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Valenti actually seems broken whenever he talks about Sparty now. Just doesn't have it in him. I don't blame him.
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Can we please make an ACC specific thread for the season? Seems like there's probably enough material just this week to fill a couple pages and then some...
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He's paid to watch the Wolverines, Spartans, and Lions, and then talk about them five days a week.
He may indeed be broken.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
Pac-12 admits refs botched Arizona State-Michigan State ending
No. 24 Arizona State beat Michigan State 10-7 on Saturday, a win that was preserved by a 12-men-on-the-field penalty that wiped away a game-tying field goal for the Spartans. Matt Coghlin‘s second attempt, this one from 47 yards, sailed wide right, allowing the Sun Devils to hold on for the win.
But it turns out there should have been a second penalty called.
The Pac-12 has announced its officials missed a penalty on Arizona State on Coghlin’s second, missed attempt.
“An Arizona State defensive player took a running start and leapt over the kicking team’s line in an attempt to block the kick. In the process, he leapt into the frame of the body of an opponent. The penalty would have been 15 yards from the previous spot and an automatic first down.
In this case, it would have been administered as half the distance to the goal and Michigan State would have been provided one untimed down.”
That penalty would have moved the Spartans up to the Arizona State 14-yard line, giving Coghlin a third attempt from just 31 yards out.
The Pac-12 provided no word on what, if any, internal accountability the officiating crew that missed such a crucial penalty will face.
Entire article: https://collegefootballtalk.nbcspor...-botched-arizona-state-michigan-state-ending/
No. 24 Arizona State beat Michigan State 10-7 on Saturday, a win that was preserved by a 12-men-on-the-field penalty that wiped away a game-tying field goal for the Spartans. Matt Coghlin‘s second attempt, this one from 47 yards, sailed wide right, allowing the Sun Devils to hold on for the win.
But it turns out there should have been a second penalty called.
The Pac-12 has announced its officials missed a penalty on Arizona State on Coghlin’s second, missed attempt.
“An Arizona State defensive player took a running start and leapt over the kicking team’s line in an attempt to block the kick. In the process, he leapt into the frame of the body of an opponent. The penalty would have been 15 yards from the previous spot and an automatic first down.
In this case, it would have been administered as half the distance to the goal and Michigan State would have been provided one untimed down.”
That penalty would have moved the Spartans up to the Arizona State 14-yard line, giving Coghlin a third attempt from just 31 yards out.
The Pac-12 provided no word on what, if any, internal accountability the officiating crew that missed such a crucial penalty will face.
Entire article: https://collegefootballtalk.nbcspor...-botched-arizona-state-michigan-state-ending/
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cincibuck
You kids stay off my lawn!
Tennessee holds up the best in that comparison thanks to the 30s, 40s and 50s. Miami and Florida (and Clemson and Florida State)
have a good deal of mediocrity around a few outstanding years. I used Statssen's All Time records and cut things off at 1980 - interesting - UT came in at 11, but Miami and Florida were far behind with Florida at 70. The Bucks were 9th behind such luminaries as Yale. Think I'll go back and use 1950 to 2018 and see how things shake out.
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cincibuck
You kids stay off my lawn!
Using Statssen's All Time records - 1950 to 2018 pretty much proves what most of BP contends - Michigan and Notre Dame live off of past glory.
1 Boise State 0.77206 314 92 2 408
2 Ohio State 0.76968 589 171 15 775
3 Oklahoma 0.76319 616 187 12 815
4 Alabama 0.72632 582 214 17 813
5 Penn State 0.72368 574 217 7 798
6 Nebraska 0.70828 577 235 9 821
7 Michigan 0.69911 543 230 13 786
8 Texas 0.69678 558 240 10 808
9 Southern Cal 0.69221 541 235 20 796
10 Notre Dame 0.67766 528 248 12 788
11 Florida State 0.67484 528 250 17 795
12 Georgia 0.66749 532 260 20 812
13 Florida 0.66687 529 260 17 806
14 Tennessee 0.66420 528 262 20 810
15 Auburn 0.66333 524 263 12 799
16 Louisiana State 0.65714 518 265 22 805
17 Miami-Florida 0.64855 510 275 6 791
18 Clemson 0.64599 508 275 15 798
19 Arizona State
1 Boise State 0.77206 314 92 2 408
2 Ohio State 0.76968 589 171 15 775
3 Oklahoma 0.76319 616 187 12 815
4 Alabama 0.72632 582 214 17 813
5 Penn State 0.72368 574 217 7 798
6 Nebraska 0.70828 577 235 9 821
7 Michigan 0.69911 543 230 13 786
8 Texas 0.69678 558 240 10 808
9 Southern Cal 0.69221 541 235 20 796
10 Notre Dame 0.67766 528 248 12 788
11 Florida State 0.67484 528 250 17 795
12 Georgia 0.66749 532 260 20 812
13 Florida 0.66687 529 260 17 806
14 Tennessee 0.66420 528 262 20 810
15 Auburn 0.66333 524 263 12 799
16 Louisiana State 0.65714 518 265 22 805
17 Miami-Florida 0.64855 510 275 6 791
18 Clemson 0.64599 508 275 15 798
19 Arizona State
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cincibuck
You kids stay off my lawn!
Pac-12 admits refs botched Arizona State-Michigan State ending
No. 24 Arizona State beat Michigan State 10-7 on Saturday, a win that was preserved by a 12-men-on-the-field penalty that wiped away a game-tying field goal for the Spartans. Matt Coghlin‘s second attempt, this one from 47 yards, sailed wide right, allowing the Sun Devils to hold on for the win.
But it turns out there should have been a second penalty called.
The Pac-12 has announced its officials missed a penalty on Arizona State on Coghlin’s second, missed attempt.
“An Arizona State defensive player took a running start and leapt over the kicking team’s line in an attempt to block the kick. In the process, he leapt into the frame of the body of an opponent. The penalty would have been 15 yards from the previous spot and an automatic first down.
In this case, it would have been administered as half the distance to the goal and Michigan State would have been provided one untimed down.”
That penalty would have moved the Spartans up to the Arizona State 14-yard line, giving Coghlin a third attempt from just 31 yards out.
The Pac-12 provided no word on what, if any, internal accountability the officiating crew that missed such a crucial penalty will face.
Entire article: https://collegefootballtalk.nbcspor...-botched-arizona-state-michigan-state-ending/
Woody and Bo lost some NCs in the Rose Bowl due to PAC officials until the Big Ten insisted on refs from outside both conferences.
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