2007 Penalty Breakdown

[bkochmc]

Added Kent State game... only 4 yellow hankies thrown all game.

OSU: 2 penalties for 20 yards, 1 offense, 1 defense (also had 1 penalty declined). Penalty YPG dropped from 45.8YPG to 42.1YPG.

KSU: 1 penalty for 10 yards. Opponents' PYPG dropped from 48.8YPG to 43.3YPG.

 

[bkochmc]

Added Michigan State game.

OSU: 7 penalties for 35 yards, 7 offense, ZERO defense. Penalty YPG dropped from 42.1YPG to 41.3YPG.

MSU: 2 penalties for 25 yards. Opponents' PYPG dropped from 43.3YPG to 41.0YPG.

If anyone knows who the unsportsmanlike conduct penalty was against at the beginning of the game post it here and I'll update the first post (I missed the opening drive).

This defense is scary good... they shut down the MSU running game without any penalties all game... just awesome.

 

[BuckeyeSoldier]

penalty in msu game was against spitler.

 

[bkochmc]

penalty in msu game was against spitler.

Thanks... greenies sent your way :)

 

[bkochmc]

Added Penn State game.

OSU: 4 penalties for 36 yards, 4 offense, ZERO defense. Penalty YPG dropped from 41.3YPG to 40.6YPG.

PSU: 2 penalties for 9 yards. Opponents' PYPG dropped from 41.0YPG to 37.4YPG.

Greenies if someone finds out who committed the personal foul after the punt return in the second quarter before I do.

EDIT: Just found it... Larry Grant.

 

[bkochmc]

I just saw a post over at Buckeye Commentary that had a quick mention about penalties...

Flag Conspiracy: Obviously said in jest but what the hell is going with the officiating of Ohio State football games? I know, I know, my good blog buddy John Gasaway, formerly of the Big Ten Wonk and now with Basketball Prospectus, taught me long ago that complaining about the refs is a tired pastime left best alone.

But, I can't help it.

The opponents of Ohio State are the least penalized of any Big Ten team...for the third straight year. Conversely, we've had the most flags against us (flags, not penalty yards). Nothin' to see here. Carry on.

Here are the Big Ten penalty stats for this year:

PENALTIES.............. G No Yds Avg/G
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1. Penn State.......... 9 35 282 31.3
2. Minnesota........... 9 46 352 39.1
3. Ohio State.......... 9 53 366 40.7
4. Michigan............ 9 46 380 42.2
5. Purdue.............. 9 50 385 42.8
6. Wisconsin........... 9 53 403 44.8
7. Northwestern........ 9 43 411 45.7
8. Iowa................ 9 52 435 48.3
9. Michigan State...... 9 47 449 49.9
10.Indiana............. 9 46 461 51.2
11.Illinois............ 9 47 464 51.6

OPPONENT PENALTIES..... G No Yds Avg/G
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1. Indiana............. 9 60 554 61.6
2. Northwestern........ 9 59 467 51.9
3. Purdue.............. 9 53 449 49.9
4. Michigan............ 9 47 398 44.2
5. Penn State.......... 9 47 384 42.7
6. Minnesota........... 9 46 374 41.6
7. Iowa................ 9 44 366 40.7
8. Illinois............ 9 49 361 40.1
8. Wisconsin........... 9 43 361 40.1
10.Michigan State...... 9 50 358 39.8
11.Ohio State.......... 9 38 337 37.4


I'll take this one step further... what is the differential for each team, both penalties and yards (- means the team listed has an advantage in the stat)?


PENALTY DIFFERENTIAL... G Dif Yds. Avg/G
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1. Penn State.......... 9 -12 -102 -11.3
2. Indiana............. 9 -14 -093 -10.3
3. Purdue.............. 9 -03 -064 -07.1
4. Northwestern........ 9 -16 -056 -06.2
5. Minnesota........... 9 000 -022 -02.4
6. Michigan............ 9 -01 -018 -02.0
7. Ohio State.......... 9 +15 +029 +03.2
8. Wisconsin........... 9 +10 +042 +04.7
9. Iowa................ 9 +08 +069 +07.7
10.Michigan State...... 9 -03 +091 +10.1
11.Illinois............ 9 -02 +103 +11.4

A couple of things to take away from this:

• While Ohio State has the largest penalty differential against (+15) the penalty yards per game differential is pretty close to zero... boils down to Ohio State false starting once more per game (which is the penalty they've had the most problems with). This also means Ohio State is not committing that many "stupid" penalties (personal fouls, pass interference, etc).
• While Illinois commits almost the same amount of penalties as their opponents do (2 less to be exact) their penalties are of a harsher kind (+11.4 YPG over their opponents)... Zook bringing the SEC mentality to the Big Ten?
• Surprising to see Northwestern with the largest penalty differential against (-16) and Michigan pretty much even (-1)... it seems that Michigan usually has less penalties than their opponents.
• Not surprising to see Penn State at the top of these statistics... a little home-cooking in Happy Valley or disciplined play by the Lions?

One other thing of note: Over half of Ohio State's 53 penalties involve the "mental" penalties on offense... false starts (15) and holding (13).

 

[Tlangs]

Added Penn State game.

OSU: 4 penalties for 36 yards, 4 offense, ZERO defense. Penalty YPG dropped from 41.3YPG to 40.6YPG.

PSU: 2 penalties for 9 yards. Opponents' PYPG dropped from 41.0YPG to 37.4YPG.

Greenies if someone finds out who committed the personal foul after the punt return in the second quarter before I do.

EDIT: Just found it... Larry Grant.

That was a BS call. The ball was on the ground and no one had recovered it. He blocked a guy that was running down the field to cover the kick. If the ball is live and no wistle had blown, how can you get a personal foul by knocking someone down who is covering the kick?

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

That was a BS call. The ball was on the ground and no one had recovered it. He blocked a guy that was running down the field to cover the kick. If the ball is live and no wistle had blown, how can you get a personal foul by knocking someone down who is covering the kick?

Agreed. Complete rubbish. If you want people to stop hitting, then blow the damn whistle.

 

[808 Buck]

One other thing of note: Over half of Ohio State's 53 penalties involve the "mental" penalties on offense... false starts (15) and holding (13).

False starts being called, I can live with. But, what steams me, and it's getting to be more and more frequent, is the disparity in the holding category. I do not wish to be a whiner, but in a close game, a penalty wiping out a big play for the Bucks, while an uncalled holding allowing a scoring drive to continue for an opponent, could be crucial. Sorry, gang, I have no facts/stats to back up my complaint (there is no category for uncalled holding), but I've seen enough football to know when holding should be called. Certain refs call a tighter game. That is fine, as long as they are consistent for both teams. I'm not seeing that. There are undressed Buckeye defenders on many plays, yet no call. If the Bucks hold, call it. If the opponent holds, call it. Or, better yet, keep that flag in your pocket, and let the players play. Either way, just be consistent. Apologies for a whiner post, but as the games get tighter, what is not called may impact a game, as much as what is. Rant over.

 

[bkochmc]

Added Wisconsin game.

OSU: 7 penalties for 76 yards, 4 offense, 4 defense (1 declined). Penalty YPG increased from 40.6YPG to 44.2YPG.

WISC: 6 penalties for 55 yards. Opponents' PYPG increased from 37.4YPG to 39.2YPG.

 

[CapnStubby]

False starts being called, I can live with. But, what steams me, and it's getting to be more and more frequent, is the disparity in the holding category.

Thought it was just me but there is nothing that gets me screaming at the TV more than watching the fondling take place while the opposing offense rips off a good play. I may be slightly biased but it sure does seem to be a one-way street against our D.

Maybe they are just looking at keeping the game in hand for our benefit.

 

[bkochmc]

Forgot Illinois game last week so here is the update for that and the Michigan game:

Illinois game:

OSU: 2 penalties for 9 yards, 3 offense (1 declined). Penalty YPG decreased from 44.2YPG to 41.0YPG.

ILL: 1 penalty for 10 yards. Opponents' PYPG decreased from 39.2YPG to 36.5YPG.



Michigan game:

OSU: 3 penalties for 40 yards, 1 offense, 2 defense. Penalty YPG decreased from 41.0YPG to 40.9YPG.

UM: 4 penalties for 45 yards. Opponents' PYPG increased from 36.5YPG to 37.3YPG.

 

[Gollum22]

Didn't see this on any other thread:

Was there any explanation (not that I expect any) for the following calls (no calls)?

1. No pass interference called on the Michigan defender on the Bucks' first drive when Hartline was mugged on about the 20 yard line? Mushberger said the ball was uncatchable, which it was because Hartline was being tackled and couldn't get to the ball.

2. The pass interference penalty called on Jenkins (I think) against Manningham (again, I think) when the ball was a good 15 yards over the scUM's head?

3. No intentional grounding called on Henne at the end of the first half when he was between the tackles and no scUM player anywhere close to the ball. Resulted in fourth down and scUM missed the FG but it was close. Penalty would have put them outside FG range. JT was visibly upset with the officials.

 

[sandgk]

Didn't see this on any other thread:

Was there any explanation (not that I expect any) for the following calls (no calls)?

1. No pass interference called on the Michigan defender on the Bucks' first drive when Hartline was mugged on about the 20 yard line? Mushberger said the ball was uncatchable, which it was because Hartline was being tackled and couldn't get to the ball.

2. The pass interference penalty called on Jenkins (I think) against Manningham (again, I think) when the ball was a good 15 yards over the scUM's head?

3. No intentional grounding called on Henne at the end of the first half when he was between the tackles and no scUM player anywhere close to the ball. Resulted in fourth down and scUM missed the FG but it was close. Penalty would have put them outside FG range. JT was visibly upset with the officials.

No explanation.

All the (no)calls were discussed.

 

[BB73]

Michigan game:

OSU: 3 penalties for 40 yards, 1 offense, 2 defense. Penalty YPG decreased from 41.0YPG to 40.9YPG.

UM: 4 penalties for 45 yards. Opponents' PYPG increased from 36.5YPG to 37.3YPG.

I think TSUN also declined a pair of calls on tOSU's offense. One was holding, I'm not sure if the other one also was.