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2009 USC Trojans Additional Information

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2009 USC Trojans Additional Information

Coaching Staff
Head Coach:
Official School Bio - Pete Carroll

Assistant Coaches:
Official School Bios - Assistant Coaches

Jeremy Bates, Assistant Head Coach of the Offense/Quarterbacks
Brennan Carroll, Tight Ends/Recruiting Coordinator
Jethro Franklin, Defensive Line
Todd McNair, Running Backs
Justin Mesa, Wide Receivers Graduate Assistant
John Morton, Offensive Coordinator/Wide Receivers
Ken Norton Jr., Assistant Head Coach of the Defense/Linebackers
Kris Richard, Cornerbacks Graduate Assistant
Pat Ruel, Offensive Line
Brian Schneider, Special Teams Coordinator
Rocky Seto, Defensive Coordinator/Secondary
Chris Carlisle, Strength and Conditioning
Mark Jackson, Senior Asociate Athletic Director
Matt Capurro, Director of Football Operations

Recruiting
Starters Returning: 12 (Offense 9, Defense 2, Special Teams 0)
Notable Returners:
RB Stafon Johnson, RB Joe McKnight, RB C.J. Gable, FB Stanley Havili, WR Damian Williams, WR Ronald Johnson (now injured), TE Anthony McCoy, LT Charles Brown, LG Butch Lewis, LG/C Jeff Byers, C Kris O'Dowd, RG Alex Parsons, RT Tyron Smith

Starters Lost: 12 (Offense 2, Defense 9, Special Teams 2)
Notable Losses:
QB Mark Sanchez, WR Patrick Turner, DE Clay Matthews, DT Fili Moala, DE Kyle Moore, LB Brian Cushing, LB Rey Maualuga, LB Kaluka Maiava, CB Cary Harris, S Kevin Ellison, K David Buehler, P Greg Woidneck

Incoming Recruits:

Scout.com - #12 class - 3-5*, 8-4*, 2-3*, 1-2* - 3.93* average
Rivals.com - #06 class - 2-5*, 7-4*, 4-3*, 1-NR - 3.85* average

(Name - Pos - Height, Weight - Hometown - Scout/Rivals Rating)
Dion Bailey - S - 6-1, 195 - Lakewood, CA - 4*/4*
Dillon Baxter - WR - 6-0, 205 - San Diego, CA - 4*/4*
Trajuan Briggs - FB - 5-11, 192 - Van Nuys, CA - 3*/3*
Anthony Brown - CB - 5-11, 180 - Fontana, CA - 3*/3*
Matt Darr - P - 6-2, 210 - Bakersfield, CA - 4*/3*
Giovanni Di Poalo - OC - 6-4, 254 - Ventura, CA - 4*/4*
Xavier Grimble - TE - 6-5, 245 - Las Vegas, NV - 5*/4*
D.J. Morgan - RB - 5-11, 170 - Woodland Hills, CA - 4*/4*
Kyle Prater - WR - 6-2, 185 - Hilside, IL - 5*/5*
Brice Schwab - OT - 6-8, 320 - San Marcos, CA - 4*/NR
Jesse Scroggins - WB - 6-2, 191 - Lakewood, CA - 4*/4*
Dakota Smith - OG - 6-8, 365 - Los Angeles, CA - 2*/3*
Randall Telfer - TE - 6-4, 223 - Rancho Cucamonga, CA - 4*/4*
Robert Woods - WR - 6-2, 185 - Gardena, CA - 5*/5*

2009 Class

Scout.com - #9 class - 4-5*, 09-4*, 5-3*, 0-2* - 3.94* average
Rivals.com - #4 class - 4-5*, 11-4*, 1-3*, 2-2* - 3.94* average


Matt Barkley - QB - 6-3, 227 - Santa Ana, CA - 5*/5*
James Boyd - DE - 6-4.5, 216 - Los Angeles, CA - 4*/4*
Hebron Fangupo - DT - 6-2, 320 - Walnut, CA - 5*/4*
De'Von Fluornoy - WR - 6-2, 180 - Van Nuys, CA - 4*/4*
Kevin Graf - OT - 6-6, 307 - Agoura, CA - 4*/4*
Kevin Greene - DE - 6-4, 235 - San Francisco, CA - 3*/3*
Patrick Hall - S - 6-1, 185 - Centura, CA - 4*/5*
Jacob Harfman - K -5-10, 200 - Walnut, CA - 3*/2*
Torin Harris - CB - 6-0, 175 - Las Vegas, NV - 3*/4*
Jarvis Jones - SLB - 6-3.5, 220 - Columbus, GA - 4*/4*
Devon Kennard - DE - 6-3, 225 - Phoenix, AZ - 5*/5*
John Martinez - OC - 6-3, 270 - Salt Lake CIty, UT - 4*/4*
T.J. McDonald - S - 6-2, 192 - Fresno, CA - 5*/5*
Byron Moore - S - 6-1, 187 - Harbor City, CA - 4*/4*
Marquis Simmons - WLB - 6-2, 205 - Compton, CA - 4*/4*
Jawanza Starling - S - 6-2, 190 - Tallahassee, FL - 4*/4*
Frankie Telfort - WLB - 5-11, 205 - Miami, FL - 3*/4* - Heart condition ends football career
Simione Vehikite - MLB - 6-1, 243 - Kapolei, HI - 3*/2*

2008 Class

Scout.com - #9 class - 4-5*, 10-4*, 4-3*, 1-2* - 3.89* average
Rivals.com - #8 class - 2-5*, 13-4*, 4-3*, 0-2* - 3.89* average

Armond Armstead - DT - 6-4, 287 - Elk Grove, CA - 4*/4*
Blake Ayles - TE - 6-4, 245 - Orange, CA - 5*/4*
Brian Baucham - RB - 5-11, 170 - Torrance, CA - 2*/3*
T.J. Bryant - DB - 6-1, 175 - Tallahassee, FL - 4*/4*
Brice Butler - WR - 6-2, 178 - Norcross, GA - 4*/4*
Daniel Campbell - OL - 6-5, 320 - Aldine, TX - 4*/4* - DNQ
Jurrell Casey - DT - 6-1, 280 - Long Beach, CA - 3*/4*
Khaled Holmes - OL - 6-4, 301 - Santa Ana, CA - 4*/4*
Wes Horton - DE - 6-6, 240 - Sherman Oaks, CA - 3*/4*
Malik Jackson - DE - 6-5, 212 - Lake Balboa, CA - 3*/4*
Matt Kalil - OL - 6-7, 281 - Anaheim, CA - 5*/5*
Uona Kavienga - LB - 6-0, 226 - Los Angeles, CA - 4*/4*
Drew McAllister - DB - 6-2, 195 - Danville, CA - 3*/3*
Curtis McNeal - RB - 5-6, 180 - Los Angeles, CA - 4*/3*
Matt Meyer - OL - 6-7, 290 - Stockton, CA - 4*/4* - Unknown
Nick Perry - DE - 6-4, 235 - Detroit, MI - 4*/4*
D.J. Shoemate - ATH - 6-0, 219 - Anaheim, CA - 5*/4*
Maurice Simmons - LB - 6-2, 203 - Compton, CA - 4*/3*
Tyron Smith - OL - 6-5, 260 - Moreno Valley, CA - 5*/5*

2007 Class

Scout.com - #2 class - 10-5*, 5-4*, 3-3* - 4.39* averare
Rivals.com - #2 class - 6-5*, 10-4*, 2-3* - 4.22* average

Jordan Campbell - LB - 5-11, 226 - Corona, CA - 4*/4*
Brandon Carswell - WR - 6-1, 172 - Milpitas, CA - 4*/4*
Martin Coleman - OL - 6-5, 290 - Huntington Beach, CA - 5*/4*
Aaron Corp - QB - 6-4, 195 - Villa Park, CA - 5*/4*
Rhett Ellison - TE - 6-5, 230 - Mountain View, CA - 3*/3*
Chris Galippo - LB - 6-3, 235 - Anaheim, CA - 5*/5*
Broderick Green - RB - 6-1, 230 - Little Rock, AR - 4*/4* Transfer to Arkansas
Everson Griffen - DE - 6-4, 266 - Avondale, AZ - 5*/5*
Da'John Harris - DT - 6-4, 266 - Gardena, CA - 5*/4*
Trey Henderson - DE - 6-3, 264 - Vancouver, B.C. - 3*/3* - Career-ending knee issues
Ronald Johnson - WR - 6-0, 177 - Muskegon, MI - 5*/5*
Marshall Jones - DB - 6-0, 185 - Westlake Village, CA - 5*/4*
Joe McKnight - RB - 6-1, 193 - River Ridge, LA - 5*/5*
Kristofer O'Dowd - OL - 6-5, 315 - Tucson, AZ - 5*/5*
Michael Reardon - DE - 6-6, 260 - Villa Park, CA - 4*/4*
Malcolm Smith - ATH - 6-2, 200 - Woodland Hills, CA - 4*/4*
Christian Tupou - DE - 6-3, 260 - Sacramento, CA - 3*/4*
Marc Tyler - RB - 6-0, 215 - Westlake Village, CA - 5*/5*

2006 Class

Scout.com - #1 class - 8-5*, 13-4*, 5-3*, 0 N/A - 4.12* average
Rivals.com - #1 class - 5-5*, 14-4*, 6-3*, 1 N/A - 3.96* average

Kenny Ashley - RB - 5-8, 210 - Venice, CA - 3*/4* - DNQ
Walker Ashley - DT - 6-4, 295 - Eden Prairie, MN - 4*/3* - Transfer to Minnesota
David Ausberry - WR - 6-4, 213 - Lemoore, CA - 5*/4*
Allen Bradford - LB - 5-11, 219 - Colton, CA - 5*/5*
David Buehler - DB - 6-2, 217 - Santa Ana, CA - 3*/N/R - Completed Eligibility
C.J. Gable - ATH - 5-11, 180 - Sylmar, CA - 5*/5*
Garrett Green - QB - 6-2, 190 - Sherman Oaks, CA - 3*/3*
Stanley Havili - RB - 6-0, 208 - Salt Lake, UT - 4*/4*
Vidal Hazelton - WR - 6-3, 193 - Chatham, VA - 5*/5* - Transfer to Cincinnati
Zack Heberer - OL - 6-4, 269 - San Pedro, CA - 4*/4*
Jamere Holland - ATH - 6-1, 175 - Woodland Hills, CA - 4*/4* - Transfer to Oregon
Stafon Johnson - RB - 5-11, 200 - Los Angeles, CA - 5*/5*
Vincent Joseph - DB - 5-8, 165 - Long Beach, CA - 3*/3* - Academic casualty
Butch Lewis - DT - 6-6, 280 - Aurora, CO - 4*/4*
Taylor Mays - ATH - 6-3, 218 - Seattle, WA - 5*/5*
Anthony McCoy - TE - 6-4, 240 - Fresno, CA - 4*/4*
Emmanuel Moody - RB - 6-1, 195 - Coppell, TX - 4*/4* - Transfer to Florida
Michael Morgan - LB - 6-2, 200 - Dallas, TX - 4*/4*
Alex Parsons - DT - 6-4, 260 - Irvine, CA - 4*/4*
Travon Patterson - WR - 5-8, 160 - Long Beach, CA - 4*/3*
Antwine Perez - DB - 6-1, 199 - Camden, NJ - 5*/4* - Transfer to Maryland
Alfred Rowe - DB - 6-0, 187 - Long Beach, CA - 3*/3* - Unknown
Derek Simmons - DE - 6-4, 268 - Fairfield, CA - 4*/4*
Joshua Tatum - LB - 6-0, 219 - Oakland, CA - 5*/4* - JUCO - Now Missouri Tiger
Gerald Washington - TE - 6-6, 253 - Rancho Cucamonga, CA - 4*/3* - Completed Eligibility
Shareece Wright - DB - 5-11, 180 - Colton, CA - 4*/4* (Academically ineligible in 2009)

2005 Class

Scout.com - #6 class - 6-5*, 8-4*, 3-3*, 1-1* - 4.0* average
Rivals.com - #1 class - 3-5*, 9-4*, 5-3*, 1-N/A - 3.88* average

Note - 8 of the 18 members of the 2005 class were selected in the 2009 NFL draft.

Charles Brown - OL - 6-6, 249 - Pomona, CA - 4*/3*
Luthur Brown - LB - 6-3, 227 - Lakewood, CA - 5*/4*
Michael Coleman - ATH - 6-2, 225 - San Bernardino, CA - 4*/3* - Unknown
Brian Cushing - LB - 6-4, 216 - Oradell, NJ - 5*/4* - Drafted 15th overall in 2009 NFL draft by Houston
Kevin Ellison - LB - 6-0, 214 - Inglewood, CA - 3*/3* - Drafted 189th overall in 2009 NFL draft by San Diego
Cary Harris - DB - 6-1, 180 - Sherman Oaks, CA - 4*/4* - Drafted 183 overall in 2009 NFL draft by Buffalo
Will Harris - DB - 6-3, 195 - Covina, CA - 4*/4*
Thomas Herring - OL - 6-6, 320 - Los Angeles, CA - 4*/4*
Nick Howell - OL - 6-5, 253 - Fresno, CA - 3*/3*
Kaluka Maiava - LB - 5-11, 212 - Wailuku, HI - 4*/4* - Drafted 104th overall in the 2009 NFL draft by Clevland
Rey Maualuga - LB - 6-2, 253 - Eureka, CA - 5*/5* - Drafted 38th overall in the 2009 NFL draft by Cincinnati
Mozique McCurtis - DB - 6-1, 220 - San Diego, CA - 1*/N/A - Ended football career to focus on academics (law school)
Kyle Moore - DE - 6-6, 247 - Warner Robins, GA - 4*/4* - Drafted 117th overall in the 2009 NFL draft by Tampa Bay
Mark Sanchez - QB - 6-4, 211 - Mission Viejo, CA - 5*/5* - Drafted 5th overall in the 2009 NFL draft by NY Jets
Averell Spicer - DE - 6-2, 260 - Rancho Cucamonga, CA - 5*/4*
Kevin Thomas - DB - 6-0, 166 - Oxnard, CA - 4*/4*
Patrick Turner - WR - 6-5, 210 - Nashville, TN - 5*/5* - Drafted 87th overall in the 2009 NFL draft by Miami
Troy Van Blarcom - K - 6-3, 200 - Orange, CA - 3*/3* - Transfer to Kansas Wesleyan
Behind the Numbers
Anyone who received their education in statistics from The Ohio State University knows that the two most important things about statistics are sample size and sampling method. Either would be a good reason to throw out numbers from last Saturday's games.
Southern California's blow-out of SJSU was as different as a game could be from the nail-biter in the Horseshoe. Both the strength of the opponent and the type of match-up it presented to the superior Trojans render the game a completely unfit instrument for the purposes of numerical comparison. And not only is it just one game, but the first game of the season is well known to be the most given to statistical abberations.

The obvious solution is to forego a comparison of the teams and focus on a comparison of the programs, specifically the programs under the two coaches. If we give each coach a mulligan for their first year on the job, we are left with an equitable comparison of the last seven seasons. This method gives Tressel a pass for the 7-5 2001 campaign. Similarly, Pete Carroll's 6-6 record for that year is discarded.

Seven Seasons of DSA

Differential Statistical AnalysisTM (DSA) does more than traditional stats. Instead of just counting yards or points, it compares a team's output to the average output against their opponent. For example: Differential Scoring Offense (DSO) compares how much a team scored compared to how much everybody else scored against their opponents. If they score twice as many points as their opponents usually give up, their DSO is 2. Differential Total Offense (DTO), Differential Rushing Offense (DRO) and Differential Passing Offense (DPO) all work the same way. Differential Defense works the same way too, but a lower number is better. If a team's Differential Scoring Defense (DSD) is 2, they are giving up twice as many points as your opponents usually score.

Composite Statistics provide DSA with a means of measuring a whole team instead of just the offense or defense. Differential Scoring Composite is DSO divided by DSD, Differential Rushing Composite is DRO divided by DRD and so on...

Comparing Saturday's combatants with DSA takes the most obvious difference between the teams and displays it in bold colors. But first, let's look at where the teams are similar. Let's look at the defenses.

DEFENSE

When you average the Differential Scoring Defense (DSD) and Differential Total Defense (DTD) for every D1A (FBS) team for the last 7 years, two teams rise to the top, and they're meeting in the Horseshoe Saturday night.

Average DSD over the last 7 years for each team:
  • Buckeyes: 0.527
    • First in the Nation
  • Trojans: 0.561
    • Second in the Nation
So Ohio State holds teams to less than 53% of the points they usually score, while USC is just behind them allowing a shade over 56% of their opponents usual scoring output. No other team in the country held teams to less than 60% of their average scoring over the past 7 years. The gap between #2 (USC) and #3 (Auburn) is the biggest gap on the spreadsheet until you get to the very bottom where FIU lags La. Monroe by a full tenth of a percent.

To sum up; OSU and USC have consistently had the best scoring defenses in college football in the Tressel/Carroll era, and it's not close. And they are not what you could fairly call bend-but-don't-break defenses either. Both are also very highly ranked in terms of DTD.

Average DTD over the last 7 years for each team:
  • Buckeyes: 0.742
    • First in the Nation
  • Trojans: 0.755
    • Third in the Nation
Similarly, OSU is #1 and USC is #3 in both Differential Rushing Defense (DRD) and Differential Yards per Pass Attempt (DYPA).

Since 2002, Ohio State is the only team in the country that has held opposing offenses to less than 75% of their usual output. Buckeyes are not a bend-but-don't-break kind of nut. For that matter, Trojans aren't too fond of giving ground either.

As you may have suspected however, the similarities end rather abruptly when the focus shifts to...

OFFENSE

Southern California is even more dominant on the offensive side of the ball. The Buckeyes - not so much. Differntial Scoring Offense (DSO) shows the difference in sharp relief:

Average DSO over the last 7 years for each team:
  • Trojans: 1.577
    • First in the Nation
  • Buckeyes: 1.222
    • Twentieth in the Nation
Top 20 may not sound that bad, and perhaps it's not. But Differential Total Offense (DTO) paints an even bleaker picture:






Average DTO over the last 7 years for each team:
  • Trojans: 1.286
    • Second in the Nation
  • Buckeyes: 1.011
    • Fifty-Fourth in the Nation
It is simply a fact that Ohio State moves the ball scarcely more than their opponents allow on average. While some would point to the won-lost record, especially against That School Up North, it is worth noting that Ohio State is alone among the Top 6 programs when it comes to average offense.

A comparison is made among the Top 6 programs because of how the Top programs are defined at Behind the Numbers (BtN). By far the most powerful DSA number is the Differential Scoring Composite (DSC). Ranking all college football teams by this metric shows that there is a very steep drop-off after number 6. A quick look at the table is all it takes to understand why - and is also enough to see that one of these things is not like the others.
Comparing the Top 6 in DSC: 2002-2008
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Compared to the other teams at the highest level of college football, the Buckeyes are not in the same league, offensively. It is left to the reader to debate the whys and wherefores on the message board. But these numbers show a very clear picture of cold, hard reality.

Speaking of cold, hard reality; we have arrived at the part of the analysis that is by far the harshest. This section would be incomplete without an analysis of Big Game Performance.

Eight Seasons of Big Games

The reasons for Ohio State's recent trouble with Big Games have been debated and dissected ad nauseum (literally); but few have gone back to examine the entire big-game record. Let's look Behind the Numbers to examine the Tressel/Carroll era with respect to big games.

The first thing we must do is to define what a big game is. This analysis uses the DSC-metric to determine if a game was "big". Three different definitions are used, relative to DSC: Games against teams that are Top-15 in DSC (end of year), Games against teams that are Top-7 in DSC (end of year), and games against teams that end the year ranked higher than you in DSC.

Top 15

It is no secret that USC has a better record in big games as recognized by the media; and DSC-defined big games are no different.

Record against Top 15 teams (in DSC) since 2001:
  • Trojans: 10-5
  • Buckeyes: 11-9
This is not nearly as bad as some claim the Buckeyes to be, but the record has a foundation of early success.





Ohio State's Top 15 record before and after the Debacle in the Desert (January 07):
  • Before: 10-4
  • After (inclusive): 1-5
The reasons for this decline become clearer when the definition of a big game is narrowed to the Top 7.

Top 7

Against teams that end the season in the Top 7 in DSC, the Trojans have a stellar record. The Buckeyes however have not fared as well

Record against Top 7 teams (in DSC) since 2001:
  • Trojans: 6-3
  • Buckeyes: 3-8
As you already know, all of those wins came before the Debacle in the Desert:
  • Before: 3-3
  • After (inclusive): 0-5
Comparing the two, it is clear that all of Ohio State's games against "ranked" teams happen to have been games against "elite" teams (at least they were elite the year the Buckeyes played them). That's not an excuse for 0-5, but it plays a small part in it. To clear away the remaining fog however, let's examine games against teams that ended the year ranked higher than the team under scrutiny.

"Better" Teams

Understandably, neither the Trojans nor the Buckeyes have played many games against teams that finished the year ranked higher in DSC. There just aren't that many teams that finish higher than either of these two. In fact, in 4 of the last 5 seasons, one of these teams has finished as the number 1 team in the country in DSC, meaning that no games for that year were against "better" teams.

Record against better (DSC) teams since 2001:
  • Trojans: 1-5
  • Buckeyes: 4-10
Interestingly, it is the Buckeyes that have a better record against teams that finish the year with a higher DSC. What is more interesting, is when the victories occurred.

As you may have already guessed, all of the Buckeye victories against "better" (DSC) teams happened early in the Tressel era. Here's a nugget for you though:

NO Jim Tressel coached Buckeye team has beaten a better (DSC) team with a quarterback NOT named Craig Krenzel.

Seriously.

In fact, Krenzel was 4-1 as a starter against teams that finished higher in DSC than the Buckeyes. And this little nugget provides the last piece to the puzzle.

CONCLUSION

It was already clear that something happened inside the Buckeyes in Glendale. Something broke. Confidence was strained to the breaking point, and a large number of the players who moved on after last year simply never recovered. The Buckeyes' talent didn't go backwards, so the mental part of the game is what we are left with to explain going from 10-4 (comparable to the Trojans Top 15 record) to 1-5 or from 3-3 to 0-5.

But when this fact is combined with Tresselball (refer to the offensive stats); winning with stout defense and a cautious, opportunistic offense; it is clear that a special kind of quarterback is needed to manage the game and understand what is needed when. Craig Krenzel was that kind of leader.

Did you ever wonder though, what it would be like to have a Craig-Krenzel-like leader who was also a gifted athlete? Did you notice from the table above that if Ohio State improved their offense by only a small amount that they would shoot to the top of the DSC chart? Now put those ideas together.

If Terrelle Pryor is as fully Tresselized as he seems, Saturday could be a day that Buckeye fans will never forget.
The Lighter Side
Oh boy, don't look now, but Michigan and Notre Dame might be fielding competent offenses this year. That's a bit of a shock, especially in the wake of Michigan's pre-game week having to answer allegations of cheating. Weirder still, your Labor Day classic snooze-fest - Miami (Fla) v. Florida State was actually interesting rather than a comedy of ineptitude. Things are surely looking different on the college football landscape, no? Well, maybe not. The AP poll sure seems familiar.
Going in to Week One the AP top 10 was as follows:

1. Florida - playing some team called Charleston Southern or State or something. Whatever the case, they were 73 point dogs.
2. Texas - lining up and banging skulls with Louisiana Monroe. Louisiana Monroe. Quick, give me the name of one player on La. Monroe's team. Didn't think so.
3. Oklahoma - to their credit, OU scheduled a game against a talented non-BCS foe. They also lost. Boomer! :chrip, chirp:
4. University of Southern California - A clash of the titans inspired by ancient Greece The mighty Trojans of Troy against the Spartans from Sparta! Well, close... Los Angeles against San Jose. "Close" is the wrong term really. 56-3
5. Alabama - Well, it looked legit, I mean Virginia Tech was ranked 7 (See below) I can't begrudge Bama that. Even though VT's offense has the boys in Blacksburg wishing they had someone as flashy as Tressel calling plays.
6. Ohio State - watch this space. As you know, OSU played Navy and won by the skin of their teeth... again... like always....
7. Virginia Tech - OK, so for whatever reason the pollsters feel compelled to rank an ACC team in the top 10. Never mind the ACC lost to 2 D-Iaa teams over the weekend.
8. Mississippi - The new darling from the SEC gets Memphis. After playing to a 14-0 halftime, the Runnin Rebels take it to the Tigers. The first of three teams named "Tigers" that the rebs will play this year.... and the least talented. For what it's worth, next week Ole Miss gets "the Lions" of Southeastern Louisiana. They did not schedule any bears.
9. Penn State - As the Big Ten's answer to Big XII scheduling, Penn State blasts Akron out of the universe ... umm... 31 to 7. Next up, Syracuse and then Temple... yikes! Scary stuff, there, JoePa....
9. (tie) - Oklahoma State - Also to their credit, the more media friendly OSU played and beat a Georgia team which was rated 13, despite losing its QB and best RB to the NFL.

To recap:
Winners: Florida, Texas, Alabama, Ohio State, Mississippi, Penn State, Oklahoma State.. and Charleston Southern - against the spread, anyway.
Losers: Oklahoma, Virginia Tech.

Well, looking at the week 2 AP poll, we see that the above losers list is one team light and the winners list one team too heavy:

1. Florida
2. Texas
3. USC
4. Alabama
5. Oklahoma State
6. Mississippi
7. Penn State
8. Ohio State
9. BYU
10. California

Look familiar? It should. It was just last year that your Buckeyes won their first game of the season and fell in the rankings because they didn't look pretty enough beating Youngstown State 43-0 before winning even uglier the next week against Ohio and falling in the polls yet again. So it is with this season, your Buckeyes beat a Navy team which will probably be bowl bound for the 7th straight year, and you'd think they escaped losing to a team which would be lucky to beat your local High School.

What this proves to me is that pollsters don't watch games, they watch box scores and ESPN's bottom line. If they had watched the Ohio State game, they would have seen a Buckeye team that was dominant for all but the final 6:30 of the contest. While they would have seen the Buckeyes give up two drives of 15 plays for touchdowns, one spanning 80 yards and the other 99, they would have seen drives of 8 yards, 7 yards, 15 yards, 12 yards, (-4) yards in between. They would have seen that the game was well in hand up until an ill advised decision to go for it on 4th down rather than kick a chip shot FG, resulting in a failed conversion and an 85 yard TD pass directly thereafter. I mean, come on... that's just not supposed to happen.. but it did, and the points count. I mean, we are talking about Navy here - for as outsized as they are, you can also count on them taking every opportunity they can get and never "giving up."

I don't know. Maybe Pollsters do watch the games and are just supporting terrorism by dinging the Buckeyes for only beating the United States Navy by 4. Surely the Buckeyes should have been 3 TDs better, right? Which they pretty much were. If you were watching. And besides, Navy was pretty much playing at home considering the warm welcome they received in the Shoe. Hmmm... maybe supporting terrorism is the more likely scenario for our pollsters. Hard to say.

But, no matter. The Buckeyes can make this season look a whole lot better by beating this week's opponent - the United States' best College ever* (USC, for short) Trojans. In doing so, they can make this season feel a lot more like 2002 than 2008. As you recall, in 2002 no one thought Ohio State had any chance against then "unbeatable" Miami, Fla. Even Buckeye fans were pretty unsure... Just like now. Can Tressel regain that magic that had him being called "the best big game coach in America!" by the time Texas rolled in to the Shoe in 2005?

Lets hope so. If nothing else, at least this week we're not debating whether or not a standing ovation is appropriate for our opponent. Anyway, may Tebow Bless you. Go Bucks, beat USC!

* - Excluding Notre Dame
Traditions & Opponent Perspective
Tommy Trojan - Situated in the center of campus, the bronze statue of Tommy Trojan sits. Made in 1930, the statue is among the most famous of all collegiate landmarks and is a symbol of the school's spirit. A frequent target of cross-town rival UCLA, Tommy is wrapped in tarps and duct tape during the week of the USC UCLA contest. Likewise, Tommy is monitored by a group calling themselves the "Trojan Knights" all night during game week in attempts to protect the statue.
Heritage Hall - Housing such items as replica Heisman's from Mike Garrett, O.J. Simpson, Charles White, Marcus Allen, Carson Palmer, Matt Leinart and Reggie Bush, you can take a long walk down "Memory lane" of all things Trojan football. There are photos galore as well as any number of USC's several trophies won over the years.

Conquest - Composed by Alfred Newman, "Conquest" is USC's regal processional march. A winner of 9 Academy Awards, Newman wrote the music as part a suite for a 1947 movie of the same name, Captain From Castile. He later bequeathed the song to USC in 1950.

Marching Band - Also known as "The Spirit of Troy" the band has a streak of having played at every USC football game, home or away, since 1987. It has not missed a trip to Southbend Indiana since 1971. Founded the same year as the University, 1880, the Marching Band has done more than simply provide inspiration for the Trojans at sporting events. Among many of campus appearances, some of the more well known include; performing "Tusk" with Fleetwood Mac on the 1979 Album "Tusk," Performing in several Hollywood movies, and even once as the Alabama Marching Band in the Movie "Forrest Gump," and the 1976 and 2000 Grammy Awards. Currently directed by Dr. Arthur C. Bartner (1970 - present) you will hear the band all game long. Among their materials:
Fight On! - Composed in 1922 by Milo Sweet as part of a Spirit contest, it is said the song was even used as Americans stormed an island in the pacific being held by the Japanese in WWII.

Fight On for ol' SC
Our men Fight On to victory
Our Alma Mater dear,
looks up to you
Fight On and win
For ol' SC
Fight On to victory
Fight On!

All Hail - USC's Alma Mater was composed by Al Wesson in the early 1920s. The school's sports information director from 1928-42, Wesson wrote the song when he was a member of the Band to serve as the finale of a 1923 campus show, "CONQUEST"
All hail to Alma Mater,
To thy glory we sing;
All hail to Southern California,
Loud let thy praises ring;
Where Western sky
meets Western seas
Our college stands in majesty
Sing our love to Alma Mater,
Hail, all hail to thee.
Traveler - The official mascot of the Trojans is the familiar white Andalusian horse. While it is not required that Traveler be of this breed, and previous iterations have been other breeds, Traveler is quickly recognized by his white coat and armor clad rider. Many people incorrectly assume the actual USC mascot is his rider, and also that his rider is Tommy Trojan. In fact, however, Traveler is the real mascot and his rider simply meant to symbolize the "ideal" Trojan warrior. Beginning in 1961, Traveler (now Traveler VII) has been ridden by Richard Saukko, Cass Dabbs, Rick Oas, Tom Nolan, Ardeshir Radpour, Brent Dahlgren, and current riders Chuck O'Donnell, and Hector Aguilar.

George Tirebiter - Prior to Traveler, the school's unofficial mascot was a stray dog was discovered by a group of USC students at a local ice cream parlor. "George" received the last name "Tirebiter" because he would bite at the tires of cars he chased down Trousdale Parkway, which bisects the campus. (Today Trousdale is only open to foot traffic.) The dangerous pastime lead to his death when George was run over in 1950. He was replaced by several other "Tirebiters" after then. George can smell a rival, as he once bit UCLA's mascot Joe Bruin on the nose to great fanfare. In 2006 the school unveiled a life-size statue of George with a small piece of chewed tire. Located at the south end of campus on Trousdale Parkway between the Mudd Hall of Philosophy and the Leventhal School of Accounting, there is a plaque which reads:
George Tirebiter was a shaggy mutt who - for a few glorious years in the '40s and '50s - became a beloved Trojan mascot. No one is quite sure when George wandered onto campus, but his feisty personality made him a student favorite as he chased cars and bit tires along University Avenue, not far from where you stand. He was taken to football games in a limousine where he led the Trojan marching band onto the field, often wearing sweaters and odd little hats. He once drew the cheers of thousands when he bit the mask of UCLA mascot, Joe Bruin, on the nose. Rumor has it there is a transcript on file showing George with a GPA of 3.2 in such courses as Chasing Cats 101 and Biting Tires 270. Of all the great USC mascots, none had the bite of George Tirebiter.
Song Girls - The first group of Song Girls appeared in 1967. Beginning as seven women, some forty years later, after numerous National Championships for both the Football Team and the Song Girl squad itself, they now number twelve. Known for their trademark white uniforms trimmed in Cardinal and Gold, the Song Girls perform over three dozen new dance routines each year, at all football games as well as basketball and volleyball games. The girls turn up at rallies, university and alumni functions, and even conducts its own Junior Song Girl camp. The group has traveled to Italy, Austria, France, Hungary, Czech Republic, Japan, China and Australia. The Song Girls, together with the Band, are among the most visible public faces of the University, functioning as the ambassadors of spirit and good will for the Trojan Family. Now wonder they're all smokin hot.
Historical Data

University of Southern California (Los Angeles, CA) Founded in 1880
Football 1st Season: 1888
Stadium: Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum
Constructed: 1923
Seating Capacity: 92,516
Playing Surface: Natural Grass
Conference: 1888-1915 Independent, 1916-1958 Pacific Coast Conference, 1959 to present Pacific-10 Conference
Colors: Cardinal & Gold
Mascot: Traveler VII (pure white horse of varied breeds over the years)
College Classification: NCAA Football Bowl Subdivision (formerly D-IA) since 1937
Conference Championships: 12 Pacific Coast Conference Titles (3 of those shared), 25 PAC-10 Titles (7 of those shared)
Consensus First-Team All-Americans: 75, by 66 different players
College Hall-of-Famers: 30 - Howard Jones, Morley Drury, Harry Smith, Erny Pinckert, Aaron Rosenberg, Dan McMillan, Mort Kaer, John Ferraro, Cotton Warburton, Frank Gifford, Ernie Smith, Tay Brown, John Baker, O.J. Simpson, Mike Garrett, Mike McKeever, Ron Yary, John McKay, Paul Cleary, Lynn Swann, Marvin Powell, Charles Raymond White, Brad Budde, Ronnie Lott, Marcus Allen, Jon Arnett, Ricky Bell, Charles "Tree" Young, Anthony "A.D." Davis, Richard Wood
Pro Hall-of-Famers: 11 - Marcus Allen, Morris (Red) Badgro, Frank Gifford, Ronnie Lott, Bruce Matthews, Ron Mix, Anthony Munoz, O.J. Simpson, Lynn Swann, Willie Wood, Ron Yary
Award Winners:
Archie Griffin Award: Matt Leinart (2)
Chic Harley Award: Mike Garrett, O.J. Simpson, Charles White, Marcus Allen, Reggie Bush (2)
Coach of the Year (AFCA): John McKay (2), Pete Carroll
Coach of the Year (Eddie Robinson-FWAA): John McKay (2)
Coach of the Year (George Munger Award): Pete Carroll
Coach of the Year (Home Depot): Pete Carroll
Coach of the Year (Paul 'Bear' Bryant): John McKay (2)
Dick Butkus Award: Chris Claiborne
Doak Walker Award: Reggie Bush
Doak Walker Legends Award: Marcus Allen
ESPY - Best Male College Athlete: Matt Leinart, Reggie Bush
Frank Broyles Award (Assistant Coach): Norm Chow
Heisman Memorial Trophy Award: Mike Garrett, O.J. Simpson, Charles White, Marcus Allen, Carson Palmer, Matt Leinart, Reggie Bush
Jim Thorpe Award: Mike Carrier
John Mackey Award: Fred Davis
Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award: Rodney Peete, Carson Palmer, Matt Leinart
Lombardi Award: Brad Budde
Manning Award: Matt Leinart
Maxwell Award: O.J. Simpson, Charles White, Marcus Allen
Outland Trophy: Ron Yary
Player of the Year (AP): Matt Leinart, Reggie Bush
Player of the Year (The Sporting News): O.J. Simpson, Charles White, Marcus Allen, Carson Palmer, Reggie Bush
Player of the Year (Walter Camp): O. J. Simpson (2), Charles White, Marcus Allen, Matt Leinart, Reggie Bush

National Championships: 10 Recognized (CFDW) 1928, 1931, 1932, 1962, 1967, 1972, 1974, 1978, 2003, 2004
Number of final rankings: 43 AP, 39 Coaches

Records
All Time: 766-303-54 (.706)
Bowl Games: 31-16-0 (.660) Most recently a 38-24 win over Penn State in the 2008-09 Rose Bowl
All Time vs the BigTen: 64-26-2 (.707) versus teams with conference membership at time of game.
All Time vs the Ohio State Buckeyes: 12-9-1 (.568) Most recently a 35 -3 win over Ohio State in Los Angeles, 2008.
Coach's Record: Pete Carroll, 2001-current, 88-15-0 (.854)

2008 Season: 12-1-0 (.923)
August 30 at Virginia W 52-7
September 13 No. 5 Ohio State W 35-3
September 25 at Oregon State L 27-21
October 4 No. 23 Oregon W 44-10
October 11 Arizona State W 28-0
October 18 at Washington State W 69-0
October 25 at Arizona W 17-10
November 1 Washington W 56-0
November 8 No. 21 California W 17-3
November 15 at Stanford W 45-23
November 29 Notre Dame W 38-3
December 6 at UCLA W 28-7
January 1 vs. No. 8 Penn State W 38-24

2009 Schedule
Sep 05 USC 56, San Jose State 3
Sep 12 at Ohio State 8:00 PM
Sep 19 at Washington 3:30 PM
Sep 26 Washington State TBA
Oct 03 at California 8:00 PM
Oct 17 at Notre Dame 3:30 PM
Oct 24 Oregon State 8:00 PM
Oct 31 at Oregon 8:00 PM
Nov 07 at Arizona State 8:00 PM
Nov 14 Stanford TBA
Nov 28 UCLA 10:00 PM
Dec 05 Arizona 3:30 PM

Links
Official Sites:

Official School Site - University of Southern California
Alumni Association Site - USC Alumni Association
Student Newspaper - Daily Trojan
Official Athletic Site - USC Trojans
Official Coach's Site - Pete Carroll.com
Official Conference Site - PAC-10

Message Boards & Team Pages:
Message Board - We Are SC (ESPN)
Message Board - SC Playbook (Scout)
Message Board - USC Football (Rivals)
Message Board - Tribute to Troy (Independent)
Message Board - USC Trojans (Go Teams Go)

Blog - Tribute to Troy
Blog - USC Herd
Blog - Conquest Chronicles
Blog - Trojan Wire
Blog - Trojan Football News
Blog - Boi From Troy
Blog - Brendan Loy
Blog - Student Body Right
Blog - A Choad's Guide to USC Football
Blog - Crazy Trojan Musings
Blog - According to USC Trojan
Blog - Talking Trojan (Orange County Register)
Blog - USC Blog (Orange County Register)
Blog - LA Daily News (Scott Wolf)
Blog - Lex Icon
Blog - Attack Cat
Blog - The Ultimate USC Football Tailgate
Blog - USC Trojan Football
Blog - Fight On Forever
Blog - It's a Definite Maybe
Blog - Brandon Hancock (former USC fullback)
Blog - Trojan Ducks Football Futbol
Blog - The Displaced Trojan
Blog - We Are SC!! USC Trojan Football
Blog - I Can't Complain
Blog - USC FanHouse (AOL)
Blog - USC Football Fan
Blog - Play Tusk!
Blog - Adam Rose (LAist)
Blog - USC Herd
Blog - USC Trojan Football Analysis
Blog - Trojan NYC
Blog - 3Peat Trojans (Sporting News)
Blog - USC Sports Talk
Blog - Medskool Has Opinions On Sports
Blog - Talking L.A. Sports
Blog - Trojan Tracker (Ben Malcolmsen, USCRipsIt.com/Pete Carroll.com)
Blog - Trojan Update
Blog - USC Blitz
Other - TrojansPedia
Other - Former Trojans
Other - Tommy Cam
Other - USC Fan Site
Other - Trojan FB (Videos, wallpapers, Images, etc.)
Other - Trojan Direct (News Wire Feed)

Team Page - NCAA
Team Page - ESPN
Team Page - USA Today
Team Page - Sporting News
Team Page - Fox Sports
Team Page - CBS Sportsline
Team Page - CNN/SI
Team Page - CFN
Team Page - Yahoo
Team Page - Bleacher Report
Team Page - WIKI
Team Page - Vegas Insider
Team Page - Covers

Local News Sources:
Daily Trojan - Local News
Los Angeles Times - Local News
Orange County Register - Local News
Riverside Press Enterprise - Local News
Los Angeles Daily News - Local News
Daily Breeze - Local News
Press-Telegram - Local News
Ventura County Star - Local News
San Bernardino Sun - Local News
Sacramento Bee - Local News
Pasadena Star News - Local News
Stockton Record - Local News

Team Previews and Breakdowns:
2009 USC Preview - CFN
2009 USC Preview - Offense - CFN
2009 USC Preview - Defense - CFN
2009 USC Preview - Depth Chart - CFN
2008 USC Preview - CFN
2007 USC Preview - CFN
2006 USC Preview - CFN
2009 USC Preview - Athlon
2009 USC Preview - Sports Network
2009 USC Preview - National Champs
2009 USC Preview - Football.com
2009 USC Preview - SoCal Sports Hub
2009 PAC-10 Preview - About.com
2009 USC Preview - OC Register
2009 USC Preview - KVAL/CBS
2009 USC Preview - ESPN Blue Ribbon ($)
2009 Game Preview - ESPN U
2009 Game Preview - SoCal Sports Hub
2009 Game Preview - Fox/Sports Xchange
2009 Game Preview - ESPN 360
2009 Game Preview - BigTen Network

Prospectus, Rosters & Other Info.:
2009 OSU vs USC Game Notes (PDF) - Ohio State Buckeyes
2009 USC Media Guide - USC Trojans
2009 USC Schedule - USC Trojans
2009 USC Roster - USC Trojans
2009 USC News Archive - USC Trojans
2009 PAC-10 Conference Media Guide - PAC-10
2009 PAC-10 Conference Stats - PAC-10

Travel:
Travel Information - USC Trojans


Preseason Rankings
#4 AP, #4 USA Today
Preseason Watch Lists
Biletnikoff - Damian Williams
Walter Camp POY - Taylor Mays
Lott - Taylor Mays
Mackey (TE) - Anthony McCoy
Maxwell POY - Damian Williams
Nagurski - Taylor Mays
Davey O'Brien - Aaron Corp
Outland (Lineman) - Jeff Byers & Kris O'Dowd
Rimington - Kris O'Dowd
Thorpe - Taylor Mays

 
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DBB, that's an impressive amount of work. And I don't want to ask you to do more, but if you have spreadsheets set up to spit these number out with a minimum of effort on your part, I'd be interested to know what OSU's and Florida's DSC's were for the 2006 regular season, excluding the championship game. If you'd have to do additional number-crunching to answer that, please don't bother.
 
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zincfinger;1535471; said:
DBB, that's an impressive amount of work. And I don't want to ask you to do more, but if you have spreadsheets set up to spit these number out with a minimum of effort on your part, I'd be interested to know what OSU's and Florida's DSC's were for the 2006 regular season, excluding the championship game. If you'd have to do additional number-crunching to answer that, please don't bother.

Fortunately, all I had to do was go back and look at BtN from the preview for that debacle.

BtN said:
Diff. Scoring Composite (DSC)...2.351 (7).......3.939 (1)

If you want to see it in context, click HERE.
 
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