2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, Arrogant Twatwaffles, Emasculated Cucks, Feckless Marmots, Dirty Cheaters "Mid"chigan

[buckeyemania11]

He got it to keep the ship afloat during a tumultuous time, in a there is nothing to see here type of way. Ironically it worked fine.

The money they have gotten to throw at recruits now will keep the ship afloat more than anything. It takes them from possibly sinking to .500 type seasons annually bad to being about the same mundane ok enough but not really a threat at all they were pre 2020 under Harbaugh. Moore is a average at best coach and yes not as good as Harbaugh but the money will buy a few players Harbaugh coujda never dreamed of.

 

[Powair7s]

If they are unwilling to punish current athletes, the only way to punish the people there during the cheating is to remove their accomplishments. The NCAA did neither.

 

[sammyjenkis]

That actually may be a negative for TTUN in the long run. If he got a one year show cause, and had grounds to fire him, they could go out and swipe at a bigger hire. Now they are kind of married to each other.

Worst case scenario would have been Gruden replacing Moore.

 

[woofermazing]

Lmao they are appealing.

 

[BB73]

Lmao they are appealing.

The response to the appeal should include taking away a bunch of wins from ’21 thru ‘23.

 

[Buckeneye]

Lmao they are appealing.

Why not? NCAA just rolled over. Might as well make them a doormat.

 

[dragurd]

The response to the appeal should include taking away a bunch of wins from ’21 thru ‘23.

Can we get a completely new COI on appeal throw these bums in the street

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

NCAA Committee on Infractions Didn’t Consider Vacating Michigan Wins, Says There Was “Insufficient Evidence” Sign-Stealing Scheme Changed Outcome of Games

The NCAA didn’t vacate Michigan wins because it didn’t have ineligible players and “insufficient evidence” that the Wolverines’ sign-stealing scheme changed the outcome of games.

www.elevenwarriors.com

OK, so... insufficient evidence to know if the outcome of games were affected. How about, as a matter of Rule, they were caught by "overwhelming evidence" of ... wait for it... impermissible behavior. The mere fact that it is ... wait for it .. impermissible is sufficient to establish that any benefit conferred by the ... IMPERMISSIBLE behavior... should be returned to zero. Consequently, vacate the wins. It's not tough.

 

[RuGettinIt]

NCAA Committee on Infractions Didn’t Consider Vacating Michigan Wins, Says There Was “Insufficient Evidence” Sign-Stealing Scheme Changed Outcome of Games

The NCAA didn’t vacate Michigan wins because it didn’t have ineligible players and “insufficient evidence” that the Wolverines’ sign-stealing scheme changed the outcome of games.

www.elevenwarriors.com

OK, so... insufficient evidence to know if the outcome of games were affected. How about, as a matter of Rule, they were caught by "overwhelming evidence" of ... wait for it... impermissible behavior. The mere fact that it is ... wait for it .. impermissible is sufficient to establish that any benefit conferred by the ... IMPERMISSIBLE behavior... should be returned to zero. Consequently, vacate the wins. It's not tough.

What about intent? If there was no intent to ensure a favorable outcome then why would they have done it?

 

[dragurd]

NCAA Committee on Infractions Didn’t Consider Vacating Michigan Wins, Says There Was “Insufficient Evidence” Sign-Stealing Scheme Changed Outcome of Games

The NCAA didn’t vacate Michigan wins because it didn’t have ineligible players and “insufficient evidence” that the Wolverines’ sign-stealing scheme changed the outcome of games.

www.elevenwarriors.com

OK, so... insufficient evidence to know if the outcome of games were affected. How about, as a matter of Rule, they were caught by "overwhelming evidence" of ... wait for it... impermissible behavior. The mere fact that it is ... wait for it .. impermissible is sufficient to establish that any benefit conferred by the ... IMPERMISSIBLE behavior... should be returned to zero. Consequently, vacate the wins. It's not tough.

Someone should have asked him straight up if someone was caught hacking headsets for 2.5 years would you vacate games. And if he sayid no call him out on not protecting integrity of the competition and if he said yes ask him what's the difference between hearing it words and knowing signs by illicit means?

 

[buckeyemania11]

It's clear they really only cared about getting Harbaugh. Except that does fucking nothing since he's long gone and never coming back

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

What about intent? If there was no intent to ensure a favorable outcome then why would they have done it?

Exactly. The scouting they did is "illegal" That alone means it confers a benefit beyond what the Rules say are permissible. I mean, you're not wrong about intent. It bolsters the argument, for sure. But I don't think you even need to get to intent.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

Someone should have asked him straight up if someone was caught hacking headsets for 2.5 years would you vacate games. And if he sayid no call him out on not protecting integrity of the competition and if he said yes ask him what's the difference between hearing it words and knowing signs by illicit means?

That's the biggest head scratcher to me. The integrity of the competition just took a pretty major blow. It's why people are talking about walking away from CFB. I am not gonna go that far. I will still watch Ohio State football. I don't watch near as much CFB as I used to anyway, and I'll probably watch about that or less now... It's more a matter of if there's anything else to do and what else might be on that prevents me from having to listen to the talking heads talk about the same shit over and over.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

NCAA Committee on Infractions Didn’t Consider Vacating Michigan Wins, Says There Was “Insufficient Evidence” Sign-Stealing Scheme Changed Outcome of Games

The NCAA didn’t vacate Michigan wins because it didn’t have ineligible players and “insufficient evidence” that the Wolverines’ sign-stealing scheme changed the outcome of games.

www.elevenwarriors.com

OK, so... insufficient evidence to know if the outcome of games were affected. How about, as a matter of Rule, they were caught by "overwhelming evidence" of ... wait for it... impermissible behavior. The mere fact that it is ... wait for it .. impermissible is sufficient to establish that any benefit conferred by the ... IMPERMISSIBLE behavior... should be returned to zero. Consequently, vacate the wins. It's not tough.

The fucking guy said it himself:

• "You don't put together an elaborate network called the 'KGB' ... spend tens of thousands of dollars ... unless you intend to gain a significant competitive advantage," Bay said.

How the fuck do you punish the competitive adv... sorry... the SIGNIFICANT competitive advantage? You negate that advantage, you fucking clown.

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

Exactly. The scouting they did is "illegal" That alone means it confers a benefit beyond what the Rules say are permissible. I mean, you're not wrong about intent. It bolsters the argument, for sure. But I don't think you even need to get to intent.

Yeah, I broke into the house, but you can’t prove I actually stole anything, so you can’t charge me with B&E, right? This is chicanery. What a sick joke.