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TampaBuckeyes said:
The AP voters did even better this week. Ole Piss jumped Oregon this week due to their gutsy win over the citadel.
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That could be due to voter laziness. Many of these voters take the previous poll and then just move teams around based on that week’s losses or big game results.

But this week some of those voters would have started with last week’s CFP rankings (where Oregon was #9), instead of last week’s AP rankings.
 
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They should really stop the rankings at like 15.

Teams getting extra bonus points for beating teams like Missouri and Tennessee who have 3 losses and both only have 1 win against .500 P4 teams teams (Miss State and Kansas) is a joke. There's not much of a gap between the 3 loss P4 schools but some get extra credit because they have to rank 25 teams. (And we all know who this extra credit is usually awarded to)
 
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Gizmo said:
They did pick a number. That number is 25 and has been forever.
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I don't think they did.
I haven't looked at the polls this week, but last week, there was no G5 team in the top 25. But Memphis was put into the 12 spot.
I'm saying that that the rule should be that if you aren't in the top X teams (whatever X is), you aren't in the playoffs, no matter which other criteria you meet.
If no G5 team (*conference winner) makes it into the top 25, then no G5 team should be in the playoff.
Same goes for ACC, SEC, Big Ten, whatever. I mean, I can't really imagine a situation where a P4 conference winner isn't in the top 25, but if you aren't in the top 25, I don't care how many conferences you won, you aren't in the playoff.
That's my vote.
 
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Zurp said:
I don't think they did.
I haven't looked at the polls this week, but last week, there was no G5 team in the top 25. But Memphis was put into the 12 spot.
I'm saying that that the rule should be that if you aren't in the top X teams (whatever X is), you aren't in the playoffs, no matter which other criteria you meet.
If no G5 team (*conference winner) makes it into the top 25, then no G5 team should be in the playoff.
Same goes for ACC, SEC, Big Ten, whatever. I mean, I can't really imagine a situation where a P4 conference winner isn't in the top 25, but if you aren't in the top 25, I don't care how many conferences you won, you aren't in the playoff.
That's my vote.
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Oh, I misunderstood what you were saying. I thought you meant they should pick a number for polls to count as "ranked", and didn't equate that to the playoffs. I don't really care what the playoff committee does as far as selecting the 12 "best teams", meeting automatic bid requirements, there are always going to be arguments about who was in and left out. I would like to see the ranking system taken down to like a top 10, and solely for talk points. Everyone knows that the rankings are made up and arbitrary and hold no actual weight, especially the further back you get. Just do a classic "top 10" list, which is A) more clear in narrowing down some of the "best" teams from "the rest" and B) more defined and honest. I feel like right now the polls are just writers and coaches (let's be honest though, more likely aides to those folks) probably putting effort into the first 10 or so, and then just filling out the rest based on their prior rating, or pulling names from a hat, etc. Nothing after 15 matters in the grand scheme anyway, other than for the SEC to thump their chest. Keep it simple. Pick your 10 best teams, find the cumulative 10 best teams, and occasionally there's a top 10 game on the schedule to pimp.

My real fix action would never happen, but I'd love to see 12 conferences of 10 teams each. 9 Conference games determine a champion, who makes the 12 team playoff (which is seeded by a committee, no selection process, just seeds). 3 Non-conference games at the beginning of the season to serve both as a chance to warm-up/get to know your team, and a chance to "look good" against other conferences when trying to earn a 1st round bye or host the 1st round, should you make the tournament. Otherwise, these games don't matter in terms of making the playoffs, much like an NFL pre-season. Here, you could get those marquee games out of conference without it hurting either team in the long run. These games allow you to test some things (can your kicker make that 60 yard FG? Still uncertain of your QB battle, test them both out these 3 games, etc.)
 
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Play golf with a Domer. He said he's happy they're 12th, so will get into the playoff. Said "not so fast, my friend', just because you're #12 isn't a guarantee. There could be a #18 that wins their league, which may make them the 'highest ranking' non-bigboy league champ. Which gives them a slot in the playoffs....sobered him up pretty quickly. Now, given the unthinkable proclivity to kow-towing to ND, would believe they'd 'find' a way to get them, probably knocking out a higher ranked team. Put them out of the playoffs for the above reason, and would betcha that ND finds a conference to join. Woah if it's the B10, because betcha they'll 'negotiate' for a full share of TV revenue, AND to keep their NBC contract at the same time, and the wimps will allow this. After all, the B10 has been wooing ND for decades.....
 
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calibuck said:
Play golf with a Domer.
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I see your problem, already.
Also, Notre Dame is 9th. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ot...d-top-25-reveal/ar-AA1Qftma?ocid=BingNewsSerp
But, it's not just G5 winners that can knock Notre Dame out. Any conference winner can do it. As it stands right now, the top ACC teams are #15 Miami and #16 Georgia Tech.
I would guess that it's highly likely that #9 gets in the playoffs - they'd need 4 of the top 5 conference winners to be below #9. But, as it stands, #11 Oklahoma and #12 BYU are out of the playoffs
 
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The Top 10 in AP's Preseason poll:

1. Texas (25)
2. Penn State (23)
3. Ohio State (11)
4. Clemson (4)
5. Georgia (1)
6. Notre Dame
7. Oregon (1)
8. Alabama
9. LSU
10. Miami

Now after week 13:

1. Texas (25) 3 losses and won't make the CFPs
2. Penn State (23) 6 losses and won't make the CFPs... :lol:
3. Ohio State (11) 0 losses
4. Clemson (4) 5 losses and won't make the CFPs
5. Georgia (1) 1 loss
6. Notre Dame 2 losses
7. Oregon (1) 1 loss
8. Alabama 2 losses
9. LSU 4 losses and won't make the CFPs
10. Miami 2 losses and hanging onto CFP hopes by a thread.

Just sayin': Just about the only 3 teams the AP voters got right in the Top 10 of their Preseason Poll were Ohio State, Georgia, and Oregon. Alabama and Notre Dame may be in the Top 10; however, I don't think that the pollsters expected them to have the 2 losses that they currently have at this point in the season. The 2 surprise teams were Indiana (who was ranked #20) and Texas A&M (who was ranked #19); and are both currently undefeated.
 
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Coaches poll. 2 of them still voting for aTm.

Rank Team Record PTS 1st Prev Chg Hi/Lo
1 Ohio State 10-0 1573 61 1 - 1/2
2 Indiana 11-0 1497 0 2 - 2/21
3 Texas A&M 10-0 1457 2 3 - 3/22
4 Georgia 9-1 1381 0 5 +1 3/10
5 Oregon 9-1 1285 0 6 +1 2/9
6 Ole Miss 10-1 1268 0 7 +1 4/15
7 Texas Tech 10-1 1213 0 8 +1 7/24
8 Oklahoma 8-2 1099 0 10 +2 6/NR
9 Notre Dame 8-2 1064 0 9 - 5/21
10 Alabama 8-2 976 0 4 -6 4/20
11 BYU 9-1 923 0 12 +1 8/NR
12 Georgia Tech 9-1 815 0 12 - 7/NR
13 Vanderbilt 8-2 777 0 14 +1 11/NR
14 Utah 8-2 748 0 15 +1 14/NR
15 Miami (FL) 8-2 707 0 16 +1 2/18
16 USC 8-2 610 0 18 +2 16/NR
17 Michigan 8-2 587 0 17 - 13/NR
18 Texas 7-3 521 0 10 -8 1/19
19 Virginia 9-2 455 0 19 - 11/NR
20 Tennessee 7-3 403 0 20 - 11/22
21 Missouri 7-3 220 0 24 +3 14/NR
22 James Madison 9-1 201 0 25 +3 22/NR
23 North Texas 9-1 164 0 NR +4 23/NR
24 Houston 8-2 144 0 NR +5 22/NR
25 Tulane 8-2 96 0 NR +5 25/NR

Schools Dropped Out​

No. 21 Louisville; No. 22 Cincinnati; No. 23 Pittsburgh;

Others Receiving Votes​

Navy 56; SMU 42; Illinois 34; Washington 28; Iowa 24; Arizona 23; Louisville 21; San Diego State 19; Arizona State 16; Pittsburgh 13; Nebraska 12; East Carolina 3;
 
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AP poll. Oregon and Texas Tech tied for 6th. Bama dropped 6, Texas dropped 7 spots.

Released November 16

RANKTEAMSTRENDTHIS WEEKPOINTS
1 Ohio State 10-0 Big Ten vs. UCLA W 48-10 1639 (57)
2 Indiana 11-0 Big Ten vs. Wisconsin W 31-7 1588 (8)
3 Texas A&M 10-0 Southeastern vs. South Carolina W 31-30 1520 (1)
4 Georgia 9-1 Southeastern vs. Texas W 35-10 1447 (0)
5 Ole Miss 10-1 Southeastern vs. Florida W 34-24 1331 (0)
6 Texas Tech 10-1 Big 12 vs. UCF W 48-9 1299 (0)
6 Oregon 9-1 Big Ten vs. Minnesota W 42-13 1299 (0)
8 Oklahoma 8-2 Southeastern @ Alabama W 23-21 1162 (0)
9 Notre Dame 8-2 IA Independents @ Pittsburgh W 37-15 1130 (0)
10 Alabama 8-2 Southeastern vs. Oklahoma L 23-21 1062 (0)
11 BYU 9-1 Big 12 vs. TCU W 44-13 992 (0)
12 Vanderbilt 8-2 Southeastern 833 (0)
13 Utah 8-2 Big 12 @ Baylor W 55-28 795 (0)
14 Miami (FL) 8-2 Atlantic Coast vs. North Carolina State W 41-7 773 (0)
15 Georgia Tech 9-1 Atlantic Coast @ Boston College W 36-34 768 (0)
16 USC 8-2 Big Ten vs. Iowa W 26-21 707 (0)
17 Texas 7-3 Southeastern @ Georgia L 35-10 564 (0)
18 Michigan 8-2 Big Ten @ Northwestern W 24-22 547 (0)
19 Virginia 9-2 Atlantic Coast @ Duke W 34-17 476 (0)
20 Tennessee 7-3 Southeastern 1 vs. New Mexico State W 42-9 360 (0)
21 James Madison 9-1 Sun Belt vs. Appalachian State W 58-10 294 (0)
22 North Texas 9-1 American @ UAB W 53-24 186 (0)
23 Missouri 7-3 Southeastern vs. Mississippi State W 49-27 173 (0)
24 Tulane 8-2 American vs. Florida Atlantic W 35-24 167 (0)
25 Houston 8-2 Big 12107 (0)

OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES:​

Navy 61, Illinois 31, SMU 28, Arizona St. 19, Louisville 17, Iowa 14, Pittsburgh 12, San Diego St. 12, Arizona 9, UNLV 9, Washington 8, South Florida 6, East Carolina 4, UConn 1.
 
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