OHSportsFan
Fan of Ohio Sports in Indy
Ha!
No, just more bad football. Heck, Miami may be lucky to be at Boise State level football anymore. "The U" is dead.
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No, just more bad football. Heck, Miami may be lucky to be at Boise State level football anymore. "The U" is dead.
It is baffling to me that Miami is stuck in such an extended period of mediocrity. Given their recruiting base, the history they can sell (since the 80's anyway, history of putting kids in the NFL, and an affiliation with a major conference, there's no reason they should have been this bad for this long. Not complaining, but you'd think they'd have to try to eff up as bad as they have. I mean, they were supposedly "QB U". Ken Dorsey is the last good QB they had, and that was a dozen years ago.
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Plus they had all the cocaine and hookers, and still haven't had a competitive team.
FSU was pretty mediocre during the same stretch. I think it's only really been the last year or two at most that they have been pretty good again. If I have to guess at the reason, I'd say that the SEC has been encroaching on their recruiting bases, since the early 00s, and now the pendulum is swinging back to FSU at least.
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Bucky32
Legend
There's a sense in which Miami really caught lighting in a bottle there - being one of the first schools to recruit the inner city and the whole "inventing swag" thing - those were special, special teams and a very special era of college football. At this point it's just another decent program in the south having to keep up with what is now four formidable in-state teams (UF, FSU, UCF, USF) as well as basically the entire SEC as far as recruiting is concerned. I have no problem imagining them remaining mediocre for a very long time.
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Well, FSU has always been more "SEC" than any other "non-SEC" team. They fell off because Bobbah didn't know when to hang 'em up, and Fisher had to dig them out of the smoking crater he created. Miami had the same smoking crater due to Croker's largely mediocre recruiting, but hasn't been able to dig themselves out of it for nearly a decade now. Plus, FSU had the forsight to hire a pretty good coach, while Miami has gone with schlubs like Randy Shannon and Al Golden.
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Saw31
High Seas Rogue
It's coaching in my imo. Not necessarily Xs and Os coaching, but the ability to run an entire program. There just aren't a lot of guys who can do it all well. And if they can't do it all, they can sit smack dab in the middle of the best recruits in the country, but still can't sign them consistently...
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Agree. What Miami needs to do is hire a coach that can get them back. Al Golden and Randy Shannon won't cut it in those sharky waters down there.
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My favorite way to recap the week that was...It's meltdown time!:
http://www.rollbamaroll.com/2014/9/2/6095595/nsfw-its-meltdown-time-week-one
http://www.rollbamaroll.com/2014/9/2/6095595/nsfw-its-meltdown-time-week-one
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DoctorWho
Geronimo
Miami is a school that will always go the cheapest route. They went with Coker in 2001 because the players wanted him. After Coker got canned, they went cheap and got Shannon. After Shannon got canned, they went with Golden. All cheap hires. With the last two hires, you get what you pay for.
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Not that surprising to me. It's a sunshine program. Same with UF and FSU... it's rare all 3 are good, it's uncommon enough that 2 of them are good. But one of them is usually elite. It's cyclical.
Same kind of thing in Cali. Lately Stanford has been elite, UCLA is resurgent, and USC and Cal have been mediocre. In a few years everyone will forget about "Stanford Football", maybe it will be Mora's turn... maybe USC will pull their head out, maybe Cal finally figures it out. One of them will be elite though.
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