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2005 Cleveland Browns Draft Class

They grabbed Tony Sutton out of Wooster College. The kid had some sick stats..I know, it's Wooster but you can always dream.

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Senior Year:

2240 Yards, 31 TD's, 6.4 avg, 186.7 avg/per game

Junior Year:

2021 yards, 30 TD's, 7.2 avg, 217.2 avg/per game

Tony Sutton finished his career holding the season and career NCAC records for rushing yards, rushing touchdowns, total touchdowns, and all-purpose yards despite playing just three seasons.
 
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GoofyBuckeye said:
They grabbed Tony Sutton out of Wooster College. The kid had some sick stats..I know, it's Wooster but you can always dream.

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Senior Year:

2240 Yards, 31 TD's, 6.4 avg, 186.7 avg/per game

Junior Year:

2021 yards, 30 TD's, 7.2 avg, 217.2 avg/per game

Tony Sutton finished his career holding the season and career NCAC records for rushing yards, rushing touchdowns, total touchdowns, and all-purpose yards despite playing just three seasons.


5'10" is probably generous, but when you get a HOBAN KNIGHT BABY YOU KNOW... that you're getting a quality young man! Just look at me and NJ! HA!

Seriously, this would be a great story. A new age Rudy.
 
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Heard this last night on radio and saw it again on the list and it warrants a separate post. Mike Kne was invited to tryout for the Browns during this minicamp. So we have 2 Buckeyes in Browns rookie minicamp.
 
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</TD><TD noWrap width=3></TD><TD vAlign=top>Doc Gonzo: A Whiff of Common Sense
By Doc Gonzo
Date: Apr 28, 2005

Relative to what came before, Savage may look like a genius - but such titles are often short-lived...
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Phil Savage isn’t a genius.

His management of this past weekend’s NFL draft wasn’t evidence of any particular brilliance.

It was simply common sense and patience.

But when judged against the bizarre and mind-boggling absurdity of Butch Davis’ ham-fisted drafts, Savage looks like the NFL’s version of Aristotle, Rousseau and Einstein all in one.

It’s all context, of course. Savage, who may very well be an intellectual mastermind, simply did what any person with a shred of level-headedness would have done: Draft the best players available for the needs he has identified.

What? Doesn’t that clash? Aren’t there two schools draft-day philosophy, namely the best-player-available camp vs. picking-for-need camp?

The dichotomy is very real and very simple.

What draftniks refer to as “BPA” doesn’t necessarily mean best overall. My take is that Savage identified best players for particular needs. And then he drafted those players.

No rolling the bones. No consulting the I Ching. No gut feelings. No Magic 8-Ball. No reaching for players no one’s heard of. Just draft the best player for whatever position needs help. Which is all of them in Cleveland.

But what about Braylon Edwards? Wide receiver wasn’t generally perceived as a need for the Browns, right?

Take a closer look. What receivers on Cleveland’s roster strike fear into the hearts of opposing defenders?

None.

Certainly, Andre Davis, Antonio Bryant and Dennis Northcutt are serviceable players. They are adequate to fill roles, but none have blossomed into upper-tier receivers. That may be because of factors beyond their control, but the fact remains they are not considered among the best in the league. They’re not game-breakers.

Now, they have a new role: Complement Edwards.

The rookie from Michigan has a blank professional resume, but he certainly brings the most exciting draftee potential to the position in Cleveland since Paul Warfield. He automatically commands respect from opposing defenses based on being the No. 3 overall draft pick.

Rookie wide receivers, unlike, say, rookie offensive lineman, often can make an impact quickly on a team. It’s not unreasonable to believe Edwards will do just that. And if he does, that will quickly draw attention from defenses -- freeing up the veteran receivers.

More importantly, Edwards draws attention away from Kellen Winslow II.

Edwards may be flash, but it’s going to be Winslow that propels the offense. It’s no secret coach Romeo Crennel wants a grinding rushing game to form the backbone of the offense, but for it to work there has to be an effective passing game.

With a journeyman quarterback under center, the team isn’t likely planning to stretch the field often. Instead, the passing offense can be expected to be a limited, high-percentage, conservative affair that protects the ball while moving the chains.

A tight end with to-the-moon potential is the perfect figure around which to build such an offense. And by adding a star wide receiver, you’ve just made that tight end all the more valuable.

Butch Davis was able to emerge from his addled hillbilly stupor long enough to draft Winslow last year, so we have him to thank for some of the future success in Cleveland. But it’s Savage that’s going to be the final architect.

Cleveland fans are notorious for very intense and very brief honeymoons with new Browns administrations. As I’ve said before, the “Jacobin sensibilities” of the Dawg Pound exert a powerful influence in Cleveland, and it will be vital for Savage to elevate himself above the sound and fury.

Savage has preached from Day 1 that any eventual Super Bowl will require several years of reconstruction through the draft and free agency. The team that emerges to grasp the Lombardi Trophy will be a very different one that slunk off the field at Houston last year. In fact, they’re starting almost from scratch.

What Savage has been telling us is that 2005 is what 1999 should have been. This is again an expansion team, the one Cleveland should have been able to build six years ago. It will have been built by men with common sense and a plan.

The genius of Phil Savage isn’t draft-day cunning or clever free-agent maneuvering.

It’s the staggering simplicity and forthright honesty.

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interesting read.

while it is somewhat true, where savage has earned his rep is from making very good picks in the 4th round and later.

guys like chester taylor in the 6th round and marques douglas as an undrafted free agent are what helped build baltimore. add to that the fact that a very high majority of their 1st round picks have become pro bowlers.
 
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</TD><TD noWrap width=3></TD><TD vAlign=top>Swerb's Blurbs: Draft Eval Edition
By Rich Swerbinsky
Date: May 8, 2005

By popular request, he's an article that's DOESN'T EVEN MENTION Kellen Winslow. Hoorah! Rich Swerbinsky offered up mock drafts and his thoughts about the 2005 draft as far back as last fall. So, who doubted that he would have some opinions about what transpired late last month? Fighting past logistical challenges and the usual webmaster fumbling, Swerb has emerged victorious in his quest to share his thoughts on the draft...
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THE MAN WITH A PLAN

First things first. If Butch Davis was still here, and executed that exact same draft, the majority of the fan base would be up in arms. That is not opinion, it is fact.

The team once again ignored the offensive line and sorely lacks depth there. They added no impact college prospects to a front seven that is thinner than Ally McBeal after a four hour sauna session. They exhausted their first three selections on a receiver, a safety, and a quarterback … all positions they addressed early last year as well. They missed out on an opportunity to move down to #5 with Tampa Bay, where they could have still likely selected Braylon Edwards, and also came away with an early second day pick.

Make no mistake; these are all things Butch Davis would have been crucified for.

Yet in the days and weeks that followed this year’s draft, the reaction from Clevelanders and the Cleveland media has been generally positive.

I think there are several reasons for this.

One, I think the fan base trusts Savage. Unlike his predecessor, he has been open and honest with the fans and media from day one about the type of team he is trying to build here ... and how he wants to do it. And he has a track record of success at the NFL level selecting players and helping to build a championship team.

Secondly, Savage went best player available across the board, a strategy that was justified by multiple Pro Bowl selections over an impressive nine-year stretch in Crackmore. At the end of the day, it’s hard to blame the guy for taking the best guy off the board with every pick, especially given his reputation as one of the league’s top talent evaluators.

Lastly, Savage has a plan, and adhered to that plan despite numerous temptations to cheapen himself and stray from the charted course. He was also very clear about the fact that this team has more holes than one free agency period and college draft can fill. The roster purge of players who were overpaid, lacked motivation, were injury risks, or were malcontents not only created more holes, but also dramatically scaled back the list of guys Savage was willing to even consider selecting. In a draft that saw 255 players get selected, Savage only compiled a list of 140 names, and repeatedly passed on players that had slid, but presented any semblance of a downside risk. Even if you disagree with that philosophy, you have to respect it.


MY TAKE

I was generally pleased by last years’ effort. Not elated, not distraught. My personal belief is that the road to the Super Bowl in Cleveland means winning tough, defensive, low-scoring games at home in December and January, and that the best way to win those games is by building your team around good coaching, a tough running game, and deep and talented defense that makes plays. Taking a WR #3 doesn’t necessarily jive with that MO, but really, what the hell do I know?

This all being said, it’s tough to win games (regardless of your style of play) without smart wide receivers that make plays, and every wide receiver on our roster was an incomplete player lacking #1 WR ability, and with downside risks. No receiver on our roster has ever booked an injury free, productive campaign … and counting on them to do so going forward would be foolish. Andre Davis has one year left on his deal, as does Antonio Bryant. Northcutt has two, and is limited as a wideout. Savage saw an opportunity to add a key piece that would improve the WR corps as a whole for years to come, and he jumped on it knowing that he is instituting a long term plan. Braylon has all the intangibles, most importantly between the ears, and his chances of being a bust were as low as any player in this draft.

While I was surprised the team took Brodney Pool, after researching the pick further, I realized how foolish I was for not seeing this possibility coming. Savage has talked repeatedly about “hitting singles” and “making pars” when it comes to draft day, and Brodney Pool is another very safe selection for a team that can’t afford to miss. He’s a high character guy, a leader, has ideal size and speed, and has a high football IQ. Going back last night and watching tapes of him on NFL Network On Demand showed me that he does have the athletic ability to potentially be a big, physical corner or nickel man. Pool can play, and even if he may not play the position of biggest need, good DB’s are always a need … and this kid has a very good chance to be a very good player. In addition to possibly giving him looks at cornerback, I think Romeo will also look to utilize his athletic ability some off the edge rushing the passer in spots.

I love the Charlie Frye pick, and think he is a perfect for this town. Much like another local kid from about twenty years ago, he has some technique flaws that you can pick apart on film, but also possesses many intangibles that can’t be measured by the film geeks.

On day two, I was glad to see defense addressed aggressively, though I would have taken Elton Brown over Antonio Perkins. That was my one major beef with the draft. In years past I was tough on the team for taking Willie Green over Toniu Fonoti, and for taking Faine over Steinbach, and have unfortunately been justified in both criticisms. Let’s hope I’m wrong here, but I think Elton Brown becomes a very good guard in this league. And this offensive line is nothing but major question marks behind a starting five with three starters who will be over 30 years of age once the season starts.

McMillan and Speegle were both scheme/character selections, and here’s hoping one of them becomes a serviceable OLB for Romeo. Browns fans are going to love Speegle, he screams Cleveland Browns football. I’m working on trying to nail him down for an interview right now.

Hoffman and Dunn are both intriguing selections, but I personally would have liked to have seen the trenches addressed earlier. This team is very weak on both lines, and poor line play caused by lackluster depth can have a ripple effect through a teams overall performance on the field … as we’ve seen repeatedly in this town. I can’t argue with the day one selections, but I would have addressed the trenches early in day two with the Perkins and McMillan picks.


DON’T GO COLD ON US PHIL

One thing completely ignored by Browns fans and the local media in the four-month honeymoon that bridged the gap from Savage’s hire to the draft was the fact that Savage’s last two draft day efforts in Baltimore were far from exemplary. While the jury is still out on several of these guys, and injuries have hampered others, the fact remains that just one (Terrell Suggs) of the sixteen selections of the 2003 and 2004 Raven drafts has yet to amount to anything even close to resembling a consistent NFL starter.

2003

1<SUP>st</SUP> round: LB Terrell Suggs, Arizona St. – Suggs has been great for the Ravens, made his first Pro Bowl last season, and has 22.5 sacks in two years in the league.

1<SUP>st</SUP> round: QB Kyle Boller, California – Jury is still out on this young signal caller that the Ravens traded their 2004 #1 pick for. In 25 starts, Boller has thrown just 20 touchdowns, and has a quarterback rating of 68.1.

3<SUP>rd</SUP> round: RB Musa Smith, Georgia – Smith has struggled with injuries and inconsistency, and has been unable to unseat Chester Taylor as the primary backup to Eight Ball Jamal. He carried the ball just 12 times last year.

4<SUP>th</SUP> round: DT Jarrett Johnson, Alabama – Johnson has had little to no impact as a reserve player for the Ravens, posting just 28 tackles in his first two seasons.

4<SUP>th</SUP> round: FB Ovie Mughelli, Wake Forest – Mughelli has been inactive for 23 of his 32 games as a professional.

5<SUP>th</SUP> round: DT Aubrayo Franklin, Tennessee – Franklin has been inactive for 25 of his 32 games as a professional.

5<SUP>th</SUP> round: OT Tony Pashos, Illinois – Pashos has seen action in just six games in two years as a reserve, and is a long shot to make the Ravens roster this year with their selection of Adam Terry this season.

6<SUP>th</SUP> round: S Gerome Sapp, Notre Dame- Sapp was waived by the Ravens last year.

7<SUP>th</SUP> round: TE Trent Smith, Oklahoma – Smith is listed as 5<SUP>th</SUP> on the Ravens depth chart at tight end right now.

7<SUP>th</SUP> round: C Mike Mabry, Central Florida – Mabry was cut by the Ravens.

7<SUP>th</SUP> round: S Antwoine Sanders, Utah – Sanders was cut by the Ravens.

2004

2<SUP>nd</SUP> round: DT Dwan Edwards, Oregon St – Disappointed last season, had just one tackle.

3<SUP>rd</SUP> round: WR Devard Darling, Washington St. – Injured all last year, will struggle to see the field with Mason and Clayton now in tow.

5<SUP>th</SUP> round: OLB Roderick Green, Central Missouri – Saw limited action on special teams, ended year with just six tackles.

6<SUP>th</SUP> round: QB Josh Harris, Bowling Green – Waived by the Ravens, now a member of the Browns.

6<SUP>th</SUP> round: WR Clarence Moore, Northern Arizona – Moore caught 24 balls and 4 touchdowns for the Ravens last season and will battle with Mark Clayton for a starting role opposite Derrick Mason.

7<SUP>th</SUP> round: WR Derek Abney, Kentucky – Abney is buried on the Ravens depth chart at WR and is a long shot to make the team in ’05.

7<SUP>th</SUP> round: WR Brian Rimpf, East Carolina – Rimpf was waived by the Ravens.

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as it relates to draft picks in he article above, it must be pointed out that savage was all about leftwich, but chicago and jacksonville tied up the phone lines which made baltimore unable to trade up with chicago. billick was the big supported of boller.

as for day 2 picks, not too many 6th and 7th rounders make it big in the nfl, so i dont know how much stock to put in that. however, look at the undrafted FA baltimore brought in. Chestor Taylor and Marques Douglas both have done very well. It really is a crapshoot.
 
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While the jury is still out on several of these guys, and injuries have hampered others, the fact remains that just one (Terrell Suggs) of the sixteen selections of the 2003 and 2004 Raven drafts has yet to amount to anything even close to resembling a consistent NFL starter.
Well, that's still one more than the Browns got during the same time period.
 
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Peter King:

Stat of the Week
A comparison of the last three expansion teams shows just how horrendously the Cleveland Browns have drafted since they returned to the NFL in 1999.

Records of Jacksonville, Carolina and Cleveland in their first six seasons, including playoff games:

Jacksonville -- 60-44
Carolina -- 46-52
Cleveland -- 30-67

Number of Pro Bowl players drafted in the first three rounds of the first six seasons:

Jacksonville -- Five
Carolina -- Two
Cleveland -- Zero

Of the 20 players Cleveland has drafted in the first three rounds of its six inaugural drafts, only three are listed as starters on the offseason depth chart: center Jeff Faine (first round, 2003), safety Sean Jones (second round, 2004) and wide receiver Dennis Northcutt (second round, 2000).

That is some disgraceful player evaluation and development.


:slappy: :slappy:
 
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</TD><TD noWrap width=3></TD><TD vAlign=top>Draft Review: Cleveland Browns
By TFY Draft Preview
Date: May 10, 2005

The Phil Savage/Romeo Crennel regime is going full force and the tandem had their first opportunity to add players through the draft last month. With the third overall choice the Browns were again in a position to get one of the top rated players in a draft. With a slew of needs, the Browns were rumored to be involved in a series of trades which never came to fruition.
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Braylon Edwards was considered the best player in the draft by many and the Browns swiped him off the board with the third pick. In adding the former University of Michigan star, the team finally secured a game breaking and game controlling receiver. Edwards should start immediately for the Browns and could be an impact player by his second year in the league. Learning along with Edwards will be Akron quarterback Charlie Frye, the teams third round selection. Many felt Frye would go early in the second round but a poor combine pushed him down draft boards . Frye remains in his home state and will be given time with the hopes he can take over the reigns of the franchise behind center. Brodney Pool, the team’s second choice, will likely be an immediate starter at safety along with last years second round selection Sean Jones. Pool is a natural playmaker at free safety and was effective against both the run and the pass at Oklahoma. His cover skills are considered to be on a par with any safety that's come out of recent drafts. Pool's college teammate, Antonio Perkins was selected in round four. Perkinscould see playing time as a nickel or dime back yet will almost certainly be called on as the teams return specialist, an area where he excelled at Oklahoma. Linebackers David McMillan and Nick Speegle, of Kansas and New Mexico respectively, will both have to earn their roster spots on special teams while they grow into the offense. McMillan was a defensive end in college while many thought Speegle would've been best at that position. Both have the stature and physical skills to develop into outside linebackers in Crennel's 3-4 defense. Virginia defensive lineman Andrew Hoffman has the mentality and playing style to be used at nose tackle. He is a ferocious and explosive lineman in the middle. Virginia Tech Hokie Jon Dunn offers the team a solid developmental prospect with a good upside.

The Browns went heavy in the undrafted free agent market and came away with a few gems. If his shoulder ever gets back to full health Lance Moore is a perfect fit as a fourth receiver/return specialist. Simon Fraser has potential as a back-up two-gap lineman for the Brown's defense.

Cleveland’s first day was fantastic as they added two immediate starters and a potential starting quarterback. Their second day was not as impressive; they took many low ranked players who are basically projects, all along passing up higher graded players. Still, with the holes on Cleveland's roster many of these players will be wearing Browns uniforms this September.

<CENTER><TABLE borderColor=#000000 width=400 border=1><TBODY><TR class=ysptblclbg3><TD class=yspdetailttl align=right width=20 height=12>Rd </TD><TD class=yspdetailttl height=12>Pick</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl height=12>Player</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl height=12>Pos</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl height=12>School</TD></TR><TR class=ysptblclbg3><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap align=right height=18>1 </TD><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap align=right width=20 height=12>3 (3) </TD><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap height=12>Braylon Edwards </TD><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap height=12>WR </TD><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap height=12>Michigan </TD></TR><TR class=ysptblclbg3><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap align=right height=18>2 </TD><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap align=right width=20 height=12>2 (34) </TD><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap height=12>Brodney Pool </TD><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap height=12>S </TD><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap height=12>Oklahoma </TD></TR><TR class=ysptblclbg3><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap align=right height=18>3 </TD><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap align=right width=20 height=12>3 (67) </TD><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap height=12>Charlie Frye </TD><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap height=12>QB </TD><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap height=12>Akron </TD></TR><TR class=ysptblclbg3><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap align=right height=18>4 </TD><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap align=right width=20 height=12>2 (103) </TD><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap height=12>Antonio Perkins </TD><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap height=12>CB </TD><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap height=12>Oklahoma </TD></TR><TR class=ysptblclbg3><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap align=right height=18>5 </TD><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap align=right width=20 height=12>3 (139) </TD><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap height=12>David McMillan </TD><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap height=12>DE </TD><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap height=12>Kansas </TD></TR><TR class=ysptblclbg3><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap align=right height=18>6 </TD><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap align=right width=20 height=12>2 (176) </TD><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap height=12>Nick Speegle </TD><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap height=12>OLB </TD><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap height=12>New Mexico </TD></TR><TR class=ysptblclbg3><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap align=right height=18>6 </TD><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap align=right width=20 height=12>29 (203) </TD><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap height=12>Andrew Hoffman </TD><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap height=12>DT </TD><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap height=12>Virginia </TD></TR><TR class=ysptblclbg3><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap align=right height=18>7 </TD><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap align=right width=20 height=12>3 (217) </TD><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap height=12>Jon Dunn </TD><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap height=12>OT </TD><TD class=yspscores vAlign=top noWrap height=12>Virginia Tech </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></CENTER>​
UDFA Signinigs: QB Lang Campbell, QB/WR Josh Cribbs, RB Tony Sutton, RB Chad Scott, WR Lance Moore, WR Bradley Chavez, WR Bill Flowers, WR Brandon Rideau, TE Paul Irons, OT Clint Stickdorn, DT Larry Burt, DT Ellery Moore, DE Simon Fraser, DE Kevin Carberry, DE J'vonne Parker, LB Eric Mahl, LB Kevin Harrison, DB James King, DB Charles Boyd, DB Jamall Johnson, DB Justin Fraley

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