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Game Thread 2017 B1G Championship Game: OSU vs. Wisconsin - 12/2/17 @ 8:00 ET (FOX)

For everyone mentioning Alabama, do you honestly, objectively think we beat Bama 1v1 this year?

I've watched a lot of Alabama over the past few years (more than I've ever wanted to), and let me tell you - there is only 1 way a game against them can end if we play a non-passing QB.
Yes. We can run and stop the run, that how you beat Bama. Only takes JT to have a decent game. Clemson will murder them
 
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For everyone mentioning Alabama, do you honestly, objectively think we beat Bama 1v1 this year?

I've watched a lot of Alabama over the past few years (more than I've ever wanted to), and let me tell you - there is only 1 way a game against them can end if we play a non-passing QB.
You make a good argument. Then again Alabama played a game against a non-passing QB and they only won by a TD.:shrug:
 
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This game was bittersweet. I don't feel UW was cheated because it played uncharacteristically poorly or anything. At the same time, it proved that UW is not quite up there with the top 4-5 teams. We maximize everything we have more than any other program in the country and are better than about 20 programs we should be trailing. It's only a small handful of teams that UW is looking up to. We are close. We can definitely win a national title despite the built-in disadvantages we have. But, there is a difference. Games like this show it. Down 6 with 2:30 to go and a Big Ten title and national playoff on the line, and UW's biggest playmaker is a walk-on RB who started the season like 6th on the depth chart. It's not a knock on Garrett Groshek at all. Great story, good player and kids like him are the reason UW succeeds the way it does. But we need more playmaking to take that next step. When you get to this level, the top teams are pretty solid across the board. UW has that. UW even had pretty good depth this year. But the elite teams in the playoff have players who can make 2-3 great plays that turn the game. UW might have that capability on its roster now. They just weren't there yet on Saturday night.
 
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This game was bittersweet. I don't feel UW was cheated because it played uncharacteristically poorly or anything. At the same time, it proved that UW is not quite up there with the top 4-5 teams. We maximize everything we have more than any other program in the country and are better than about 20 programs we should be trailing. It's only a small handful of teams that UW is looking up to. We are close. We can definitely win a national title despite the built-in disadvantages we have. But, there is a difference. Games like this show it. Down 6 with 2:30 to go and a Big Ten title and national playoff on the line, and UW's biggest playmaker is a walk-on RB who started the season like 6th on the depth chart. It's not a knock on Garrett Groshek at all. Great story, good player and kids like him are the reason UW succeeds the way it does. But we need more playmaking to take that next step. When you get to this level, the top teams are pretty solid across the board. UW has that. UW even had pretty good depth this year. But the elite teams in the playoff have players who can make 2-3 great plays that turn the game. UW might have that capability on its roster now. They just weren't there yet on Saturday night.


No offense but I think you are over estimating how close Wisconsin is.

That game was a few OSU unforced errors away from being a complete blowout.

The argument can be made that Wisconsin benefits from m being in a weak division and this CCG showed how that allows them to have a punchers chance in any given year if the team from the east plays poorly and leaves them in the game.

I do agree Wisconsin gets more out of less than any team in America
 
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No offense but I think you are over estimating how close Wisconsin is.

That game was a few OSU unforced errors away from being a complete blowout.

The argument can be made that Wisconsin benefits from m being in a weak division and this CCG showed how that allows them to have a punchers chance in any given year if the team from the east plays poorly and leaves them in the game.

I do agree Wisconsin gets more out of less than any team in America
Jesus man the dude's soul is already crushed. No need to piss on it too.:rofl:
 
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No offense but I think you are over estimating how close Wisconsin is.

That game was a few OSU unforced errors away from being a complete blowout.

The argument can be made that Wisconsin benefits from m being in a weak division and this CCG showed how that allows them to have a punchers chance in any given year if the team from the east plays poorly and leaves them in the game.

I do agree Wisconsin gets more out of less than any team in America

I was thinking we were just a few long balls away from a 2014 type game myself. Once again the best RB was on our team. Defense shut down a great RB.
 
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No offense but I think you are over estimating how close Wisconsin is.

That game was a few OSU unforced errors away from being a complete blowout.

The argument can be made that Wisconsin benefits from m being in a weak division and this CCG showed how that allows them to have a punchers chance in any given year if the team from the east plays poorly and leaves them in the game.

I do agree Wisconsin gets more out of less than any team in America
Nah, you're right, I came in a little hot with that one.

The consensus around here is that the Andersen years put a dent into in-state recruiting as well as the S&C program. Dude burned a lot of bridges with the high school coaches in the state, which is a killer when you lean on those guys so much. Chryst is working to get those things back up to par. Ultimately if Wisconsin can climb into top 20ish territory in national recruiting rankings, it would go a long way.

ETA: I do miss playing the better East teams on a regular basis, because it's a good measuring stick. Sure, the geographic divisions make sense, but until Nebraska gets back up to speed, Wisconsin is stuck without a true barometer for 6/8 games of the year. Two of the three crossover games at least improve next year (@ Michigan, @ Penn State).
 
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I'm wondering which game had the higher ratings tonight, OSU vs Wisky or Canes vs Clemson?

I'll bet it will be OSU/Wisky and it won't even be close.

TV Ratings Saturday: Big Ten Championship scores big for FOX, ‘SNL’ down a little

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Show Adults 18-49 rating.......................share......Viewers (millions)

Big Ten Championship (FOX) (8-11 p.m.)..... 3.2/13..... 11.58

ACC Championship (ABC) (8-11 p.m.)......... 1.6/7........ 5.55

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tv-ratings-saturday-dec-2-2017/
 
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FILM STUDY: LEAVING STYLE POINTS ON THE FIELD IN THE BIG TEN TITLE GAME

Sometimes the 'how' matters more than the 'what.'



On paper, last Saturday's Big Ten Championship Game victory over Wisconsin should've been enough to vault Ohio State into the College Football Playoff. By beating the previously undefeated Badgers, Urban Meyer's Buckeyes notched a victory more impressive than any recorded by Clemson, Georgia, or Alabama.

But the most common discussion echoing around the college football world in the week leading up to conference championship weekend was the need for Ohio State to not only beat their opponent in Indianapolis but to do so in dominant fashion. As we know now, their 27-21 victory clearly wasn't enough, as the Buckeyes will be spending the month of December preparing to face the USC Trojans in Dallas instead of the Tigers, Sooners, or Bulldogs.

The silver bullet defense held up to their end of the bargain by stuffing the vaunted Badger running game, holding one of the conference's best offenses to a season-low 298 yards and 4.08 yards-per-play. Throughout the first quarter, it seemed as though the OSU offense had followed suit against the Badgers' top-ranked defense.

Though they've rarely relied on the deep ball in 2017, opting to lean instead on underneath crossing patterns to move the ball aerially, the Buckeyes opened the scoring as J.T. Barrett hit Terry McLaurin for an 84-yard touchdown. Having seen quarters coverage from the Badgers on every one of their first six offensive snaps, coordinators Kevin Wilson and Ryan Day dialed up a wrinkle on Saints, one of their favorite concepts, by adding a bubble screen decoy from an ineligible receiver to distract the strong safety.



As the Badgers sat in their conservative 3-4 alignment with quarters coverage, OSU coordinators Kevin Wilson and Ryan Day were able to manipulate the Wisconsin defense with a multitude of formations, similar to what they showed Michigan State during their visit to Columbus earlier this month. When the defense did bring an occasional blitzer, though, Barrett had options to attack the space left open, such as a bubble screen relief that led to a long touchdown catch-and-run for Parris Campbell.



That bubble screen was added to the tight zone run that was the bedrock of Ohio State's offense this evening in Indianapolis, with running back J.K. Dobbins using his low center of gravity to find holes and run through arm tackles on his way to 174 rushing yards.

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Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...points-on-the-field-in-the-big-ten-title-game
 
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Is it strange to think that Weber has a better top end speed than Dobbins does? I had never been impressed with the latter's top end speed, but his acceleration and quickness is elite. Very similar to Braxton Miller.
 
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