2008 SEC Discussion

[BuckeyeTillIDie]

Clemson fucking sucks, and they always will. I'm tired of hearing about how good they are/their recruiting is. Every year it's the same crap, yet they manage to lose 4 games at the least.

 

[OregonBuckeye]

It's yet another example of what really makes a team great. The trenches and turnovers. Clemson's OL is green. Doesn't matter how many great skill guys you have. You need a solid OL. That's why I don't think LSU will suffer a severe drop-off from last year like others do.

 

[TheIronColonel]

So just out of curiosity, how bad is the SEC conference spin going to be on this? Florida will claim they beat a team that went to a BCS bowl last year (which is true), Alabama beat a top 10 ranked team (which they did), Tennessee will beat the pants off of a BCS opponent in UCLA (which they will, but I hope I jinx the fuck out of them), and SCU beat a BCS opponent (which is true).

Despite all of that being true, they didn't really beat any teams that are worth a damn. Clemson is chronically overrated due to the eternal shittiness of Tommy Bowden, NC State sucks, and Hawaii is a fucking joke. Even if Tennessee beats UCLA, it's still not impressive because UCLA is starting Phyllis Fucking Diller at quarterback. I know, I know - regional homerism. What's funny is that, despite the fact that none of these accomplishments are all that impressive, I was still impressed by the SEC (if for no other reason that they managed to avoid having their bottom shelf teams shit the bed against crappy opponents - something the Big Ten, ACC, and Big East really haven't been able to do).

 

[morbitzerker]

What's funny is that, despite the fact that none of these accomplishments are all that impressive, I was still impressed by the SEC (if for no other reason that they managed to avoid having their bottom shelf teams shit the bed against crappy opponents - something the Big Ten, ACC, and Big East really haven't been able to do).

Hawai'-June Jones-Colt Brennan-Bess= shit.

Oh, and Mississppi St. lost to Louisiana Tech. That's gotta be a hit to the ego.

 

[ArtilleryBuck]

I think the real solution is for them to just secede from the NCAA altogether. After all, they feel that they are so superior to everybody else that their number of losses should not be given the same consideration as others. They truly believe that the SEC champion should be automatically in the BCS championship game, regardless of record.

 

[cincibuck]

What the...? Have you read any previews in the offseason? All of them expect a rebuilding year for scUM. tOSU is the heavy favorite, followed by UW, and PSU and Illinois are also considered contenders. MSU was a surprise team but not a contender.

Don't know what previews you read that I didn't, but other than talking about the transition no one I read excluded Michigan from possibly becoming good enough to challenge for the title. It has ot been the kind of team that "rebuilds" but one like like Ohio State that "reloads."

I don't have any idea just how good Utah is or how bad Michigan is, but you expect a perrenial Big 10 power to win games against non-BCS teams.

 

[jwinslow]

Cinci, I'm not sure what you've been reading either.

The title contenders were osu, wisconsin, Penn state, and illinois. The sexy pick as a sleeper was msu (not so much to win but make noise, like ill last year). All four of these were ranked.

Michigan was not entering this game as a good team. They were underdogs (iirc), at home, to an unranked non-bcs team.

Michigan was being picked by most to struggle this year. They weren't being picked for 10 wins, the typical record for a b10 champ.

I'm not sure what you meant by your rebuild sentence, with the typo, but um certainly has had to rebuild in recent years. 2005, 2007.

Is it ugly for the b10? Of course, but that's on name alone. The announcer said it best, they are now at the point where this is not an upset.

Msu and ill were not that embarrassing, imo. Decent outings against solid opponents, and arguably better teams.

 

[Dryden]

Michigan was not entering this game as a good team. They were underdogs (iirc), at home, to an unranked non-bcs team.

Michigan was a 3.5 point favorite. Being at home is typically worth a FG, so the experts in the desert figured Michigan was still a half point better at a neutral site, and only would have been dogs if the game had been at Rice-Eccles.

 

[Magua]

Not trying to knock on the SEC but...

South Carolina's offense looked absolutely terrible against an even terribler(new word) NC State team.

Arkansas needed a last minute touchdown to beat Western Illinois or something like that...

Miss St. lost to Louisiana Tech

all conferences had ups and downs. Pitt got upset for the BigLeast. We all saw what happened to Clemson and Vtech out of the ACC. Texas A&M got upset by Arkansas State.

Honestly, if you take a peak around the Big10 and the Pac10 were the only major conferences to avoid a big upset.

 

[powerlifter]

Not trying to knock on the SEC but...(i'm not trying to knock any conference either.)

South Carolina's offense looked absolutely terrible against an even terribler(new word) NC State team. Final score 34-0

Arkansas needed a last minute touchdown to beat Western Illinois or something like that...True,not like it's going to matter at the end of the year if they would have lost or not imo(they have little to nothing..all guns are out of the holster),but they still won.Minnesota barely beat northern illi..Not really a big deal imo

Miss St. lost to Louisiana Tech Aren't they one of the worst teams in the sec? Seeing michigan lose to utah was more meaningful in the national eye for the big ten..People tend to remember who was who regardless of where they are now..Michigan is still supposed to be a "decent" team.It definitely didn't help the big 10 by them losing.There were several opportunities for a big 10 upset of a "better"team. It just didn't happen.

all conferences had ups and downs. Pitt got upset for the BigLeast. We all saw what happened to Clemson and Vtech out of the ACC. Texas A&M got upset by Arkansas State.

Honestly, if you take a peak around the Big10 and the Pac10 were the only major conferences to avoid a big upset.The pac 10,and sec both looked good.Big ten losses weren't brutal losses by any means. They played good teams,and lost,but should be respected imo. I was really pulling for illi,but they just didn't have enough as a team to hold off a pretty well oiled machine in mizz

I guess I just have a hard time keeping myself in denial that the sec is good. I see people on here admit that it's good,then try to play defensive mode non stop like we have a massive sec cult following here other then trolls and a few quality posters/fans.I was quoting as having a "lovefest with the sec",because I admitted that it's the best conference in college football.Any quality win is shot down.Sunday rolls around and it's "here we go again,we are never going to hear the end of these wins"..Well if the rest of the big ten would win their games,then it would be that way with the big ten. They don't so it's not.

Clemson was a joke,and it had nothing to do with bama being a good team.I read virginia was as bad as youngstown state,and usc's receivers still aren't any good.Lot's of double standards that don't really need to be. I mean you roll into cal and put up 40,win,and there is no care about the sec unless they are in the national title game.

 

[Best Buckeye]

You all better recognize the fact that until we beat someone from the SEC we are not as good as they are.
And I mean not just us but the whole big10 and others.

 

[Dryden]

You all better recognize the fact that until we beat someone from the SEC we are not as good as they are.
And I mean not just us but the whole big10 and others.

I believe the Big 10 is 9-8 vs the SEC head to head in bowls since 2002, and it's still pretty much even since the BCS began in 1998.

What's the story from college football in 2006? OSU getting blown out by Florida.

Nobody mentions the SEC lost their other two bowls vs Big 10 opponents.

What's the story from college football in 2007? OSU getting beat by LSU.

Nobody bothers to mention that OSU outgained LSU in the title game, a game in which they were supposedly "blown out," or that Michigan hung 41 points and over 500 yards on Florida.

Nope. It has NOTHING to do with the rest of the Big 10. The whole rep is solely OSU's fault. South Carolina. South Carolina. Florida. LSU. If OSU splits those the discussion is over.

 

[MD Buckeye]

ESPN - Georgia DT Owens to undergo season-ending surgery for torn ACL - College Football

Georgia DT Owens to undergo season-ending surgery for torn ACL

Top-ranked Georgia has suffered another blow up front.

Coach Mark Richt confirmed Sunday that defensive tackle Jeff Owens would undergo season-ending surgery on Sept. 9 after tearing the anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee during the Bulldogs' season-opening 45-21 win over Georgia Southern.

During the preseason, left offensive tackle Trinton Sturdivant tore his ACL and was lost for the season. Owens and Sturdivant were two of the top three linemen on Georgia's team along with defensive tackle Geno Atkins.

Owens started 26 games in his Bulldog career and his streak of 15 straight will end this Saturday.

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[MD Buckeye]

Gators ready to welcome 'Canes to Swamp after opening rout - NCAA Football - CBSSports.com Live Scores, Standings, Stats

Gators ready to welcome 'Canes to Swamp after opening rout

GAINESVILLE, Fla. -- It didn't take very long for Florida's focus to shift from beating Hawaii to facing rival Miami.
Maybe even less time than it took for Brandon James, Chris Rainey and Jeff Demps to score those long touchdowns in the fifth-ranked Gators' 56-10 victory Saturday.

Heisman Trophy winner Tim Tebow mentioned the Hurricanes several times in his postgame news conference, several teammates from South Florida talked about what it would mean to beat their hometown team, and receiver Louis Murphy clearly has been waiting for this one for a long time.

"We're going to let the dog eat," Murphy said. "It's rivalry week and we're going to come after them. They're going to come into The Swamp, trying to take our swagger, trying to take our throne, but we're not going to let that happen."

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[MD Buckeye]

ESPN - Injuries to Auburn's offense from opener include 3 receivers, 1 QB - College Football

Injuries to Auburn's offense from opener include 3 receivers, 1 QB

AUBURN, Ala. -- Auburn's offensive tally through one game: three injured receivers, one hurt quarterback and quite a few bruised egos.

Promising freshman receiver Philip Pierre-Louis tore a knee ligament returning the opening kickoff of the 10th-ranked Tigers' 34-0 win over Louisiana-Monroe and is lost for the season, coach Tommy Tuberville said Sunday.

Quarterback Kodi Burns is expected to miss Monday's practice after a large gash was opened on his shin by a facemask in the third quarter, but will play Saturday against Southern Mississippi. Tuberville said Burns had no swelling on the leg at all Sunday.

Starting receiver James Swinton hyperextended his knee on the next play and didn't return but shouldn't miss a game. Montez Billings (hamstring) missed the opener and is questionable again, Tuberville said.

Despite an ineffective passing game, Tuberville said the Tigers will stick with rotating Burns and Chris Todd at quarterback at least for one more game before the Southeastern Conference season starts.

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