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MaxBuck;1667631; said:
Workout warriors frequently seduce GMs, only to disappoint once they join the team.

Vern Gholston, anyone?

Gholston was a workout warrior, but he was hardly just a workout warrior.

He had the stats to back it up. He wasn't a can't miss prospect, but he had the junior season to show, even if he was inconsistent.
 
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jwinslow;1667457; said:
Tim Tebow, Florida ?His 3-cone number (6.66) is well above the average of even last year?s cornerback class

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NOW WE MUST RECONSIDER EVERYTHING!
 
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jwinslow;1667468; said:
In case you were wondering, these numbers prove that Warren was a Carr/English guy who didn't buy into Barwis. At least that's the consensus on the UM boards.


Taylor Mays fails to impress in DB drills at NFL combine - NFL - SI.com

Donovan Warren/CB/Michigan: Warren started by struggling to get under 4.7 in the 40. He was ineffective in drills, exhibiting a poor backpedal, no burst out of his plant and an inability to change direction without losing a lot of momentum.

Go thing Michigan got him off their team, then...
 
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Taylor Mays fails to impress in DB drills at NFL combine - NFL - SI.com

Taylor Mays' workout at the combine will be one talked about for a long time, and with good reason. After weighing in at 230 pounds, Mays completed 24 reps on the bench press, then ran a 40 that most scouts clocked at 4.32 seconds. Normally those numbers would elevate a prospect towards the top of the draft, but we contend that won't be the case with Mays.

During drills, Mays was in poor form. As fast as he was moving forwards, Mays was terribly slow moving in reverse. It was similar to his performance at the Senior Bowl in January. Mays looked uncomfortable backpedaling during drills and one scout called his defensive back fundamentals "just bad." When asked to change direction, Mays would come to a complete stop then start up again. The contrast between Mays and players such as Earl Thomas and T.J. Ward, who lost little momentum changing direction, was striking.

Poor performances in Mobile and Indianapolis do not mean Mays won't be productive in the NFL. It does mean he will be limited to certain systems that don't require him to play man coverage or make plays sideline-to-sideline. In other words Mays is likely to go later in the draft than someone with his measurables usually would.
 
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MaxBuck;1667631; said:
Workout warriors frequently seduce GMs, only to disappoint once they join the team.

Vern Gholston, anyone?

He was a first rounder before the combine though.

And he still might be a legit first round selection as a DE in a 4-3. Probably not worthy of the 6th overall pick, but possibly good nonetheless.

I also read earlier somewhere (can't remember where, PFT maybe?) that Pete Carroll clocked Mays at a 4.19. :lol: Come the fuck on Pete. The difference between a 4.19 and a 4.43.. pretty big.
 
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3074326;1667464; said:
He's the next Roy Williams. A guy with a ton of hype who completely sucks against the pass, who is good against the run. I don't even know if he's great against the run, honestly. Didn't watch him enough. I'm assuming he is, since he's going to be drafted in the first round. You'd think he'd be good at something.

Not to nitpick, but if you haven't seen him enough then how do you know that he completely sucks against the pass?
 
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KingLeon;1667820; said:
Not to nitpick, but if you haven't seen him enough then how do you know that he completely sucks against the pass?

I've heard it from enough people that makes me believe there's a little fire under all that smoke.

And from what I have seen, he hasn't looked that great against the pass. I don't recall him looking good or bad against the run. Just don't remember how he looked against it.
 
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jwinslow;1667468; said:
In case you were wondering, these numbers prove that Warren was a Carr/English guy who didn't buy into Barwis. At least that's the consensus on the UM boards.

Don't blame him at all. I wouldn't buy into that BS either. He's probably in the majority not the minority.
 
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http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/article/2010-03-02/nfl-combine-winners-and-losers-defense
Thaddeus Gibson, OLB, Ohio State. Personnel men and coaches wanted to see if the explosiveness and athleticism he showed playing defensive end in college could translate to playing outside linebacker in the NFL. He answered those questions at the Combine, looking explosive, quick, agile and athletic in all drills. More than a few scouts said he looked like he had been playing linebacker his whole life. He will go in the first round to a team using a 3-4 scheme.

Scout.com: Scouting Combine Day 6: Rising and Falling
Joe Haden, CB, Florida
There will be many that over analyze the fact that Haden had a less than stellar workout at the Scouting Combine. Haden’s time in the 40 (4.57) was alarming and will force NFL evaluators to reevaluate the 6-foot, 193-pound playmaker on film even more. But to think that he will lose his No. 1 ranking over one bad day is ridiculous. Haden will still be a top 10 pick in the draft, and there’s no question that he will rebound from this performance and have a standout showing at his Pro Day. He has Darrelle Revis type ability.
Chad Jones, FS, LSU
Jones decided to forego his senior season after a solid junior campaign where he had 74 tackles and three interceptions. At 6-foot-2, 231 pounds, Jones is considered to be one of the top safeties in this year’s class, but he failed to impress scouts on Tuesday. Jones ran an average 4.57 in the 40, but it was his bench press that raised eyebrows. At his size, Jones should have completed more than seven reps. Jones’ lack of strength will likely hurt him, but he should still receive late second, early third round consideration.
Donovan Warren, CB, Michigan
Just like Jones, Warren decided to skip his senior season and enter the draft after his junior year. At 5-foot-11, 193 pounds, Warren has great size for a corner, but lacked the straight-line speed that scouts wanted to see and managed just a 4.59 in the 40. There are scouts that believe Warren is best suited to play safety at the next level. And after the speed he amassed on Tuesday, it’s safe to say that Warren’s decision to enter the draft may come back to haunt him.
Myron Rolle, SS, Florida State
It’s easy to say that Rolle is the brightest NFL prospect in the history of the draft, since he was just one of 32 American students to be named a Rhodes Scholar. But as far as his future in the NFL, Rolle impressed teams during the interview process in Indianapolis, but on Tuesday, he failed to standout during his workout. There were a lot of questions about Rolle’s overall speed during his time at Florida State, and the 4.68 he ran in the 40 only magnifies his weakness. During drills, Rolle was stiff in the hips and struggled in transition. He has a good burst and demonstrated strength in the bench press with 21 reps, but in a deep safety class, Rolle will fall into the sixth or seventh round.
 
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Nice article on Kyle and the same 40 time as Donovan Warren (ouch)

South Bend Tribune: Notre Dame football: McCarthy lives up to billing at NFL combine
But the 6-foot-1, 205-pounder from Youngstown, Ohio, was near the top of the leaderboard among safeties in bench press (tie for second, with 24 reps at 225), the three-cone drill (second at 6.74 seconds) and in the 20-yard shuttle (second at 4.13 seconds).

McCarthy’s official 40-yard dash time wasn’t released, but scouts unofficially averaged him at 4.65 seconds.
 
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:slappy: guess ill put this here

Blount blows off Pro Day | ProFootballTalk.com

We tend to not get too worked up about Pro Day workouts, the touring, off-Broadway version of the Underwear Olympics.

But while it's difficult for a guy to do anything to dramatically improve his stock via a Pro Day workout, a guy can screw himself up by, for example, not showing up.

Oregon running back LeGarrette Blount, whose career was derailed by a 10-game suspension imposed after he punched a guy following the first game of the 2009 season, blew off his Pro Day workout, according to Gil Brandt of NFL.com.

As Brandt points out, Blount's decision not to work out "likely will prompt more questions."

Blount doesnt seem to be a very good decision maker
 
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