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Don't you mean #2 vs. #3. After that impressive 4 point win against an unranked team, the voters really will have no other option than to move Notre Dame into the #1 spot.
Yea, well when ESPN is pumping you, and hype is at an all time high, Touchdown Jesus is capable of doing anything.
They shouldn't be #2 to begin with, and after they lose the next 2 games, ESPN and the media will be screwed again.
That's what happens when you give the national title to USC for 3 straight years, and then revert to selling them out once they lose. Same will happen with Notre Dame.
Only thing I fear is that if Notre Dame loses OSU will get the idiotic hype. Although somehow I think mushmouth will not seem so emphatic as he does for his ole university.
This should be a #1/#2 game, in all polls. Texas deserves to be #1 until they lose, in my opinion. They deserve it. When we beat them on Saturday, then we should get the nod for #1.
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If Notre Dame plays at the same level against TSUN they won't be undefeated long. Mind you, on the other hand, IVoyd is coaching...
I don't know what I would give to see the Big Ten be undefeated against Notre Dame this year. I don't think it will happen, but I would really like to see that.
I don't know what I would give to see the Big Ten be undefeated against Notre Dame this year. I don't think it will happen, but I would really like to see that.
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Texas is now #2 in the AP poll (as I expected), so the historical references in post #2 of this thread are relevant.
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Three #1 vs #2 Matchups this Season?
Here is something to think about. OSU already played Texas in a #1 vs #2 game earlier in the season. Now, if Michigan and OSU win out going into 'The Game' and a few other teams lose a game, The Game could potentially be another #1 vs #2 matchup. Which would probably be one of the biggest OSU-Michigan games ever. Now if OSU wins that #1 vs #2 matchup, OSU would be playing in another #1 vs #2 matchup in the National Championship.
As far as i know there have never been this many #1 vs #2 matchups in a season, let alone the same team in every one. Just something to think about.
Here is something to think about. OSU already played Texas in a #1 vs #2 game earlier in the season. Now, if Michigan and OSU win out going into 'The Game' and a few other teams lose a game, The Game could potentially be another #1 vs #2 matchup. Which would probably be one of the biggest OSU-Michigan games ever. Now if OSU wins that #1 vs #2 matchup, OSU would be playing in another #1 vs #2 matchup in the National Championship.
As far as i know there have never been this many #1 vs #2 matchups in a season, let alone the same team in every one. Just something to think about.
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Only 8 times has a team been involved in a pair of #1 vs. #2 games in the same football season (note - this uses AP poll rankings of #1 vs #2 only).
The same #1 team has now beaten a pair of #2 teams in 4 different seasons:
1943 Notre Dame.....defeated #2 Michigan, and #2 Iowa Pre-Flight
1945 Army..............defeated #2 Notre Dame, and #2 Navy
1971 Nebraska.........defeated #2 Oklahoma, and #2 Alabama (Orange Bowl)
2006 Ohio State.......defeated #2 Texas, and #2 Michigan, lost to #2 Florida
Only 4 other teams have been involved in a pair of #1 vs. #2 matchups in the same season:
1963 Texas.............defeated #1 Oklahoma, defeated #2 Navy (Cotton Bowl)
1986 Miami..............defeated #1 Oklahoma, LOST to #2 Penn State (Fiesta Bowl)
1987 Oklahoma........defeated #1 Nebraska, LOST to #2 Miami (Orange Bowl)
1993 Florida St.........LOST to #2 Notre Dame, defeated #2 Nebraska (Orange Bowl)
Thus, only 4 teams before 2006 had ever won a pair of #1 vs #2 matchups in the same year, and all four won the National Championship.
The same #1 team has now beaten a pair of #2 teams in 4 different seasons:
1943 Notre Dame.....defeated #2 Michigan, and #2 Iowa Pre-Flight
1945 Army..............defeated #2 Notre Dame, and #2 Navy
1971 Nebraska.........defeated #2 Oklahoma, and #2 Alabama (Orange Bowl)
2006 Ohio State.......defeated #2 Texas, and #2 Michigan, lost to #2 Florida
Only 4 other teams have been involved in a pair of #1 vs. #2 matchups in the same season:
1963 Texas.............defeated #1 Oklahoma, defeated #2 Navy (Cotton Bowl)
1986 Miami..............defeated #1 Oklahoma, LOST to #2 Penn State (Fiesta Bowl)
1987 Oklahoma........defeated #1 Nebraska, LOST to #2 Miami (Orange Bowl)
1993 Florida St.........LOST to #2 Notre Dame, defeated #2 Nebraska (Orange Bowl)
Thus, only 4 teams before 2006 had ever won a pair of #1 vs #2 matchups in the same year, and all four won the National Championship.
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This year's BCS title game will be the 40th game in which the top two teams of the AP poll have played. Additional BCS 1-2 games are listed in the note at the end of this post.
Here's the list, as far as the AP poll's #1 vs #2 in the regular season (it's happened 17 more times in Bowl games, including tOSU's 1969 Rose Bowl win over #2 USC and the 2003 Fiesta Bowl triumph over #1 Miami):
Regular season football games between AP #1 and AP #2 (edit - updated 01/09/07):
Nov. 18, 2006 - No. 1 Ohio State 42, No. 2 Michigan 39
Sep. 09, 2006 - No. 1 Ohio State 24, No. 2 Texas 7
Nov. 30, 1996 - No. 2 Florida State 24, No. 1 Florida 21
Nov. 13, 1993 - No. 2 Notre Dame 31, No. 1 Florida State 24
Nov. 16, 1991 - No. 2 Miami 17, No. 1 Florida State 16
Sep. 16, 1989 - No. 1 Notre Dame 24, No. 2 Michigan 19
Nov. 26, 1988 - No. 1 Notre Dame 27, No. 2 Southern California 10
Nov. 21, 1987 - No. 2 Oklahoma 17, No. 1 Nebraska 7
Sep. 27, 1986 - No. 2 Miami 28, No. 1 Oklahoma 16
Oct. 19, 1985 - No. 1 Iowa 12, No. 2 Michigan 10
Sep. 26, 1981 - No. 1 Southern California 28, No. 2 Oklahoma 24
Nov. 25, 1971 - No. 1 Nebraska 35, No. 2 Oklahoma 31
Dec. 06, 1969 - No. 1 Texas 15, No. 2 Arkansas 14
Sep. 28, 1968 - No. 1 Purdue 37, No. 2 Notre Dame 22
Nov. 19, 1966 - No. 1 Notre Dame 10, No. 2 Michigan State 10, tie
Oct. 12, 1963 - No. 2 Texas 28, No. 1 Oklahoma 7
Nov. 09, 1946 - No. 1 Army 0, No. 2 Notre Dame 0, tie
Dec. 01, 1945 - No. 1 Army 32, No. 2 Navy 13
Nov. 10, 1945 - No. 1 Army 48, No. 2 Notre Dame 0
Dec. 02, 1944 - No. 1 Army 23, No. 2 Navy 7
Nov. 20, 1943 - No. 1 Notre Dame 14, No. 2 Iowa Pre-Flight 13
Oct. 09, 1943 - No. 1 Notre Dame 35, No. 2 Michigan 12
Edit - Here are all of the Bowl games between AP #1 and AP #2:
Jan. 08, 2007 - No. 2 Florida 41, No. 1 Ohio St. 14 (BCS Championship)
Jan. 04, 2006 - No. 2 Texas 41, No. 1 Southern California 38 (Rose)
Jan. 04, 2005 - No. 1 Southern California 55, No. 2 Oklahoma 19 (Orange)
Jan. 03, 2003 - No. 2 Ohio St. 31, No. 1 Miami 24, 2OT (Fiesta)
Jan. 04, 2000 - No. 1 Florida St. 46, No. 2 Virginia Tech 29 (Sugar)
Jan. 04, 1999 - No. 1 Tennessee 23, No. 2 Florida St. 16 (Fiesta)
Jan. 02, 1996 - No. 1 Nebraska 62, No. 2 Florida 24 (Fiesta)
Jan. 01, 1994 - No. 1 Florida St. 18, No. 2 Nebraska 16 (Orange)
Jan. 01, 1993 - No. 2 Alabama 34, No. 1 Miami 13 (Sugar)
Jan. 01, 1988 - No. 2 Miami 20, No. 1 Oklahoma 14 (Orange)
Jan. 02, 1987 - No. 2 Penn St. 14, No. 1 Miami 10 (Fiesta)
Jan. 01, 1983 - No. 2 Penn St. 27, No. 1 Georgia 23 (Sugar)
Jan. 01, 1979 - No. 2 Alabama 14, No. 1 Penn St. 7 (Sugar)
Jan. 01, 1972 - No. 1 Nebraska 38, No. 2 Alabama 6 (Orange)
Jan. 01, 1969 - No. 1 Ohio State 27, No. 2 Southern California 16 (Rose)
Jan. 01, 1964 - No. 1 Texas 28, No. 2 Navy 6 (Cotton)
Jan. 01, 1963 - No. 1 Southern California 42, No. 2 Wisconsin 37 (Rose)
Note - there have been a few games between BCS #1 and BCS #2 teams that did not own the top two spots in the AP poll when they played.
In 2000 and 2001, Oklahoma and Nebraska met when they were #1 and #2 in the BCS (both times after the first week of the BCS rankings). They were #1 and #3 in the AP in 2000 (#3 Oklahoma won), and #2 and #3 (#3 Nebraska won) in the AP in 2001. Also, the BCS title games after the 2000, 2001, and 2003 seasons featured games between teams that were not 1-2 in the AP poll. After the 2000 season, AP #1 Oklahoma defeated AP #3 Florida State; after the 2001 season, AP #1 Miami defeated AP #4 Nebraska; and after the 2003 season, AP #2 LSU defeated AP #3 Oklahoma.
Here's the list, as far as the AP poll's #1 vs #2 in the regular season (it's happened 17 more times in Bowl games, including tOSU's 1969 Rose Bowl win over #2 USC and the 2003 Fiesta Bowl triumph over #1 Miami):
Regular season football games between AP #1 and AP #2 (edit - updated 01/09/07):
Nov. 18, 2006 - No. 1 Ohio State 42, No. 2 Michigan 39
Sep. 09, 2006 - No. 1 Ohio State 24, No. 2 Texas 7
Nov. 30, 1996 - No. 2 Florida State 24, No. 1 Florida 21
Nov. 13, 1993 - No. 2 Notre Dame 31, No. 1 Florida State 24
Nov. 16, 1991 - No. 2 Miami 17, No. 1 Florida State 16
Sep. 16, 1989 - No. 1 Notre Dame 24, No. 2 Michigan 19
Nov. 26, 1988 - No. 1 Notre Dame 27, No. 2 Southern California 10
Nov. 21, 1987 - No. 2 Oklahoma 17, No. 1 Nebraska 7
Sep. 27, 1986 - No. 2 Miami 28, No. 1 Oklahoma 16
Oct. 19, 1985 - No. 1 Iowa 12, No. 2 Michigan 10
Sep. 26, 1981 - No. 1 Southern California 28, No. 2 Oklahoma 24
Nov. 25, 1971 - No. 1 Nebraska 35, No. 2 Oklahoma 31
Dec. 06, 1969 - No. 1 Texas 15, No. 2 Arkansas 14
Sep. 28, 1968 - No. 1 Purdue 37, No. 2 Notre Dame 22
Nov. 19, 1966 - No. 1 Notre Dame 10, No. 2 Michigan State 10, tie
Oct. 12, 1963 - No. 2 Texas 28, No. 1 Oklahoma 7
Nov. 09, 1946 - No. 1 Army 0, No. 2 Notre Dame 0, tie
Dec. 01, 1945 - No. 1 Army 32, No. 2 Navy 13
Nov. 10, 1945 - No. 1 Army 48, No. 2 Notre Dame 0
Dec. 02, 1944 - No. 1 Army 23, No. 2 Navy 7
Nov. 20, 1943 - No. 1 Notre Dame 14, No. 2 Iowa Pre-Flight 13
Oct. 09, 1943 - No. 1 Notre Dame 35, No. 2 Michigan 12
Edit - Here are all of the Bowl games between AP #1 and AP #2:
Jan. 08, 2007 - No. 2 Florida 41, No. 1 Ohio St. 14 (BCS Championship)
Jan. 04, 2006 - No. 2 Texas 41, No. 1 Southern California 38 (Rose)
Jan. 04, 2005 - No. 1 Southern California 55, No. 2 Oklahoma 19 (Orange)
Jan. 03, 2003 - No. 2 Ohio St. 31, No. 1 Miami 24, 2OT (Fiesta)
Jan. 04, 2000 - No. 1 Florida St. 46, No. 2 Virginia Tech 29 (Sugar)
Jan. 04, 1999 - No. 1 Tennessee 23, No. 2 Florida St. 16 (Fiesta)
Jan. 02, 1996 - No. 1 Nebraska 62, No. 2 Florida 24 (Fiesta)
Jan. 01, 1994 - No. 1 Florida St. 18, No. 2 Nebraska 16 (Orange)
Jan. 01, 1993 - No. 2 Alabama 34, No. 1 Miami 13 (Sugar)
Jan. 01, 1988 - No. 2 Miami 20, No. 1 Oklahoma 14 (Orange)
Jan. 02, 1987 - No. 2 Penn St. 14, No. 1 Miami 10 (Fiesta)
Jan. 01, 1983 - No. 2 Penn St. 27, No. 1 Georgia 23 (Sugar)
Jan. 01, 1979 - No. 2 Alabama 14, No. 1 Penn St. 7 (Sugar)
Jan. 01, 1972 - No. 1 Nebraska 38, No. 2 Alabama 6 (Orange)
Jan. 01, 1969 - No. 1 Ohio State 27, No. 2 Southern California 16 (Rose)
Jan. 01, 1964 - No. 1 Texas 28, No. 2 Navy 6 (Cotton)
Jan. 01, 1963 - No. 1 Southern California 42, No. 2 Wisconsin 37 (Rose)
Note - there have been a few games between BCS #1 and BCS #2 teams that did not own the top two spots in the AP poll when they played.
In 2000 and 2001, Oklahoma and Nebraska met when they were #1 and #2 in the BCS (both times after the first week of the BCS rankings). They were #1 and #3 in the AP in 2000 (#3 Oklahoma won), and #2 and #3 (#3 Nebraska won) in the AP in 2001. Also, the BCS title games after the 2000, 2001, and 2003 seasons featured games between teams that were not 1-2 in the AP poll. After the 2000 season, AP #1 Oklahoma defeated AP #3 Florida State; after the 2001 season, AP #1 Miami defeated AP #4 Nebraska; and after the 2003 season, AP #2 LSU defeated AP #3 Oklahoma.
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Here is the list of how those games have gone, for each team that's participated in more than 1 game between AP #1 and AP #2.
Team..........record....win-%
Army...........3-0-1... .875
Ohio State.....4-1..... .800
Texas..........4-1..... .800
Notre Dame.....5-2-2... .667
Alabama........2-1..... .667
Penn State.....2-1..... .667
Nebraska.......3-2..... .600
Florida State..3-3..... .500
Miami..........3-3..... .500
USC............3-3..... .500
Florida........1-2..... .333
Oklahoma.......1-6..... .143
Navy...........0-3..... .000
Michigan.......0-4..... .000
Teams that are 1-0: Iowa, Purdue, Tennessee
Teams that are 0-1: Arkansas, Georgia, Iowa Pre-flight, Virginia Tech, Wisconsin
Team with only a tie: Michigan State
Team..........record....win-%
Army...........3-0-1... .875
Ohio State.....4-1..... .800
Texas..........4-1..... .800
Notre Dame.....5-2-2... .667
Alabama........2-1..... .667
Penn State.....2-1..... .667
Nebraska.......3-2..... .600
Florida State..3-3..... .500
Miami..........3-3..... .500
USC............3-3..... .500
Florida........1-2..... .333
Oklahoma.......1-6..... .143
Navy...........0-3..... .000
Michigan.......0-4..... .000
Teams that are 1-0: Iowa, Purdue, Tennessee
Teams that are 0-1: Arkansas, Georgia, Iowa Pre-flight, Virginia Tech, Wisconsin
Team with only a tie: Michigan State
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