2007 Penalty Breakdown

[bkochmc]

The LSU Football 101 thread got me wondering how Ohio State has been doing in the penalty department this year, especially in terms of defensive and personal fouls. Here's a table breakdown by game and I'll do my best to update this after each game. The stats are from the official OSU site:


Penalty Type.............YSU..AKR..WAS...NW..MIN..PUR..KSU..MSU..PSU..WIS..ILL...UM..TOTAL
Offensive Penalties
Clipping...................0....0....0....0....0....0....1....0....0....0....0....0......1
Delay of Game..............0....0....2....1....0....0....0....0....0....0....0....0......3
False Start................5....1....1....0....1....2....0....5....0....1....1....0.....17
Holding....................1....2....4....2....1....0....1#...0....2....1....1#...0.....15
Illegal Block (return).....0....0....0....0....1....0....0....0....0....1....0....1......3
Illegal Block (offense)....0....0....0....0....1#...0....0....0....0....0....0....0......1
Illegal Formation..........0....0....0....1....0....0....0....1....0....0....0....0......2
Illegal Participation......0....0....0....0....0....0....0....0....0....1....0....0......1
Illegal Procedure..........0....0....0....1....0....0....0....0....1....0....1....1#.....4
Illegal Shift..............0....1....0....0....1....0....0....0....0....0....0....0......2
Ineligable Receiver........0....0....1....0....0....0....0....0....0....0....0....0......1
Intentional Grounding......0....0....0....0....0....1....0....0....0....0....0....0......1
Personal Foul..............0....0....0....0....0....1....0....1....1^...0....0....0......3
Offensive Penalty Total.................................................................54

Defensive Penalties
12 Men on the Field........0....0....0....0....0....0....1....0....0....0....0....0......1
Face Mask (5-yard).........0....0....0....1....0....0....0....0....0....1#...0....0......2
Holding....................0....0....0....0....1....0....0....0....0....0....0....0......1
Offsides...................0....1....0....0....0....1....0....0....0....0....0....0......2
Pass Interference..........1....0....1....0....1....0....0....0....0....2....0....2......7
Personal Foul..............0....0....1....0....0....0....0....0....0....1&...0....0......2
Subsitiution...............2....0....0....0....0....0....0....0....0....0....0....0......2
Defensive Penalty Total.................................................................17


Official Game Totals.......9....5...10....6....5....5....2....7....4....7....2....3.....65
Game Penalty Yards........47...36...80...50...32...30...20...35...36...76....9...40....491 = 40.9ypg


Opponent Penalties.........4....5....7....8....6....3....1....2....2....6....1....4.....49
Opponent Penalty Yards....43...40...49...76...60...25...10...25....9...55...10...45....447 = 37.3ypg

# - a/the penalty was declined thus does not count towards the game total.
^ - Dead ball penalty after punt return
& - Dead ball penalty after kickoff

Personal Fouls
Washington - Anderson Russell (late hit)
Purdue - Steve Rehring (unnecessary roughness)
Michigan State - Austin Spitler (unsportsmanlike conduct)
Penn State - Larry Grant (Dead ball, late hit after an OSU punt return)
Wisconsin - ?

 

[Taosman]

NCAA Fewest Penalty rank #76. But, we have been substituting liberally.
I'm sure the coaches have a better handle on this than the numbers suggest.

 

[NightmaresDad]

What would be intersting to see is a comparison on our opponent's penalties versus us.
Every year since the '02 NC season, we have seen fewer penalties called against opposing offenses than they normally get against teams other than tOSU. It's a consistent trend every year since '02 so there has to be something to it.
There have already been a rash of obvious holidng penalties not called against our opponents this season and I don't want to see something like the Iowa game of '03 debacle cost us a game.

 

[Tlangs]

I think it would be interesting to see how many offensive holding penalties we receive vs. how many our oppenents receive. I bet it is getting called against us significantly more than our opponenet.

It is funny how Gholston and the boys are in the backfield all day long but are never held. However, we end up holding all the time. There are plays where Gholston gets dragged down from behind but no flag. Then we run the ball for a 2 yard gain and get a holding call. It drives me nuts.

 

[sandgk]

I just scanned through the Play-By-Play looking for 15 yard penalty calls against LSU's and 'SC's defense or special teams.

Not as many to throw into the hopper for LSU - though the 15-yarders committed seemed to be on the order of 7 or so through the five games, that seems to be a little low - so a resource like that found for the Buckeyes would be instructive.

For 'SC they had 15 yard hankies thrown at their defense by my count 12 times in four games. That is a pretty high rate. Plus, it is obvious from play-by-play that these cannot all be PI penalties. Many came on QB runs, or RB runs for example, implying either a direct personal foul or the hard facemask penalty.

Again though, I could not find the breakdown of those penalties. Plus, I am guessing that some of them would be offset not making it into the NCAA statistic count.

 

[TooTall]

That personal foul was a BAD CALL anyways. The guy was in bounds when contact was made and he started to go down, IN BOUNDS! Then came the flag.

 

[Bestbuck36]

That personal foul was a BAD CALL anyways. The guy was in bounds when contact was made and he started to go down, IN BOUNDS! Then came the flag.

You are correct sir!


The positive things I see from this penalty breakdown is that:

1. There are very few of the 15 yarder- unsportsmanlike/personal fouls.

2. Since the first game the offense is shooting itself in the foot much less often. The false starts have disappeared and we only get illegal shifts and motions called a minimal amount of times. Typical JT.

 

[bkochmc]

What would be intersting to see is a comparison on our opponent's penalties versus us.
Every year since the '02 NC season, we have seen fewer penalties called against opposing offenses than they normally get against teams other than tOSU. It's a consistent trend every year since '02 so there has to be something to it.

I can add the Buckeyes penalty yards per game and the opponent's number of penalties and yards.

EDIT: Added. OSU has 5 less penalties but opponents average 4.6ypg more in penalty yardage... not a big difference.

 

[martinss01]

Personal Fouls
Washington - Donald Washington

one minor issue with the list, the personal foul was against anderson russell not donald washington. donald had the coverage on the wr, wrapped up his legs and as the reciever was falling out of bounds russell pushed him. it was a ticky tack personal foul, but im not going to argue the call.

interesting list!

 

[bkochmc]

one minor issue with the list, the personal foul was against anderson russell not donald washington. donald had the coverage on the wr, wrapped up his legs and as the reciever was falling out of bounds russell pushed him. it was a ticky tack personal foul, but im not going to argue the call.

interesting list!

Not that I doubt you but here's what the official site says in the play-by-play (this has been wrong before):

W 1-15 V43 Locker, Jake pass complete to Reece, Marcel for 9 yards to the OSU34
(Washington, D), PENALTY OSU personal foul 15 yards to the OSU19, 1ST
DOWN WASH.

ESPN, CNNSI, and Yahoo do not mention who committed the foul. I'll check out the video tonight.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

one minor issue with the list, the personal foul was against anderson russell not donald washington. donald had the coverage on the wr, wrapped up his legs and as the reciever was falling out of bounds russell pushed him. it was a ticky tack personal foul, but im not going to argue the call.

interesting list!

Not that I doubt you but here's what the official site says in the play-by-play (this has been wrong before):

W 1-15 V43 Locker, Jake pass complete to Reece, Marcel for 9 yards to the OSU34
(Washington, D), PENALTY OSU personal foul 15 yards to the OSU19, 1ST
DOWN WASH.

ESPN, CNNSI, and Yahoo do not mention who committed the foul. I'll check out the video tonight.

bkochmc, the "(Washington, D)" in the play-by-play means he made the tackle, not the penalty. martinss01 is right, it was Russell (I specifically remember that play).

 

[bkochmc]

bkochmc, the "(Washington, D)" in the play-by-play means he made the tackle, not the penalty. martinss01 is right, it was Russell (I specifically remember that play).

That's the second :stupid: (<-- he's pointing to my user name) moment I've had today... I guess I'm balancing my good posts with bad ones.

 

[Tlangs]

me no likey penalties against tOSU.

 

[bkochmc]

Added Purdue game... a fairly clean game for both sides.

OSU: 5 penalties for 30 yards, 4 of the 5 on offense. Penalty YPG dropped from 49.0YPG to 45.8YPG.

Purdue: 3 penalties for 25 yards. Opponents' PYPG dropped from 53.6YPG to 48.8YPG.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Nice work on this one. Overall I've had the sense that other than the Akron game we've been pretty sharp and penalty free this year. Suprised to see we got called more in the UW game.

Don't forget to check out DBB's statistical analysis thread and look at Penalty Yards correlation to win %.