptOhio]

Over 90% of criminal trials (at least in Calif) end in plea deals. So just by percentages alone you would be right.

I had to "google" it since his case is in Detroit:

In federal courts, including Detroit, plea deals resolve roughly 90 to 98% of criminal cases, with the vast majority ending in guilty pleas rather than trials.

Re: Weiss faces 14 counts of unauthorized access to computers and 10 counts of aggravated identity theft. The maximum sentence includes five years in prison for each charge of unauthorized access and two years for each count of identity theft.

OK, if convicted, does he serve all the years that he is sentenced to consecutive or concurrently?

If they plea bargain the Federal charges wouldn't that limit what the NCAA might get in the "discovery" process? If so, would the NCAA wait for lawsuits by the victims against scUM and Weis to get more evidence/testimony before completing their investigation on this one, i.e. "VideoGate"?

 

[scarletngray]

I had to "google" it since his case is in Detroit:



Re: Weiss faces 14 counts of unauthorized access to computers and 10 counts of aggravated identity theft. The maximum sentence includes five years in prison for each charge of unauthorized access and two years for each count of identity theft.

OK, if convicted, does he serve all the years that he is sentenced to consecutive or concurrently?

If they plea bargain the Federal charges wouldn't that limit what the NCAA might get in the "discovery" process? If so, would the NCAA wait for lawsuits by the victims against scUM and Weis to get more evidence/testimony before completing their investigation on this one, i.e. "VideoGate"?

Not sure of the answers to your questions. But plea deals take place because there is an overwhelming, undeniable amount of evidence against the defendant. In addition, there just isn't enough man hours for an understaffed DA's office to try each case. And the defendant gets off with a lesser sentence than if it goes to full trial. This case, however, because of it's nature, could result in a refusal to enter into a plea agreement.

 

[NFBuck]

Some more recent PD:

Yes.

OSU was notified that one of their active logins was found saved on one of Weiss' devices. Subsequent investigation confirmed that access was made.

We broke here last week that a 2nd B1G team reported to the conference that their video server was accessed, and we worked with Ken and the Scoop guys to push that one further. Ken was able to confirm the 2nd school was PSU.

There are others - both in the B1G and elsewhere - that suspect similar. We don't have any confirmation of any of that yet, but the reporting from late '23 and early '24 is... interesting.

Who knew what, and when did they know it?

The arc of new information on this one is getting wild.

When the dust and ash settles, I'm confident they'll all wish it were only about Stalions, some iPhone video shot by his mom, and a nerdy spreadsheet.

These dirty fuckers are going to be under siege and in court for the foreseeable future. I hope it's uncomfortable as fuck. Couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch.

DPIA.

 

[ScriptOhio]

Not sure of the answers to your questions. But plea deals take place because there is an overwhelming, undeniable amount of evidence against the defendant. In addition, there just isn't enough man hours for an understaffed DA's office to try each case. And the defendant gets off with a lesser sentence than if it goes to full trial. This case, however, because of it's nature, could result in a refusal to enter into a plea agreement.

Just sayin': Yeah, a conviction or guilty plea would instantly open the floodgate for over 150,000 victims (and possibility even 100 colleges) to get financial compensation, etc. The total financial compensation could easily end up being in the 9 figures too. This just couldn't happen to a better university, don't you just love it?........

2 former University of Michigan athletes sue ex-football coach Matt Weiss, university

Weiss, 42, was charged on March 20 with 14 counts of unauthorized access to computers and 10 counts of aggravated identity theft. The lawsuit was filed in federal court on March 21.

www.cbsnews.com

2 former University of Michigan athletes sue ex-football coach Matt Weiss, university

Two former University of Michigan student-athletes have filed a federal lawsuit against former quarterbacks coach Matt Weiss, the university, its board of regents and Keffer Development Services after Weiss was indicted last week on federal charges accusing him of hacking the personal accounts of thousands of athletes across the country to steal "intimate" videos and photos.

The lawsuit was filed on behalf of a member of the University of Michigan's women's gymnastics team between 2017 and 2018, and a member of the school's women's soccer program from 2017 to 2023.

The two allege that they are among the thousands of victims Weiss targeted and that "Because of the Regents' and the University's policy and/or practice of deliberate indifference, Plaintiffs had their privacy invaded and were sexually harassed by Weiss."
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Prosecutors allege that between 2015 and January 2023, Weiss hacked student-athlete databases of more than 100 colleges that were maintained by a third-party vendor, Pennsylvania-based Keffer Development Services. Once he gained access to the databases, Weiss allegedly downloaded "personally identifiable information and medical data of more than 150,000 athletes."

Weiss reportedly primarily targeted female student-athletes.
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[BuckeyeNation27]

This is the wildcard.

If Sherrone is axed in the wake of penalties, what kind of coach is going to take that job? I'd guess they would really struggle to find someone. If Moore survives, a lot will probably depend on how this season goes. If they can cobble together a decent season, that might be enough to sell some recruits on their program. If they go 6-6 or something like that, cannot imagine much enthusiasm.

The way I'm reading things, I have a hard time seeing Sherrone, or anybody else currently under their employ keeping their job.

Maybe they lure woodson to sully his reputation.

 

[Oh8ch]

Given today's climate in CFB, I truly wonder how much impact sanctions will have on their recruiting. If they have a booster willing to throw millions at these kids, how many of them will care if they don't get to play in a postseason? If they're just looking for a pay day (and I'm sure a lot of them are), I would guess tCun will still get their share of top recruits that are just looking for a bag.

They can over pay for all the recruits that are just looking for a bag as they like. That team will fail.

 

[NFBuck]

Maybe they lure woodson to sully his reputation.

Or Desmond.

Or Bike Hart...oh, wait...

 

[buckeyemania11]

Can't wait for the "THINK OF THE KIDS!" shit from DFBIA when it comes to scUM football getting bad publicity/sanctions for this stuff. Because we should only care about the kids on the football team and not those whos privacy was completely violated by this freak.

 

[AKAK]

Can't wait for the "THINK OF THE KIDS!" shit from DFBIA when it comes to scUM football getting bad publicity/sanctions for this stuff. Because we should only care about the kids on the football team and not those whos privacy was completely violated by this freak.

FTK

 

[buckeyemania11]

FTK

Any kid willingly signing up to go there at this point should damn well know what they are jumping into. I have no sympathy for any of them if shit really does hit the fan uncontrollably.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

Can't wait for the "THINK OF THE KIDS!" shit from DFBIA when it comes to scUM football getting bad publicity/sanctions for this stuff. Because we should only care about the kids on the football team and not those whos privacy was completely violated by this freak.

Oh yes. We're some months away from a chorus of "how can you punish the current student athletes based on the actions of adults that aren't even here anymore?"

WE TRIED TO PUNISH THEM BACK THEN AND YALL WERE HAVING NONE OF IT.

 

[zbuck]

Premierdrum on the Weiss/stolen practice footage allegations:

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Conventional wisdom says that scUM would've cut a deal in the sign stealing scandal (Sign-gate) if the NCAA were only going to impose some fines and a few recruiting restrictions, and that scUM is fighting Sign-gate because the potential sanctions would be much more severe. This is probably part of the equaton.

However, if PD is correct and the NCAA has scUM "dead to rights" on the stolen practice footage case (Video-gate), then it is in scUM's best interest to fight Sign-gate to the bitter end regardless of the severity of the potential sanctions in that case. With scUM already taking the L in Burgergate and now possibly staring down major sanctions in Video-gate, then losing Sign-gate would make scUM a three-peat offender ... and who knows what kind of sanctions he NCAA would impose on a three-peat offender.

It will be fun though.

And it’s the only “ThreePeat” that SCUM has a legitimate chance at …

 

[jakenick06]

Can't wait for the "THINK OF THE KIDS!" shit from DFBIA when it comes to scUM football getting bad publicity/sanctions for this stuff. Because we should only care about the kids on the football team and not those whos privacy was completely violated by this freak.