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Game Thread 2015 Sugar Bowl: (1) Alabama vs. (4) Ohio State, Jan 1st @ 8:30p ET, ESPN (civilized thread)

Went back to look at the drive charts...

We had 3 more possessions (thus 3 more opportunities to score) against Wisconsin than we did against MSU, AND the defense scored a TD.

Against Michigan State we scored a TD on every single possession other than the missed FG and a solid drive that was negated by a 15 yard penalty. (I'm not including the "run the clock out" drive at the end)

We actually had 4 punts and 4 negative yardage drives against Wisky.

BTW, this is splitting hairs...just a response to Coqui's questioning of MSU being our best offensive performance. Both performances were fantastic...and rest assured, I'll take either on Jan 1. :biggrin:
 
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The original history lessons from Altie were moved out of public view and for good reason. This post was being made on my phone while this was happening. I chose to post it here not to renew that awkward conversation but to clarify how BP works.
That's a sufficiently smug response and I'm sure it made you feel proud of yourself and your immense football wisdom, that you learned on ESPN and Yahoo, for a moment.

Now, allow me to be just as smug and arrogant in my reply, although I do seem to understand things a bit more than you do.
if you'd like to be asked to leave, by all means...
Erase 1941. That was a horrible decision and I often wonder why that year is included. As for all the others, valid is really the only way to describe them.

Just because Ohio State was horrible team in the '20's and for most of the 30's, it's no reason to believe that other teams weren't highly successful during this time period.
Keep trolling and misunderstanding your place on this board.

We welcome thoughtful visitors who can talk football and back up their arguments. That includes reasons that the opposition is better or will win, assuming substance backs it up.

This is not a college football board or subscription site. It is a buckeye centric, homer board. As such, there will be times where our fellow buckeyes get snippy (and we will moderate that as well). That does not justify any incendiary posts that hit the entire board with their childish explosions. It's not fair, but then that's common sense. I can't hop on a random Bama board and start hurling jabs just because some random poster treated me poorly. It's their board.

Along those same lines, we don't want to labor through thousands of words about the dream seasons and wonderful feelings involved just because you felt compelled to defend the honor of disputed championships. Choose your arguments and words wisely and succinctly.

Most of all, stop pretending this is a mindless free board to educate with your blessings of wisdom. Both programs have an extremely long history of winning and a wide spectrum of alumni. Unless you are 90 years old and oddly spending your last days squabbling on a message board, than chances are you are speaking from the same amount of perspective (or less) than many buckeye members here.

...edit: ok this part gets off the rails a bit but I'm leaving it in anyway.

P.s. I find it hilariously dense to think that we parrot what we hear on ESPN (I'm guessing you copied this from some truthbombs.doc file you keep with your cape ). We have a very visible and long standing hatred of that entertainment network and it's tmz drivel. Even if we were foolish enough to parrot what we hear on espn, in what bizarro world would such an act result in rhetoric that casts Alabama in a poor light ?

Edit: The fact that you copied and pasted this from countless other arguments is very sad. Rather than hold a civilized conversation, you bombarded us with a truth tsunami and did so with the humanity of a tech support line operator.
 
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Went back to look at the drive charts...

We had 3 more possessions (thus 3 more opportunities to score) against Wisconsin than we did against MSU, AND the defense scored a TD.

Against Michigan State we scored a TD on every single possession other than the missed FG and a solid drive that was negated by a 15 yard penalty. (I'm not including the "run the clock out" drive at the end)

We actually had 4 punts and 4 negative yardage drives against Wisky.

BTW, this is splitting hairs...just a response to Coqui's questioning of MSU being our best offensive performance. Both performances were fantastic...and rest assured, I'll take either on Jan 1. :biggrin:

Did a WR drop a single pass in the MSU game? :lol:
 
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Agreed. From the Bama schedule this year my .02;

  • OSU is most similar to Auburn offensively. I'd say a notch below, especially with our 3rd QB, but that's the closest comparison from the Bama schedule.
  • OSU is most similar to LSU defensively, maybe just a notch below the 2 Mississippi schools
  • Bama is the best team OSU has faced in either phase of the game. MSU offensively and PSU defensively would be be the closest comps but Bama is better than either one.
  • Cooper is far and away the best individual player we have faced all year and biggest mismatch
  • Their freshman punter is probably only behind Cooper and MGIII as far as individual talents we have faced. Kid is phenomenal.
So long story short, I think you have each team facing it's best overall opponent of the year in this game.

Should be fun

I think I can agree with your last statement. However, I think OSU is most similar to Florida defensively. I base this on overall scoring defense. Bama is comparable to PSU in scoring defense. OSU give up 4 to 5 ppg more than bama.

I think turnover margin could be a key stat. Bama's is not good.
 
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What are you talking about? Bosa used to be a lot faster until he left Florida.
I think I can agree with your last statement. However, I think OSU is most similar to Florida defensively. I base this on overall scoring defense. Bama is comparable to PSU in scoring defense. OSU give up 4 to 5 ppg more than bama.

I think turnover margin could be a key stat. Bama's is not good.
Exactly turnovers will probably be a big deciding factor. It can take a otherwise competitive 20-13 game and make it go downhill fast if the turnover leads to 27-13.
 
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Makes one wonder how much you can hate Barn when you're happy if they win.

only way I'm happy with an Auburn win is when I need their opponent to lose.

other than that, Fuck 'em. hope they beaux o-fer every fucking year (unless I need them to beat somebody for some reason).

same goes for Bama, Ole Piss, Florida, etc.
 
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only way I'm happy with an Auburn win is when I need their opponent to lose.

other than that, Fuck 'em. hope they beaux o-fer every fucking year (unless I need them to beat somebody for some reason).

same goes for Bama, Ole Piss, Florida, etc.

So you want other teams to lose unless you want them to win.

Fuck, that's some undeniable proof right there. SEC bias is a sham. :dance2:
 
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I think I can agree with your last statement. However, I think OSU is most similar to Florida defensively. I base this on overall scoring defense. Bama is comparable to PSU in scoring defense. OSU give up 4 to 5 ppg more than bama.

I think turnover margin could be a key stat. Bama's is not good.

I was going off of football outsiders FEI ratings. They are adjusted for opponents. According to that, and tifwiw, the OSU defense is almost exactly on par with the LSU defense.

Now style, personnel and such I don't know. I haven't seen that much LSU football this year.

The most important takeaway should be that OSU has NFL talent on the DL and this isn't the best OL Bama has fielded in recent history so hopefully,from our perspective, it gives OSU more of a chance.
 
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I think I can agree with your last statement. However, I think OSU is most similar to Florida defensively. I base this on overall scoring defense. Bama is comparable to PSU in scoring defense. OSU give up 4 to 5 ppg more than bama.

I think turnover margin could be a key stat. Bama's is not good.
turnovers are an interesting factor for osu. It kept Minnesota from being a solid 3 TD beating and held back other games. Obviously it cost a woeful young qb and OL against va tech. Turnovers also covered a lot of flaws on the Osu defense.
 
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